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Amazing! Australia loses a couple of Tests in India and suddenly, we are being told that they aren’t worthy to be in the same breath as legends like Dennis Lillee and Greg Chappell among others.

Yes, the same players who never played in India! Yes there was WSC at the time but there were a few tours of Pakistan and Lillee went on one and did poorly and avoided the next one. Greg C did better on his one tour and also avoided the next one.

Reality is if these heroes would have probably avoided touring India if given half the chance only to wait until the home series when they could fill their boots.

And yes, lets not forget how they pumped up their stats at home vs Pakistan knowing that they had no intention of playing the next series vs WI.

Oh yes, they were so much better behaved, weren’t they?

To be fair, they haven’t said anything like this about the current players..just some of their shortsighted fans.

On the nose: Are Australia’s male cricketers the nation’s most unappealing national team?

It’s very different when you’re a kid…you don’t look with reverence at anyone younger than you.

On the nose: Are Australia’s male cricketers the nation’s most unappealing national team?

A bit of context here…they were at a low when Langer took over because their 2 best batters were banned. They still had an outstanding bowling attack.

They then proceeded to lose away in Pak and at home to India in 2018-19 before easily winning at home vs SL.

Their best 2 batters come back from suspension and then they draw a series in England who were missing their all-time great bowler…some good results at home follow until another home defeat vs India before thrashing England at home.

From what I see, Langer did good PR work but the main impetus for the improved performances were Smith and Warner coming back.

'Soft, reckless, way over the edge': Greats savage sweep-happy Aussies' disaster, Warner's unlucky break - Talking Points

A raging success? Losing 2 home series to India in 3 years qualifies as a raging success?

'Soft, reckless, way over the edge': Greats savage sweep-happy Aussies' disaster, Warner's unlucky break - Talking Points

Don’t understand the talk about DRS… 3 reviews and retaining on umpire’s calls seem a good idea.
I do agree that players should remain in their positions for not out reviews.

Re:Delhi smog; yes, matches should be banned until things improve. Feel sad for the spectators

Head's blitz may mean Warner's Test career over, Aussies fail DRS review, Delhi should lose host rights over smog - Talking Points

They haven’t looked anywhere and against anyone for 3 years!

Head's blitz may mean Warner's Test career over, Aussies fail DRS review, Delhi should lose host rights over smog - Talking Points

I’ve got to say but I think that this game is in the balance and with the weaknesses of the Indian top order, Aussies might even be slightly ahead.

Looking like an interesting game and I don’t get the negativity.

Second Test day 1 lessons: Are things really as bad as they seem?

And the players from the 1960s and early ’70s would have loved the relatively bigger pay the players of the ’80s and ’90s got.

Google Allan Border and Neil Harvey to see how AB used to react to ex-players’s criticisms.

'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles

I forgot about the bat..especially the way he behaved with the umpires and just threw the bat away.

'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles

Did he really do that?

'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles

BTW, if we want to talk about bad behavior then I think the person who really started it on a broad scale and gets almost no attention is Dennis Lillee. He was a fantastic bowler and charismatic personality and appears to be a good sort off the pitch but his behavior especially in the immediate WSC days was downright disgraceful at times.

This happened when channel 9 had the rights and his behavior was broadcast all over the nation and contributed to the toxicity which followed as not only was it never punished but it was actively defended and even laughed off on many occasions.

I have never seen a player kick another player on the pitch but Lillee did it.

I have never seen a player throw up his hands at his captain and walk away on the field but Lillee did it.

I have not seen a player since give numerous interviews and write books complaining about his captain and teammates while still playing and yet Lillee did it.

And this is what we saw…God knows what we didn’t see. Fast bowlers are a strange breed but he influenced a generation of poorly behaved Aussie bowlers including Lawson, Hughes, McDermott, McGrath and Warne…Warne was punished severely after some shocking behavior on his first tour to SA and pulled his head in.

And I’m not even talking about the lesser known bowlers like Simon Davis and others who could barely bowl but their main aim was to show how they could mix it with the abuse.

Let’s put the blame where it belongs.

'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles

Interesting to read the comments and also revealing how stories and myths have spread over the years.

Firstly, I don’t think that Smith was being friendly to the opposition but just being himself. If I had to theorize, I have read a lot about how Smith approaches a net session with the same intensity of being out in the middle and it wouldn’t surprise me if he instinctively thought he was having a net and behaved accordingly. No big deal.

Border was just frustrated and probably regrets what he said. Ironically he was far more friendly to the English in 1985 and 1986-87 when Aussies were getting thrashed. There were pics of him laughing and walking off arm in arm with Gower at the end of the day with England 1/300. It wasn’t a secret that he had more in common with his opponents than his younger teammates…he changed his behavior by 1989 but it was mostly harmless stuff in both instances.

'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles

Paine lost 2 home series to India and threw away the chance to win a series in England…he panicked when under pressure.

'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles

First of all, it wasn’t Waugh who was captain when they beat WI in 1995! It was Taylor.

'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles

Early days I know but it looks like Nathan Lyon is back to his usual self vs India.

Talking Points: Murphy seals remarkable debut feat after close miss, Sharma's immense ton, Renshaw sent for scans

Hello? What is this? The last century? Almost every point you’ve made is incorrect…India has won the last 2 series in Australia which means that they must be doing something right against the pacers and their spinners must be ok.

If you’ve watched India bat over the last 10 years, you will have noticed them struggling more and more against spin bowling.

“Not culturally comfortable with aggression?” Ancient stereotype…guess you haven’t watched Kohli on the field? Or Jadeja? Or Siraj? Or Harbhajan? Or Ganguly?

'Bowled an absolute buffet': Hayden slams 'rubbish' Cummins as Rohit, Jadeja take Aussies to the cleaners

India are going to really miss his batting. I hope he comes back one day.

'Bowled an absolute buffet': Hayden slams 'rubbish' Cummins as Rohit, Jadeja take Aussies to the cleaners

Warne broke his thumb before the last Test on a Bunsen burner…surely would have done well…or maybe not

'Bowled an absolute buffet': Hayden slams 'rubbish' Cummins as Rohit, Jadeja take Aussies to the cleaners

I think Shami, Siraj and Umesh are superb at home…they just know what the correct length is to bowl at home and are able to reverse it after a while.

'Bowled an absolute buffet': Hayden slams 'rubbish' Cummins as Rohit, Jadeja take Aussies to the cleaners

Thats the way he’s been playing for a while now…the odd good innings mixed with a lot of nothing innings.

'Bowled an absolute buffet': Hayden slams 'rubbish' Cummins as Rohit, Jadeja take Aussies to the cleaners

When SA won in 2000, they had a superb bowling attack but I recall that Nicky Boje was there to hold up an end.

Warne swallowed his pride and did the same thing superbly in 2004.

'Bowled an absolute buffet': Hayden slams 'rubbish' Cummins as Rohit, Jadeja take Aussies to the cleaners

I thought Murphy actually bowled well.

'Bowled an absolute buffet': Hayden slams 'rubbish' Cummins as Rohit, Jadeja take Aussies to the cleaners

If it’s a raging turner, India should be more wary of Travis Head’s bowling!

Kohli a weak link? Dismal century drought puts pressure on Virat as Aussie nemesis circles

Well only another couple of days and we’ll get to judge?.can’t wait!

No Pant, Iyer or Bumrah but India have plenty of depth as Aussies miss pace duo for Border-Gavaskar Trophy

Actually Rohit didn’t play that match due to covid and it was Bumrah who was captain. I was there on day 4 and it was dreadful.

Kohli a weak link? Dismal century drought puts pressure on Virat as Aussie nemesis circles

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