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Great work mate.

I don’t particularly agree with it but kudos to you for putting it out there.
I’ve seen so many ideas now, conferences, tiers, moving teams, bringing back the Bears, and one particularly bright fellow suggested just starting from scratch.

The problem is that none of them will really work. The time for big changes was in 99-2000 just after the war, that was the time to start again. Instead we have kept what we had and moved forward. Relegation suits top clubs, and yes it would be fun to see the Jets and the Bears come back into the main comp for a couple of seasons, but the bottom clubs will always struggle. Would you, as a manager for Bundaberg Rum for example, want to put your resources behind the Bears if they made the top grade? (The marketing sells itself). What if they are relegated again straight away after one season? Do you keep supporting them even though you are now with a second tier team that gets little to no air time? When that money gets taken away how does that club keep its quality players?

Which is the second point. If you are Cameron Smith and the Storm get relegated (one can only dream) do you still have to honour your contract and keep playing for them in the lower tier or can you break it and go to another club? If he stays loyal does that mean he is no longer in contention for a Kangaroo or Maroon jersey? If he moves then what do the Storm do to fill that gap and try and get back to the top tier. Then if they make it, how do they attract big name players into the fold who can’t be certain they will still be there in a year or two.

All ideas are good on paper. The best idea is to leave the comp alone and expand with new teams only if they can be supported and stay alive by themselves.

The NRL needs promotion and relegation

Great to see you managed to fit the Raiders into the top chances.

Let’s just overlook the whole not played in a grand final since 1994 thing.

One round gone and the 2019 premiers and wooden spooners are clear

Good point Fred. Kind of makes you want to just leave things alone doesn’t it 🙂

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Cheers Paul

You know this is something I was thinking back when the war finished and everyone was trying to rebadge themselves as the Sydney something or others in order to stay in the comp.
I would like to see a team in Tamworth, Dubbo and Wagga but sadly don’t think it will ever happen. Nobody really supports the bush.
We all know NSW stands for Newcastle Sydney Wollongong.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Not to get sidetracked but that brings up another interesting discussion.

Let’s say Valleys were given a license into the NRL, would they be able to bring that history with them? Of course not because the NRL is the old NSWRL with a couple of letters taken out. We laud the history of the Rabbits and Dragons, and make fun of Cronulla and now the Eels, but we let them bring that history into what should have been a new competition. Why do the Rabbits and Roosters get to claim they have been there since foundation when the Tigers, a forced merger of two foundation clubs, don’t.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

If he is fat I am in a lot of trouble.

'It does get you down': Greg Inglis responds to being 'fat-shamed'

I like where your heads at mate.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Oh I don’t know, they have everything needed to support a NRL team, except fans of course.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Careful TB

If you start to make too much sense you may find yourself banned for a while.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

That’s a bit harsh mate.

Peter Beattie has never had an idea.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Shhhh, don’t mention the war. I did it once and think I got away with it.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Too true.

Soccer had to change to remove the ethnic influence in the clubs, and the issues that brought. While they are doing pretty well, they are not exactly setting the world on fire either.

But then again soccer has always been a fringe sport in Australia. Heck, when I was a kid it was the sport you had to play if your mum wouldn’t sign the permission slip to play real footy.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Tell that to the Bears, Magpies, Tigers, Jets and almost Bunnies and Dragons.

This NRL leadership is quite happy to ignore history.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

North West Corridor Numbats, see we are coming up with names already. Next step is picking out colours and making sure we change them every year to keep the fans on their toes.

I’m with you, as stated this is not my preferred option, or one that I would be very happy about should it occur. It’s just another direction that things could go. Rather than annoy only a few clubs fans this way you could put everyone offside. It keeps things nice and even.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Ahoy Dutski

Thanks for chipping in, and I too love the water analogy. I must try and work that into my next half baked crazy idea.

As for season length, I admire your enthusiasm. Year round curling could be quite a thing, especially if we limited them to only 4 broom changes per season. A bit like formula one engines. For the league however I really think shortening the season works but only if there is a robust international season to follow. League doesn’t have that, so the length is fine for what we have to work with.

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Good morning.

Agreed, completely. I never said I wanted this to happen, in fact the last four paragraphs show my true feelings on the matter, and what I think would happen.

Just leave the comp alone and enjoy it for what it is.

Mind you the Perth Quokkas has a nice ring to it………

Expansion? Moving teams? Nah let's do it a different way

Yep and look how that turned out.

I’m not saying it’s a good idea by the way, or my favourite plan of attack, but it’s the only way you can try and expand across the country without moving teams and putting everyones nose out of joint.

Rugby league expansion back on the agenda in both hemispheres

Not as terrible as pulling teams out of Sydney and flinging them around the country willy nilly.

Rugby league expansion back on the agenda in both hemispheres

You mean the tribalism of clubs like the Broncos and Knights (founded 1988), or the Storm (founded 1999). Nobody supports them right? Yeah new clubs are stupid.

Rugby league expansion back on the agenda in both hemispheres

The only way you are going to get a truly national competition is to start again.

Create a brand new league, all new teams and placed around the country. 4 in NSW, 4 in QLD, 2 in NZ, 2 in Victoria, 1 in ACT,WA,SA,TAS. No existing clubs, everything starts new.

All existing clubs can play in the NSWRL and QLDRL cups respectively. Put a bit more money into those comps as well, some TV time and use them to provide the talent. The Intrust cup does this really well for QLD.

Expand into Tasmania because the AFL doesn’t want to so lets steal some of their territory for a change.

Then we have a truly national 16 team comp. Everyone plays each other once, finals and grand finals conclude. After that pick a national team and actually play some international footy, and make it the showpiece, not Origin which should be relegated to a cup between the winner of the NSWRL and QLDRL comps. How about a Aust v NZ cup to rival the Bledisloe, a Lions tour or an Ashes tour. Right now RL is way too insular for its own good and international footy seems to be a distant second to the main comp.

Will never happen, but it’s the only clean way I can see to get the comp moving in the right direction.

Rugby league expansion back on the agenda in both hemispheres

If you think the E’s are hard I can’t wait to see how the Q team lines up.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter E

Not at all, never be afraid to go off half cocked.

Knights kick their campaign off in style with thrilling win over Sharks

I know right?

The Broncos are definitely consistent, at least in my book. 17 of 19 final series appearances is something teams like the Titans could only dream of.

Manly were solidly entrenched in the top 4 for the best part of 10 years with two premierships in that period which was enough to drag them up from the cellar and put them into the top 4, however there are only 2 points separating the Sea Eagles, Bulldogs and Dragons so they change spots years about at the moment. I am expecting the see them and the Dogs drift back into the larger pack.

As for the Bunnies, they were dead last by a long way up until 2012 so they have really only had 7 good results to lift them. The one I find most surprising is Wests, with one Premiership and no spoons you would think that they would be a lot higher.

A serious - but not so serious - look at the last 19 seasons

As a New South Welshman and Sharks fan I thank you for taking it in the right spirit.

A serious - but not so serious - look at the last 19 seasons

Thanks mate.

Yes the Bunnies had a shocking run up until the start of the 2012 season with one finals appearance and 3 spoons. Just goes to show what an injection of Burgess brothers can do for a club.

A serious - but not so serious - look at the last 19 seasons