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Emcie

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My man, you’ve been saying this every week for about two months

ANALYSIS: Magic Johnson strikes again in Golden Point - but Ricky rages over Bunker call

“I also really respect the commitment shown by the NRLW players in supporting their male counterparts” – they’re also fighting for their own rights too
To be fair, the Fifa Womens World Cup is probably going to bring more public attention to women’s sport than the NRLW season launch would. I’ve been watching the NRL since I was a kid and I couldn’t tell you a single thing about any official season launch. If the NRLW play it right it could be used as a springboard for their own promotion.
The public still has plenty of access to players, far more then there was when I was younger, it’s just not through official channels at the moment

NRLW kick-off becomes collateral damage as CBA dispute takes shine off what's supposed to be biggest season yet

“Straight from the horses mouth” 😛

Best recruits of 2023: Retention decisions just as important when it comes to factors that make or break a team’s title hopes

…thats just you saying it…

Best recruits of 2023: Retention decisions just as important when it comes to factors that make or break a team’s title hopes

Lower level/grade/division/bracket/classification, pick whichever one takes your fancy.
I don’t understand why you find it necessary to try mock anyone who disagrees with you by misconstruing the most benign statements. I’ve been on this site since 2014, yeah there’s been an article or two on tribalism. Its hardly an obscure topic on a sports forum, yet your interpretation would fly in the face of any I’ve seen promoted before.

You haven’t argued the merits at all. You justified your original comment by saying Rellum was “by definition” wrong, and now you’ve already walked that definition back to “my interpretation”. What point am I supposed to be arguing? All I did was try and clarify what “we get behind our teams, all of them” meant, only to be met with four multi-paragraph responses of negligible substance that boil down to “this is my truth and you’re both dumb”. I mean come on mate, your grand, irrefutable defence is arguing your interpretations of what the specific definitions of an anthropological term metaphorically applied to supporting a sports team should be.
I’m not interested in pursuing any discussion with someone willing to waste that much time to accomplish so little. Not without an independent mediator anyway. So no, I’m not going to keep a dead comment section on life support just to play charades with you. I’m sorry if that bothers you, but seriously, who gets hung up on someone not replying in a comment section a month ago…

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

Oh I see, I wasn’t counting the US game. Had him as 13 from 24

Who are the greatest Origin coaches?

It was a separate issue? The comment you jumped in to pull Rellum up on was in direct response to to Brett talking about Logan and Ipswich combining. You took the words in a comment specifically about comparing tribalism within Brisbane and Sydney club comps out of context and attached your usual complaints about “Queensland-exceptionalism”. Queensland/Origin hadn’t even been mentioned at that point. I’m not sure it’s me reframing things here…
You seem to have a very narrow definition of tribalism in sport. I’ve read a lot of articles on whether or not tribalism in sport is healthy at international, domestic or local levels, but I’ve never seen someone try and argue that it cannot exist at all if supporters follow different teams at a lower level. I doubt that would hold up in any discussion on the matter

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

You’re conflating two separate comments. Brett first compared rivalries in Sydney to State of Origin, Rellum said they’re not in the same class. Tribalism can exist on multiple levels. In a separate comment Rellum said that “we get behind all our teams, it’s far more tribal” in a thread where he’s arguing that Logan wouldn’t support a joint team with Ipswich. You couldn’t have read that more wrong if you tried.

You jumped into a thread 13 comments deep by reading something the wrong way and belittled his English skills. I “chimed in” to clarify what Rellum said, in a thread I was already partaking in. Your low opinion of me aside, I didn’t see any reason why I’d be unqualified to comment.

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

On field ref’s should be replaced by drones with a whistle. All calls are made by the bunker. No one gets overruled, problem solved

Round 20 Talking Points: Resting Origin stars a huge gamble as Roosters lose touch of top eight

What specific flaw are you referring to?
Can’t see what insults you’re referring to, but suggesting it’s arragance to say the NRL is essentially the NSWRL doesn’t seem like a stretch. “You don’t talk good” doesn’t exactly refute the specifics of the argument.
I thought this was a public internet forum, didn’t realise I needed permission to comment. I didn’t get a notification you replied to the other comment, but I have now. During the Dragons saga I was out the back of Longreach and completely reliant on the availability of free WiFi. Had I known I was on call I could have organised something more reliable. But I seem to recall saying we should agree to disagree and leave it at that. The fact that you seem to judge an opinions validity on the basis of the sentence structure and grammar used to express it instead of the intended meaning, as well as an impressive knack for only interpreting things in a way that benefits your own preconceptions, may have played a part in that.

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

The lions weren’t transplanted, they were a merger between the existing bears and Fitzroy. It’s not quite the same scenario

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

Saying the NRL is just a continuation of the NSWRL is simplifying it a bit. The ARL taking over the Winfield Cup had more to do with competing against the national Superleague proposal than elevating the NSWRL. Prior to the mid 80s NSWRL and QRL competitions were solely state based affairs.
National rugby league in Australia was jointly operated by the NSWRL and QRL from its beginning, before officially setting up the ARL together. And yet it’s only very recently that QRL statistics have even been incorporated into historical players profiles by the ARL. For the longest time looking up official Wally Lewis stats would show a four year professional career starting in ’88. So I would say probably more recognition then being mostly ignored for the majority of the NRLs existence. The BRL may have been a shell of its former self by the 90s but it did take part in establishing League in Australia and was still the premier competition in the state for the majority of its existence. It was also clearly producing players of a high enough calibre for richer Sydney clubs to pursue ahead of local players

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

Most Australians are offended by 360, it’s practically their business model.
Broncos were battered relentlessly in the media for years before Kevvie (former newscorp employee) got the coaching gig. It’s all swings and roundabouts mate

Round 20 Talking Points: Resting Origin stars a huge gamble as Roosters lose touch of top eight

If you’re going to demean someone and call them uneducated at least pick a comment you aren’t taking completely out of context. Rellum is clearly saying that all the clubs are supported (not just the trendy ones) as opposed to saying everyone supports every club.
Rellum speaks very well for someone from Logan, and some basic comprehension skills on your part wouldn’t have gone astray

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

Sometimes it less about what the player does and more what that allows others to do. I reckon Burton benefits more from his inclusion then the Titans did. Sextons just gotta do that consistently now

Round 20 Talking Points: Resting Origin stars a huge gamble as Roosters lose touch of top eight

I think Bennett’s win percentage is actually 54%, but it doesn’t really change much.

Win percentage is a funny metric in a three game series, perhaps some weighting to games coached would paint a more realistic picture. You’d have to be a very unlucky coach today to get a 100% win rate but only one game to your name. There’s only one coach in Origin history that hasn’t won a game, but the coach that only coached one game is untouchable statistically

Who are the greatest Origin coaches?

It was an odd signing at the time. Not sure his style of play ever really was going to gel with the roosters set up

Round 20 Talking Points: Resting Origin stars a huge gamble as Roosters lose touch of top eight

Shout-out to the Dogs too, they were right in it until they lost Sexton. Kid’s certainly sparked something since coming into the team

Round 20 Talking Points: Resting Origin stars a huge gamble as Roosters lose touch of top eight

Unless you win against NZ 😛
jokes. But preseason predictions are meaningless, they’re just filler. For example, you would have to have been an absolute genius to pick the Rabbits coming 3rd in ’18 after finishing 11th the year before, but even if you did pick it you would have been shouted down for not going with the safe bets.
For every expert picking NZ for wooden spoon there were two picking knights or dolphins. Most people like the Warriors, it’s just their inconsistency that makes em hard to back

Round 20 Talking Points: Resting Origin stars a huge gamble as Roosters lose touch of top eight

I reckon putting money on the Roosters with a full squad would have been a bigger gamble then resting teddy was this season

Round 20 Talking Points: Resting Origin stars a huge gamble as Roosters lose touch of top eight

No need for apologies, I haven’t taken issue with anything you’ve said. If I come across as being blunt it’s just me struggling to find a compromise between word counts and a lifetime of being told to “show your working Emcie!”.
I just have doubts that the “feels” are legitimate. Eg, the Eels were 5 from 12 pre origin yet are 4 from 5 during Origin, but they’ve still been hard done by. It never seems to be the teams with heavy representation complaining about Origin.
It just comes across as an easy catch all excuse. Rabbitohs were complaining deluxe about Latrell pulling up sore in blues training, a week later cody does his quad in rabbitohs training and not a peep. Was the standard of games that high before Origin? What was the reason for poor games then?
I think it’s probably spread out too long, but that was at the players request iirc. The draw overall has plenty of issues that impact the game, I just think that Origin’s specific contributions to that are overblown. There’s 24 games in a season, if the Eels have an unsuccessful season it’s probably not from one loss during origin

Time to pause during Origin and reduce length of season as interstate contest leaves NRL in the shade

Over the last two weeks there’s been at least four separate expert articles using the Eels example to propose changes and multiple mentions in other articles about how tough they’ve had it.
Honestly I think this has less to do with “inequality” and more to do with the club getting a taste of what it’s like to be a top side. Storm, Roosters and Bronco’s (during the Bennett years) have had to deal with playing the top sides twice, depleted teams over Origin (for more then one game) and regular Thursday/Friday night games for decades. All the while being told these were massively unfair advantages.
In comparison Parra have had it pretty soft this year. Parra and South’s combined had 8 players selected in Game 3 (double their first two games) , Penrith and Cowboys had games with 7 selected each. Pre 2006 it wasn’t unusual for the Bronco’s to have 11/12 players selected. There were also 32 byes over Origin this year compared to the usual 8, the period has never been easier to navigate.
Parra made it to one GF and now we have to make sweeping changes for their benefit.

Time to pause during Origin and reduce length of season as interstate contest leaves NRL in the shade

Fair enough. Pokies. Pokies were legalised in NSW but weren’t in QLD. Leagues clubs in QLD simply couldn’t compete with the difference in revenue. They were legalised in ’92 in QLD (compared to’ 56 in NSW) but by then the NSWRL were way ahead financially. Economically NSW always had the advantage but that was the tipping point. No conspiracies, it’s just what happened

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

You said “it would be impossible to ‘bring back’ Brisbane teams into something they were never part of”, after an article about “bringing back” a NSWRL team into the NRL

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

Pretty sure most Queenslanders could answer that in one word. It’s pretty well known what happened. But it was definitely on tv

History, nostalgia and passion: Why NRL should ensure Jets comeback gets off the ground in Perth

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