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I agree nemesis. I think one of the biggest obstacles to the game here is the false expectation that we need to average 20k crowds. Alternatively there’d be a meltdown on the Roar if we had second division
crowds in the hundreds

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

Which is why comparisons to Japan are very flawed Rodger

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

Not unless there is tv deal covering the second tier Nick. I’m not sure who’d be interested in paying for the right (I’m aware NPL games are streamed – for free)

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

Agree there is already pro relegation, but those leagues are amateur. Even at NPL level budgets are tiny in comparison to A-league. This is the issue; how does a club averaging 500 people, paying players $500-1k a game (many don’t) suddenly step up? Will players throw in careers for one season in the A-league.? What happens with their suburban ground unfit for tv/bigger crowds? Unlike in the A-league there will be very little if any tv money to support them. What happens to the A-league club with a playing budget if $2milllion plus (from tv money) survive financially dropping into a semi pro league? Not to mention stadium deals which are already crippling some?

I want pro/rel but there are all issues that need to be addressed. If not any promoted club will go under, or at best go straight back down. It’d be the death knell for relegated A-league teams too. It’s a financial problem, one that I’m yet to hear a solution for

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

Thanks for the input about Japanese football Matsu.

Size wise though you are a bit out; 7.692 million km2 compared to Japan’s 377,’972 km2. That makes Australia 20x bigger with Japan having 6x the population.

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

So, how can it work?

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

You’d better remind me of Japan’s population and physical size….

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

It’s the only question really Mike; how will a game already stretched financially fund an entire second tier, also factoring in the need for parachute payments?

I haven’t met anyone who didn’t want pro/rel, but I’m yet to see a realistic model of how it would work. Saying “we need it”and “just do it” isn’t a financial model btw

Who is paying for promotion and relegation in the A-League?

I had the Australian team in the late 70’s. Few players ended up at their original height! Wish my mum had kept them all. We had Southampton, Liverpool, Norwich, a heap of them. Had the real pitch but had to replace the goals after they were broken.

Never did play by anything like the rules though

When did football become so difficult to like?

That’s because it’s a truly global game, players from every continent competing for a contract. Hard for Australian sports fans to comprehend

The three keys to fixing the Socceroos

Rigid and Moon! Curse you predictive text!!

The three keys to fixing the Socceroos

You didn’t kneel on them all and have to glue them back together Buddy? I decimated Feyenoord by accident!

When did football become so difficult to like?

Concussion check!!

Scots are fanatical about football. They are also hopeless

The three keys to fixing the Socceroos

Um, the A-league didn’t exist then!!!!!!!!
Ryan, Rigid, Kruse, Moon, Leckie, all of players playing in bigger leagues and clubs came through the A-league or were “made” by the league.

I’ll think you’ll also find that back “then” the Chinese Japanese and Korean leagues weren’t nearly as strong or rich. Had they been we’d find the likes of Choppers and others would have been there, rather than second tier leagues

The three keys to fixing the Socceroos

I wasn’t seriously suggesting la Liga is cannon fodder Punter. Mess is incredible but to suggest he is twice the player Ronaldo is is staggering

When did football become so difficult to like?

Australians love the national team. Ratings are enormous for the WC.
“Disinterest in football”. What does that mean? It is the most played game and we follow leagues all over the world. Don’t mistake a struggling NT side with disinterest, though Australians do prefer winners and melt down if we lose

The three keys to fixing the Socceroos

It’s always been this way, more than a century of politics, racism, fascism, sexism and greed. Football has only ever been a microcosm of society at any given time. Our government’s shameful treatment of boat people shows what is thought about human rights at this time in history.

Football also does enormous good and is an incredible platform for joy and entertainment. Bigger than religion, all around the world. More popular than ever.

Messi twice the player Ronaldo is? You may have missed the fact that Ronaldo steps up in every big match and has had international success, as well as conquering 3 countries. Messi? Arguably a flat track bully, beating up on cannon fodder in Spain only to go missing for Argentina, when the competition is harder. I prefer to watch Messi but Ronaldo is magnificent and certainly not half the player.

When did football become so difficult to like?

I feel your pain

When did football become so difficult to like?

Agree. Corica’s personality looks more suited to that of an assistant, and like Arnold did with Hiddink I suspect he’s simply copying his predecessors blueprint. The problem with this is that when it isn’t working you need to be able to tweak things in game. Can he?

Should Sydney FC sack Steve Corica?

Surely we get Jamieson too?!

Should Sydney FC sack Steve Corica?

“All 3 have extraordinary talent for A- eague players”. Hmmmm. Ivanovic has potential but I’m yet to see reasons for such hyperbole from the other 2.

I do agree it’s a real shame that SFC are a dull watch. Grant is pretty much the only player with any pace in the team, and yes they are very narrow, as is the Sydney way from pretty much day one.

I said pre season, and again a few weeks ago, that the jury is out on Corica. Can he stamp his own mark on the team? Can he make in game tactical changes? Sack him though? Not at this stage

Should Sydney FC sack Steve Corica?

I’m sure Real or Barcelona have done!

Should Sydney FC sack Steve Corica?

Then I agree David

Some things are more important than a round of football

Ernie has assembled this side, it’s his own. The Jets were falling away by the end of last season and they’ve been off the pace all of this

Some things are more important than a round of football

Ernie has a “tell” for when things are going wrong. His team’s get very narrow and he packs central players into all positions. He did it in his later years at MV.

All season he has made inexplicable team selections. I haven’t got time to go into them all, but just in recent weeks alone we’ve seen; Shepard, the most stereotypical target man playing right midfield, Jair a striker spending the season on the left wing, Jackson stinking the place up at left back- he’s a centre back.

Ernie loves a midfield of 2 defensive mids who won’t push up no matter the score. 3-0 v ccm and we have 5 at the back v 1 attacker. Jackson sits in and left back until 20 to go leaving Jair with no support, no overlaps. When he finally went forward he sets up a goal. Ernie has a blind spot with fullbacks. He played Katroumbis at left back in the final, leaving Petratis totally isolated, even when chasing the game.

Remember, the ccm game was a game the jets absolutely had to win. His plan? Ridenton, a cm, as the right attacker. Jair, a central player, left attacker. Jackson, a cb at left back, a midfield of Cowburn and Ugark. Pre game I predicted a defeat with the line up. On the bench was Shepard, who’s been excellent, came in with 20 to go. Vargas, the marquee. Even at full strength he’d squeeze in every central player he could, making the team very narrow.

He is negative and inflexible. Subs are like for like and predictable. There is no intensity and his in game management is poor.

The same problems have persisted all season, the Jackson one especially, and the lack of width. Ernie had a great first season at the Nux but struggled thereafter. He’s on the same progression

Some things are more important than a round of football