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Australia has NOT “always supported the national teams”. The Matildas attracted 2500 fans against Brazil in a match played in Sydney not that long ago. In fact many of the players in the current Matildas team were playing that day. They even ended up playing behind closed doors in another match around the same time because they couldn’t attract enough fans to pay for costs and justify opening the stadium. Their matches were certainly not shown on commercial FTA tv like they are now. The Socceroos attracted 15k against Argentina in the Bicentenial Gold Cup in Sydney, yes they were players missing from the Argentina team but can you imagine only attracting 15k now? No way. There are many other similar examples. The Socceroos were also not deemed commercial tv worthy not that long ago hence why SBS showed all their games. The national teams coverage has evolved as has the interest from the public. The perception of the Aleague will improve over time as well but will take much longer as it builds generational support.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

13th man, everyone can watch/follow/support whatever sport they like but I personally cannot support a code (AFL) that has gone out of it’s way on so many occasions to derail the progress of football in so many different ways. Maybe you’re too young to know what’s happened over the years or maybe you don’t care but I for one will never spend a cent supporting or following a code that has proven to be the enemy of my sport on so many occasions. I do not go out of my way to read AFL articles or insult people who follow AFL. Nor do I go out of my way to criticise the AFL but there is no way I will sit silent when so many, so often, both in the past and present, attack the game I love. On those occasions, I will defend my turf and respond accordingly. As for your last sentence, I do not believe you are a true football fan if you don’t try and support football in the country you live in, to help it grow and improve. A true football fan will support a Euro club, Aleague club and even an NPL club, assuming the time and money is available. They don’t have to watch and/or attend every game in every league but surely if you follow the EPL for example you can go to the occasional ALeague match each year instead of bagging it at every opportunity and quite often without justification.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

Love your comments FiL. I’ve had countless debates with people that criticise the local game or don’t attend. Many have never actually been and have this pre-conceived idea that it’s not good enough because it’s not the EPL. Keep up the good work mate.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

There are multiple groups of people that the APL need to target. I agree with you Waz that the APL needs to be prepared to address the question of why many people have abandoned the Aleague. The other obvious group they need to target is the people going to Matildas matches. I believe the vast majority of these people have never been to an AL match, men or women. As you say, the NSL bitters are a very small but vocal minority and definitely don’t represent all participants below the Aleague as they seem to claim so often.

Forget those bringing down the game, what if we embraced the A-League and Australian football cups are actually half-full?

P+ technical support are the most incompetent team I’ve ever dealt with. They ignore your description of the issue and all the relevant info you provided when logging the support call then email you a generic set of questions where you have to repeat your info all over again. Even then they don’t seem to read your response and just hope you give up and go away.

Does the A-League have the clout to make a UK-bound event round work in season 2024/25?

Yes, I remember both South Melb and Fitzroy fans doing that too. I would never have done what they did because it makes zero sense to me, once your club is relocated/rebranded that’s it, it’s all over imo. Can you imagine that happening in the Aleague e.g. the Jets or many years ago the Mariners (many were advocating their licence should be relocated elsewhere)? I reckon 99.9% would not support the relocated/rebranded club.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

True, although Brisbane wasn’t quite the same as the Swans. They were originally a brand new club who were on the verge of folding when the AFL decided to “merge” them with Fitzroy. What a joke. Some merger! Which Fitzroy supporter would be stupid enough to support Brisbane after that! I suppose there are plenty of gullible people around.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

See, the thing is Buddy, a few people I know can’t go to Aleague games on Friday night because it clashes with their football training. When Aleague games are on Sunday afternoon at 2:30pm they often clash with their matches, so once again they can’t attend Aleague games. These are the very people we are trying to attract to Aleague games. This happens now when the Aleague season overlaps with the NPL for a few months. I can see this becoming a much bigger problem if the seasons are aligned. For this to happen, it means the Aleague must be played in winter and then you’ll see heaps of people not attending. Meanwhile, many of those that do not play will say they don’t wan to go because it’s too cold and/or too wet. There is no doubt in my mind, that the current season is the best time of the year to play the Aleague, as long as the tv deal becomes more flexible so they can reschedule games so that they are not played in the heat during the day. Then there’s the shared stadium with Rugby league and Union for many clubs and the damage done to the pitch and the lines showing on the football pitch. The negatives of playing in winter far outweigh the positives in my opinion.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

That sums it up the msm in general (except for Ch10), they talk about a 4th tier English club instead of a big game in their own city.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

Thanks for your contribution.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

Excellent post Leon. As a follow up to what you said, the number one issue facing the game is governance. If governance was streamlined, it would be far easier to achieve common outcomes benefitting the whole game. We have so many functions duplicated across multiple state feds, we have the FA then we have the APL, each and every one of these entities has their own agenda.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

It’s definitely complex Midfielder and you make some good suggestions but can I also point out that although the Victorian based AFL clubs started in their communities many years ago, AFL clubs in WA, SA, Qld and NSW were formed in the same manner as many Aleague clubs and don’t have that generational history but people seem to ignore that.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

I hear what you’re saying Gus but find it a bit weird in light of the fact that so many people go to Matildas matches these days, yet don’t go to ALM matches. Even ALW average attendances have increased multiple times, albeit from a low base.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

I’m not sure which club you’re referring to Cameron but I can’t say I’ve been subject to any form of “coercive and emotional abuse”. It shouldn’t be an obligation to support football, your Aleague club or to coach your local club. It’s something you do because you enjoy it.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

Did you watch the Wellington game Brainstrust, it was pouring continuously? I reckon they would have got well over 10k if it wasn’t raining.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

You’re joking Redondo, surely you’re just making fun of Sydney now, they could not have said that. If this is true then that explains a lot about the ABC football coverage or should I say lack of it.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

I’m curious NickA, where you following football and living in Melbourne when the Aleague started? When Victory were formed to represent all football fans in Melbourne, what stopped you from jumping on board and start supporting them? Personally, I have been following football well before the Aleague started, so when I heard they were creating a new league (after the NSL had just collapsed) where clubs not aligned to specific ethnic communities I thought, this was an opportunity for football to finally attract the masses and become mainstream. As an existing football fan, I wanted what was best for the game and there was no way I would not be part of it and support an Aleague club. I might also add, I was a supporter of an NSL club as well before the Aleague.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

Team 11 represented the south east of Melbourne while WU represented the western suburbs. No A-league compliant rectangular stadium exists in either region. Team 11 had no money to build one and relied on the Vic govt to build it for them whereas WU did have the money and had a business plan in place which was to grow in parallel with a community in a newly developed area, something that apparently worked with a US sports club. I can see why they selected WU but they should not have been allowed in the league until this season, i.e. until their training centre was built and plans are approved for the new 15k stadium. This idea of drifting around like nomads does not help with building a fan base or engaging in an existing one. Team 11 would have probably done something similar and not played in their region.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

I get that Buddy but I’m not talking about them. I’m talking about people that have never supported an ALM club and they use this mysterious excuse of not being connected to their local ALM club to justify it.

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

I’m not sure why people say they “have no attachment” to an ALM club that represents their city or region. What exactly are they expecting to happen in order for them to become “attached” ?

How can the APL convince casual fans the A-League Men is worth supporting?

Big night for AUFC, last home game of the home and away season and possibly last time to see Irankunda!

A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty

Waz, there is one other possible scenario, that the reporter did not get it right in the first place i.e. Irankunda was never actually “officially” asked to join the Olyroos. I mean, has Vidmar actually confirmed that he officially asked him and was turned down? If that is the case then the rules are clear. I personally don’t see how Vidmar can leave him out of the squad initially “because Irankunda wasn’t ready or had issues to deal with” then suddenly ignore those reasons and officially request him to attend. Surely the same reasons still apply? Which leads me to think, this has been twisted to make a story around Irankunda.

A-League clubs air grievances after Nestory Irankunda's shock snubbing of Olyroos duty

You’re kidding right? Did that actually make the ABC news? The few times I go out of my way to check for football coverage on their bulletins, I usually see no coverage, so now they decide to show this? What a joke.

Western United's football-specific facility is a milestone worth celebrating

I am still frustrated with the scheduling. I know it’s April but it was 36 in Perth when the game kicked off at 3pm. Is it an impossibility to reschedule a match like that to 7pm? If TV is the only constraint then they need top amend that asap because it doesn’t help anyone. It certainly doesn’t maximise the attendance, which helps with the tv product, tv ratings and ultimately TV rights value.

Western United's football-specific facility is a milestone worth celebrating

Signal to noise ratio, hahaha, a great analogy Waz, love it, spot on.

If it wasn't for Irankunda, every A-League headline would be negative right now

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