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Nth Qlder but Bronco to the bone.

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Mate you’ve glossed over many points and the first few sentences are speculative opinion only. Thurston signed his extension back in May ’17, they weren’t to know he would do his shoulder injury in July. However, it is more than fair to say they would have finished higher on the table than just scrapping into the 8 – on the back of Saints loss.

You and I have had this argument all year and I have been pointing the finger at Green all year. As I have consistently said some players, their entire backline, were dismal yet would be dropped until the horse had bolted. Hess was far better coming off the bench in tries, RM, TB, PCM… all in 20 less mins per game. Cooper was far less effective and far more errors. Playing Martin where he had better players consistently. That’s all coaching decisions and I’ve made that point all year. However, your KM complaint is new. Yes he missed tackles, so you may as well sack Maloney, Hunt, Brookes and Townsend as they missed the same and significantly more.

JT lead your team to their first premiership. He’s been top 3 players in the NRL for a decade and the one player the whole team has been built around and a major part of them making the finals every year since 2010. Yet, it seems because they made the GF in ’17, again long after they resigned him, you would cast him out based on that. Forget the fact he lead the stats this year and 1 & 2 in 2016 before resigning and he lead the Cowboys to 4th, 3rd and 5th table finishes (in respective years) in that time.

Cowboys to gamble on off the cuff attack

You’re not seriously comparing Martin to JT? You’re being a bit generous with “much younger” rep debut with 1 game off the bench for NZ at 21yo, JT was 22 when he debuted for Qld. By the equivalent age (23), JT has been to two GFs winning one, played 6 origins, 4 tests for Aust, Dally M #7, RLPA#7 and Dally M winner.

In a year (’18) where the Cowboys playmakers were injured or out of form, Martin was still dead wood. Remind me of 1 time the team had to wait for JT to get back onside so they could take a kick for touch? He was garbage in the halves, FB and hooker role this year.

Cowboys to gamble on off the cuff attack

I agree Gallen is a hypocrite but gee you’ve taken some cheap shots there. ‘Fifita, Gallen and Greenberg are tools and Lewis is a legend’ is quite easy mate. I wish Val all the best too but it’s a far greater task then you’ve made out.

Val Holmes' NFL motivations

I get he have an agenda against him but you’re wrong. The greatest issue this year was not JT, it was Green and the decisions he made around the team.

Cowboys to gamble on off the cuff attack

Green had the best ‘eyes up’ players since Cliffy Lyons and now opted for structure. Now he has a rookie and a running 5/8 in Morgan and wants ad-lib play, why, because he has Barba? I hope Benny goes well for them but I don’t think I’ll see his name leading the LBA and TA column at the end of 2019.

Cowboys to gamble on off the cuff attack

You look at that line up who went there and who they’ve been coached by. Considering Brown has no success at NRL level, if he had a little humility he would be picking the brains of these older guys about the best attributes Bennett, Green, Flannagan and Bellamy bought to their squads and integrate them into his regime.

Brown needs to be black and white about Newcastle's finals prospects

Gotta love the enthusiasm of a Knights fan. After 15 wins under Brown and you can compile a top 5. As Paul says above, if they can’t find close to that 15 wins for the ’19 season, the next recruitment drive will be for a coach. Pointing back to 2014 as an excuse was too long ago 2 years ago.

Top five Knights performances under Nathan Brown

So you would have to assume the NRL are picking up the majority of this $150k. Surely if the Raiders have a contract like this, the NRL scheduling has to take this into account. However, quite short sighted by the ACT government in not allowing a game 2 hours down the road. It’s an investment in the Raiders brand and the gate takings, which would most likely sell out, could compensate a fair portion of this.

Raiders fined $150,000 over Wagga match

That’s terrible recruitment strategy. Lichaa has had opportunity under 2 coaches now and didn’t perform up to standard (IMO). He is quite strong in defense so unless the idea is to have JMK as the primary utility after the first 25mins for some attacking options… But still, losing Woolford and Cleeland is massive for their depth.

Cooked Cook, McInnes Masterchef: Why Cook’s Origin jersey should be given to crafty Cameron

At the same age?

Who would you rather: Latrell Mitchell or Joseph Manu?

Simply to early to choose in this one. It’s scary to think Mitchell is just starting to realise his power and Manu hasn’t hit that yet. If you picked them today, it has to be Mitchell. Ask again in 3 years.

Who would you rather: Latrell Mitchell or Joseph Manu?

I agree that up until Origin it was a close run race but I would argue Cook maintained better form throughout the season. The PTB crackdown and subsequent backflip had an effect on both and Cam went back into his shell where Cook, now more intensely marked, picked his runs and has a lightening quick first couple of steps to beat the markers that Cam doesn’t have. Service I would rate on par. Further I don’t believe Bennett’s reign will inhibit Cook as the old coach is best known for letting players maximise their skill set and after watching Cook’s star rise in 2018, I doubt he will restrain him – if he sees it go for it. Like anything halves related though, it is really dependent on the forwards doing their job. Souths were able to maintain the rage for a lot longer than Mary’s men so Cook was able to shine.

Cooked Cook, McInnes Masterchef: Why Cook’s Origin jersey should be given to crafty Cameron

haha, love it JB.

Who would you rather: Andrew Fifita or David Klemmer?

I believe that is one of Bennett’s greatest risks. Everyone remembers Souths from this year and anything less than that will be viewed as a failure. By the time is contract is done they will have lost all the Burgi, Sutton and probably Inglis. Then it will be a perceived Newcastle situation again.

Wayne Bennett cracks jokes during his first Rabbitohs press conference

Some really good arguments on both sides, especially the one about the specific roles they play in their respective teams. As a stand alone option I’d take Klemmer, for every reason he is not Fifita. For mine the No 1 job of a prop is to get the meters followed by a quick PTB and then an offload. Their role is to set the platform and an offload on T2-T3, while handy, is a risk I’d prefer they didn’t take unless absolutely on and in good field position. Klemmer doesn’t have the mistakes, penalties or temperament of Fifita. Fifita does lead in tackle busts but if they come from a sideways/stop & prop runs the benefit is largely reduced. The last benefit to Klemmer is his age (and this has nothing to do with being old), Klem is about to turn 25 where Fifita is turning 30, therefore , Klemmer is still coming into his best years where ball-playing and other skills will come further into his game. Fifita is a game breaker but he is as good as he is ever going to be and we haven’t seen the best of Klemmer yet.

Who would you rather: Andrew Fifita or David Klemmer?

TBH I hadn’t heard of Johns (since his playing days) before this coaching thing came up. Brick though, as a new found poli, he has to put his name on everything and siding with constituent agreement is his way. Remember when he supported the Qld team? Credibility gone on both sides.

All any coach has to do is win to gain respect. If they keep carrying on because ‘it’s not Kevvie’, it’s to their own detriment. Seibold has got good cattle and all the best facilities available so now it’s up to him and the rest don’t matter.

Seibold hopes to win over Broncos greats

Nice piece Thomas. Some amazing stories there.

Doubling up: The elite club that Valentine Holmes endeavours to join

Ever been to a pro netball game? Lucky to get a seat and the noise is insane.

My 2019 sporting bucket list

Because he’s not the future coach for them. They made that very clear many months ago. They did table a 5yr club role but he didn’t want to take it. No one is bigger than the club but at least they had good options…

'Benny' did the Broncos board off the break

Yes, no information. You have no idea how many times he’s called and tried to organise a meeting. Bennett never answered or returned his call. You’re talking about two guys with a 40yr history together. No one wants to sack a bloke via voicemail but what’s the option B if one party won’t get in touch? You’ve just taken pieces of everything you’ve read and put this BS rant together. Bennett was given every opportunity to leave amicably but didn’t. He held an unsanctioned press conference then refused to talk to the board thereafter. He knew it was coming and made them do the dirty work. You couldn’t stand Bennett before but now he’s your coach – everyone else is the dribbler.

I like your impression of ‘fair go’. If the club wants you gone, that’s a fair go. If you leave – disloyal.

Broncos sack Bennett, sign Seibold

That’s a hell of a rant based on no information. BTW, Michael McGuire, Jason Taylor called wondering what you were saying about loyalty?

Broncos sack Bennett, sign Seibold

That’s a fair comment Don. We can speculate on whether he did/didn’t contact Souths players but I doubt the board would want to drag him into court (out of legacy respect) nor would Wayne want to go down that path if there is any shred of evidence. Come to an amicable payout and let it go. Wayne doesn’t need the money and the Broncos are short of a dollar to fight if need be.

'Benny' did the Broncos board off the break

By every measure he is better than both back-ended Des and Uncle Nic’s Robinson and with 500 more games his stats are still better. Since both the Storm and Cowboys came into the comp they have 4 premierships between them, Bennett has the same over 2 different clubs.

'Benny' did the Broncos board off the break

Good list Matt and as a sports fan those events would be crackers to attend live. Love golf, play poorly, I can’t watch it on TV but have been to a few of the big events and followed a few of the greats around for a great day. Never watched a test at the SCG – one day (am I on my Pat Malone in liking Kohli?). Superbowl, again hard to watch on TV but would be a great atmosphere if there. Lords – definitely. Been to plenty of origins and loved all but 1 (G2 2014, damn you DCE, make a tackle!) so I hope the WA faithful fill the joint.

My 2019 sporting bucket list

He was called many times but didn’t pick up the phone. Don’t know over what period but it had to come to a head yesterday because training starts today. I have the utmost respect for Bennett, he knew this was coming but refused to take/return a call and that’s just weak.

Broncos sack Bennett, sign Seibold