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The finals format has something very wrong with it. Something very wrong with where games are played. And no, it’s not about the grand…
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Why everyone got it wrong about Rugby Australia and Israel Folau
Happens all the time. Melbourne played both St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs at Docklands as home games a few years back.
Victorian based teams have a home ground but each and every team has to sometimes play home games at grounds in Victoria that are not actually their home ground. Sometimes they have to play opponents who actually play at that ground too.
Its the nature of the comp when there is a city with half the teams and only 2 grounds to play at.
Geelong get as much home ground advantage at Kardinia as interstate teams do at their home ground. They also get the advantage that they don’t actually have to jump on a plane or stay in hotels every second week.
They get double the advantages that’s every other club get. Yet they continuously harp on about having to play some finals in a ground they used to like playing at – and actually chose to play at…. yes Geelong actually requested to have home games against clubs like Hawthorn and Collingwood at the MCG, as much as they try to pretend they never have.
The decade that was: Geelong Cats
I think the problem was that Gold Coast put all their eggs in the Ablett basket. It seems they thought that if they got the best player, then they’d be set.
But then they forgot to actually teach the kids to play for themselves. You could see it in the early seasons, where everyone was just looking for Gary to give the ball to. When he didn’t play, they were lost.
Letting Ablett go back to Geelong is probably one of the best things they could do.
The decade that was: Gold Coast Suns
They really should have won at least one more flag this decade. The sole flag in 2011 suggests that maybe they’re not as good as they appear. With a lot of their core players getting older (this has to be Ablett’s last year surely, and Selwood won’t have much longer) there is probably only a few years left to stand up and claim the flag with this team.
The decade that was: Geelong Cats
Personally, I’d rate their capitulation in the 2013 GF as one of their worst losses.
I’d also have selected Pav as the captain over Fyfe.
The decade that was: Fremantle Dockers
I think the Pies are well placed, they will be kicking themselves they let themselves finish another year with a loss of less than a goal.
They have a good core group of players and I think they are still dangerous. I would be surprised if they go through the next 10 years and don’t win a flag.
As much as people like to bag him, Eddie Macguire clearly knows what he’s doing.
The decade that was: Collingwood
These are a really well done series of articles Josh.
I think a lot of the problems of Carlton early on in the decade is that they thought they were closer than they actually were. They thought they needed one last piece, and thought that Malthouse would be that missing piece. As we all know now, a good coach alone does not help. There were quite a few more pieces that were needed, and the Malthouse masterstroke will be remembered for setting them back 5 years. They are only now recovering from that ill-fated decision.
The decade that was: Carlton
Todd Goldstein gets picked over Max Gawn?
Todd Goldstein and Ben Cunnington get picked as captain over Jack Viney?
Enough already.
When the Kangaroos met the Demons: Combining Melbourne and North Melbourne
Way to generalise there buddy.
I am a Melbourne supporter, but I am not a blue blood, a plutocrat, a right winger, a blow hard, an abandoner or a skiier.
When the Kangaroos met the Demons: Combining Melbourne and North Melbourne
Whately sounds good but doesn’t really have any insight.
I find that those who were in the locker room, if they actually have any “insight” they have real difficulty actually communicating it.
Their insight seems to consist mostly of “buddy-buddy back in my day” anecdotes.
AFL media axe falls on diversity, individuality and quality
I have to agree with you James.
Neroli Meadows was one of the better presenters on Fox, all of which are better than any on Seven.
I can’t stand the old boys club mentality that so many ex footballers exude.
I find the fact they didn’t play actually makes them better to listen to, because they are just that bit detached, and a little bit more objective than the players who showered naked with those they’re now commenting on.
AFL media axe falls on diversity, individuality and quality
Sure. We’ll create a team called Victoria and one called Port Phillip (because we can’t call it Melbourne).
Then the other clubs can go to the VFL.
Watch then as the AFL folds within a decade due to lack of support, sponsors and TV rights.
Without the Victorian clubs, there is no AFL.
Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture
The funny thing wit that is that they need to sell games because they don’t get any decent home games.
Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture
Vic-based sides have to come up with innovative ideas like travelling to other places to assert any type of home ground advantage.
Believe me, I’d rather play a Vic based side in Alice Springs than a SA or WA side which probably receive more of the support, but it seems that the AFL don’t do this. We always get Port or Freo or WCE or Adelaide in the NT. So much that I can’t remember the last time we played WCE or Adelaide at the MCG. That completely neutralised any advantage we would gain by creating ‘our home’ away from home.
Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture
Let’s create another 6 teams in each of Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney then.
Either that or you advocate reducing the number of teams in Melbourne down to 2.
There are 9 clubs in one city. Deal with it.
Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture
Exactly Peter.
For every advantage there are equal disadvantages. It means that when Melbourne play Richmond neither team has a home ground advantage in either a home game or away game.
When Melbourne play West Coast every year in Perth, there is clearly an advantage to West Coast.
I can’t remember the last time Melbourne played West Coast at the MCG – that game is always fixtured for Perth. West Coast have had a major advantage playing a low-ranked team every single year at home for the best part of this decade. More advantage than Richmond got for playing Melbourne at the MCG.
Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture
I think the Lions part in the name it gives away.
Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture
And of course, like every year, the Dees get away games against Geelong, Essendon, Hawthorn and West Coast again, double up against interstate teams and St Kilda again and travel to Hobart for the last round again.
I thought the fixture was supposed to work out evenly over several years – seems they just pick up last years one and rehash it.
Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture
Exactly. You don’t hear Carlton, Essendon, St Kilda, North and the Bulldogs whinging that they don’t play finals at their home ground in Docklands. They have to play at the MCG too like every other Victorian team.
It seems Geelong just want to be treated special.
Geelong is officially the best team of the decade
So your conclusion that Geelong is the best was based solely on the first stat of their winning percentage of all games. Meaning most of the article disecting other stats was all irrelevant in the end.
Using all those stats together, it seems to indicate Hawthorn would still come out on top.
Geelong is officially the best team of the decade
Actually the law. There can only be one union per industry sector. The AFLW and the AFL are the same industry. The designated union is the ALFPA.
AFL one step closer to AFLW collective bargaining deal
If you’ve ever bargained in an enterprise agreement process, you’ll know there is a lot more to it than the overall % reported by most media outlets. The entire agreement is up for negotiation and covers all employment conditions.
If you want the details, you’ll need to sign on as a bargaining representative. Of course to do that you’d need to be appointed by a party to the agreement.
AFL one step closer to AFLW collective bargaining deal
Personally, I think Melbourne missed Jetta the most out of all of them.
Ten under 10: Ten players in for a bounce-back in 2020
I know right.
And in 2009, the GF should have been played at St Kilda’s home ground of Marvel Stadium rather than at the MCG.
They would have won that year had they had the chance to play inside. Geelong had more exprience in the open elements and it was unfair to the top finishing team to have to play outside.
Ten under 10: Ten players in for a bounce-back in 2020
A couple of points:
But the unspoken, ignored injustice of a Victoria-centric landscape of the AFL goes unmentioned. You’re obviously new around here! It goes mentioned every week, every final, every year.
Financially, the more your fans can attend games in your home city, the better. It’s not hard to see why clubs with 16 or more home-city games each season can attract supporters to every game. but if that’s the case, why is West Coast the most financially secure club? Why does West Coast have more members than they can fit in the stadium and are the only club with a waiting list for seats?
it starts by recognising firstly that the inequality is real and that the AFL is not simply a Victoria-centric game. With 10 of 18 teams in the competition in Victoria, by definition, it actually is a Victorian-centric game. That is just the reality.
I understand that most Victorians simply do not care. It’s not that we don’t care, we just recognise that for all the advantages that Vic teams have, non-Vic teams have their own significant advantages, like a true and real home ground advantage that means they – on average – win more games at home and have a better chance of making the finals based on their home record.
While the reality is there are 10 teams from 18 in the one state, there’s little anyone can do. When St Kilda plays the Western Bulldogs, they are both playing at their home ground. Of course that means the ground is more or less a netural venue.
The AFL fixture is biased towards Victorian clubs