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Let’s just imagine a 60 minute video from the AB coachs highlighting all the Ref errors on the weekend and then blaming him for not speaking/giving respect to Ardie because of his “race”!

Would be amusing to watch the Bok fans reaction!

The Wrap: Tense, gripping clash of styles falls the All Blacks' way

His best position is off the bench, where he can bring his energy onto the field last 20 minutes etc.

Would also be interested to see where Frizell would be in the debate if he was in the squad. Understand he has being playing very well for the Mako’s at 8.

The Wrap: Tense, gripping clash of styles falls the All Blacks' way

Firstly on Oz – great to see how they are going and hopefully they are finally putting their horror years to an end, when the get the likes of Skelton, Latu etc back – they will have a team that can beat any team in the world on their day.

Now for the AB’s – good luck to the Boks if they think their current game plan will keep them up at or near the top of the world. They have only won 50% of their games thus far this year and now play AB, Scotland, Wales and England (all away obviously) – and it’s not hard to see them losing a few more and accordingly slipping down to 3 or 4 ranked side by year end.

For the AB’s personally don’t think Havili is the answer at 12 when playing a side like the Boks – you need someone at 12 with the ability to effectively crash ball it and set a target for the forwards – likes of a Nonu/Kervei/Tuilagi and the best person in the squad is Tupaea – and for everyone who would say he is to inexperienced – well playing at 12 he has more experience than Havili, who was only moved to 12 at the start of this year.

Coming back to the end of year tour for the AB’s do hope they pick Lester Fainga’anuku – who at 110Kg could grow into our version of Kervei and who maybe would bring some of the physical presence we need for games that require mobile battering rams.

The Wrap: Tense, gripping clash of styles falls the All Blacks' way

Such a dire game and that at this level a team was putting up and unders when in your opposition’s 22, is frankly embarrassing.

I don’t understand how Bok rugby thinks it can continue to play the game in such a one dimensional style and expect to win. Effectively you are hoping that your opposing teams skill execution let’s them down and you can then take advantage.

Last night the AB’s skill execution under the high ball was poor and really they should have lost the game, however as with all things they will get better and when that happens and the AB’s execute their skills correctly – what will the Boks have to fall back on and where will they score their points?

I guess the Boks can play how they like, but do wonder if they consider that with last nights game, they now only have a 50% win record for the season, is that win/loss record telling them something?

SA View: Heartbreak in the 100th as Boks 'set the table, kill the calf and forget to eat'

Nah – Even Tupaea would be better than Havili, Tupaea has size and can set a target for the forwards, especially when playing a side like the Boks – sometimes you need someone to just truck it up and Havili is not the man for that type of role.

Agree re: TJ, great player but terrible 9. Does make you realize however just how good Smith is and how much we will miss him when he retires (same could be said of Whitelock as well).

Boks coach bemoans 'bounce of the ball' as youngster's massive play secures All Blacks win

Yip, why I enjoy watching AB’s play the Wallabies, win or lose – both sides want to play rugby and entertain.

Boks coach bemoans 'bounce of the ball' as youngster's massive play secures All Blacks win

How would you like to be a Bok fan and watch them putting an up and under whilst in the AB 22, just amazing. If they wanted to play rugby they could be an amazing team but with the tactics that they utilize they deserve to lose every time.

For AB’s – Jack Goodhue please come back from injury, Havili showed today what he is – a 15 pushed into 12.

And poor George Bridge – was selected to do one job and that was to take the high ball! He was terrible tonight and AB’s next to find a replacement for him and Havili for next weeks game.

Boks coach bemoans 'bounce of the ball' as youngster's massive play secures All Blacks win

So what are the weaknesses – scrum/lineout, maul, defence?

Coach’s Corner Issue 27: Who is really the number one team in the world?

Had great hopes for PT when he came onto the scene, but very disappointed really.
He has never taken that step up where he demands selection and for just such a massive guy just seems to disappear during games.

'We're aware of the history': Foster names strongest available side for All Blacks clash with Boks

Think I read somewhere that Papalii and ALB both out injured…

What I’m impressed by is the depth that the AB’s are starting to build – consider the players not available and who if available would be probably be in/around the 23.

Smith
Mo’unga
Whitelock
Cane
Goodhue
Dane Coles

Know a lot of people would disagree with Goodhue – but Havili is only playing 12 because Goodhue is out injured for season and would expect him back there for both Crusaders/AB’s next year when fit.

'We're aware of the history': Foster names strongest available side for All Blacks clash with Boks

Yes their D was pretty ropey, but have to look at the players they had on the field.

If you want to question AB defence, some of the D in the Perth game was pretty poor backend of the game.

How the Springboks hit an English speed bump at Suncorp

What like when Arg scored zero points in the first test?

How the Springboks hit an English speed bump at Suncorp

Really?

That centre pairing for the Wallabies did play against an AB side in Perth (who were minus Smith, Whitelock and Mo’unga) and Ikitau in particular missed a couple of key tackles – one in which Ioane just ran past him and set-up Jordan for a simple try.

Further Kervei was well handled by Havili, who was backed up in defence by Savea, so unlike vs Boks he didn’t get any easy runs.

It’s funny how sides make major improvements when not playing the AB’s……

How the Springboks hit an English speed bump at Suncorp

Understand that Bridge is like an extra 15 and given tactics of Boks that is important, but given his current form don’t think his play is actually good enough to supersede what Ioane brings to the team and with Jordan/Barrett at the back, think we are well covered re: high ball tactics.

That being said, might be Ioane will be at 13 this weekend as sounds like ALB still has HS problems.

The ‘clunk’ of another All Black piece falling into place under coach Foster

Always surprised that people would have the best attacking threat in Ioane on the bench? How does it benefit the AB’s to have the most inform and attacking threat off the field for 50+ minutes?

As for Bridge – understand how people rate him as being one of the best multi skilled wingers that we have, but watching in the past couple of weeks clear for me that he is still not functioning that well and have questions around his lack of impact in games at times.

Big pity is that C.Clarke is not available currently, would be great to see him the mix – mixture of him, Ioane and Jordan at wing with Barrett at the back – good luck defending that trio of players.

The ‘clunk’ of another All Black piece falling into place under coach Foster

Well big question is where does Goodhue stand and actually what is his best position?

He was a virtual lock in for 12/13 when fit and would assume that he will be slotted back into the backline when available next year.

Will be a mean looking backline when everyone is fully fit and available and some very good players will miss out.

The ‘clunk’ of another All Black piece falling into place under coach Foster

Strength in depth AB’s are building is impressive just consider that Jack Goodhue is not mentioned or others like Umaga-Jensen, Garden-Bachop for the backs etc.

And then coming next year Dominic Bird is back and will be probably sniffing around for a spot.

All in all, bar Loose forward trio and long term I think once Cane is back, Savea will revert back to the bench – squad depth is becoming very impressive.

The ‘clunk’ of another All Black piece falling into place under coach Foster

What I find interesting and I’m not in any way a scrum guru etc, is that some very expert opinion around scrum can watch same coverage and come up with different explanation/views.

Sorta makes one realize how tough the Refs have it during the game and having to make the call without being able to watch video over and over again.

Coach’s Corner Issue 26: Is Dave Rennie thinking outside the 'Boks?

Think that’s a bit unfair.

In his role as back up 10, Willemse should have nailed that conversion – it was not a tough kick but he missed and at this level it the difference between a draw/loss.

It’s why the AB’s will probably select Mo’unga over Barrett, which is that at test level you are required to kick your goals – So given his role off the bench he deserves the criticism.

As for Bongi – well as an AB fan I clearly know who I would rather the AB’s face in the front row, same I would also say around Nyakane – how he get’s in the team is a head scratcher to me – but on the good side also helps the AB win/loss record.

South Africa make three changes for second Wallabies showdown

Sometimes people just go a little to long and at 35 – that is OK for a lock but at 8 – when you need a little bit more?

Will watch him with interest but physically he looked heavy and with Mosert – who is a converted lock, bulk and strength are there but speed around the ground?

Could see a lot of turnovers this weekend and will be interested to see if the Wallabies attempt to run the Boks off their feet, which is what I would imagine that AB’s will attempt to do.

South Africa make three changes for second Wallabies showdown

Re:Thor

Thought that he looked overweight and heavy last Saturday, maybe lady time is calling him.

That loose forward trio of Mostert, Kolisi and Thor look heavy to me and if you consider loose forward trio of AB’s – wonder if they have the necessary speed.

South Africa make three changes for second Wallabies showdown

Think we are playing Wales outside International window – so that means potentially players like Dan Biggar will not be available.

How the Springboks can overcome the All Blacks – and not just this year

Think Oz was lucky on that last scrum, from what I could see appeared that Topou angled in (something he has being picked up for by Oz/Kiwi Refs) and penalty should have gone to the Boks.

Personally thought the Ref bottled it a bit in final couple of minutes – when I think that scrum and preceeding one should have being Bok penalties but think he was scared in making a call in the final minutes until forced to.

Still fortune favors the brave and Oz won etc. This weeks game is extremely important for the development of this Oz team – was this result a one off or can they sustain their sucess.

One factor in Oz’s favor is if they can just hold the Bok forwards – can SA score points? Takeway away their maul and trying to play for penalties – do they have anything else?

Criminal really when you look at their backline – would be great to see Kolbe back this weekend as he might be the spark needed.

Rugby Championship turnaround: What a difference a Quade makes

Guess the team that lost to the AB’s at the WC, have a 10% win record vs AB’s in recent past and just in recent past have lost to known rugby powers in Japan and Italy.

Guess that team is also one in which a recent Bok player was found on the roids and subsquently banned and finally when can we expect a hour long video from the Coach complaining about the ref and further coaching staff indicating that their captain was not given respect by the ref due to a hint of racism?

Finally which teams fans were happy to describe Wallabies as wimps and just got their a*** handed to them last night?

Mmmm let me think – my guess is that team is the Boks?

The Wrap: Quade Cooper finds the sweet spot to bring the Wallabies home

Guess the AB’s will have just have to face it, those Boks with an incredible win ratio of 10% vs AB’s over past 10 games, will have them very worried.

Probably what will scare them the most is the “all court” game that the Boks can bring – same sorta game plan I guess that allowed them to lose to both Japan and Italy over the recent years….

The Wrap: Quade Cooper finds the sweet spot to bring the Wallabies home

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