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Forget about that, it’s not happening unless they have to. Where are the finals going to be?

Victorian clubs headed interstate to keep AFL season going

It’s a bit far off now, but where do we think finals will be played? I would have thought all the finals being played in a hub would have the least risk of disruption.

Victorian clubs headed interstate to keep AFL season going

It may be an advantage if it makes you battle hardened. It may be a disadvantage if you a few consecutive losses eat at your confidence. Which will it be?

Victorian clubs headed interstate to keep AFL season going

Yes it is vital to compare to other sports. It’s just your comparison that is tenuous and I think I explained well enough why.
Just so it’s clear, I haven’t suggested reducing the number of players; I have only suggested that doing so would have an impact on congestion, be it minimal or meaningful.

Five reasons 16-a-side AFL teams are ludicrous

It’s a bit tenuous to compare the area per player with other sports. Such comparisons make no account for the obvious differences in typical ball movement. Yes, the rugby codes have a similar ball and incorporate the same sorts of kicks but the dominant ball movement is a throw. Additionally, the rules of those sports prevent players in front of the kicker from contesting a kick, so inevitably there is a lot of space in front of the ball.
Soccer’s ability to move the ball long distances quickly is most similar, and while there are offside rules you can still have attacking players in front of the ball. To make a comparison about congestion, there is little point talking about how big the field is compared to the total number of players. If a single kick can’t get the ball to those parts of the field then it’s less important to defend, so what matters is how many players you can get close to the ball. In the case of soccer it’s 10 or 11 defenders depending on whether the GK falls in that area. In AFL it’s 18. Of course in Soccer if the ball is in the middle, the sidelines are within kicking distance, which reduces the area a bit, but the sides in both sports aren’t as heavily defended as in front of the ball. So in a case where one team has possession, congestion is higher in AFL.
In the case of a stoppage the 50/50 nature tends to spread the players 360 degrees around the stoppage with the notable exceptions of boundary throw-ins, and ball ups close to boundarys or inside 50. Nevertheless, getting a clear kick from a stoppage is more difficult and likely reduces the distance that can be kicked, thereby reducing the area and increasing congestion.
As I see it (and if it’s agreed that congestion is an issue that needs fixing), the two possible answers to this are:

1. Reduce the number of players
2. Find some mechanism to stop the players from bunching.

Number 1 would have an impact, but how much impact and would it be enough? It might be but it might not.

Number 2 has many options but what is the best way to do this that is easy to police a d doesn’t fundamentally change the game. I favour innovations that could reduce stoppages and speed up any stoppages. I would like to see throw-ins and ball-ups to happen without delay, no need to check if the players are ready. Would that be enough? Probably not but it’s a start.

Five reasons 16-a-side AFL teams are ludicrous

Boyd already has one but I don’t see him getting another.

It just gets more sad for the Broncos

I’m thinking of the club officials and fans. Surely, they deserve the opportunity to have their support really tested. Otherwise they’re not getting the full football club supporters’ experience.

It just gets more sad for the Broncos

The Kinghts were off in the first half but don’t undersell the Cowboys performance either. Their defence in the first half was rock solid, they got big contributions from Taumalolo (nothing new) and McGuire in the middle, and Clifford had a really solid performance directing the team in attack. The kicking into touch also helped quell Ponga’s influence. I think the Cowboys displayed that they’re much better than what was on show in the first half last week.

What Newcastle can learn after that loss

Character building. I’m sure a few years of this would do them good.

It just gets more sad for the Broncos

A brilliant performance by Stokes to get England the win but Australia did so much wrong in that last session. Bowling tactics. Letting Stokes get off strike so often on the 5th ball of the over and leaving Leach with only 1 ball to face. Poor use of DRS (what were they thinking when they were trying to bowl Leach behind his legs, the ball was always going to be pitching outside leg). Dropped catch. Missed run out.
Sitting at home, watching on TV it was incredibly frustrating. I can only imagine what it was like at the ground.

"We're gone, mate": Inter-generational ecstasy and agony as an Australian cricket fan

My Dad doesn’t tend to tell stories of the doom and gloom of the 80s for Australian cricket, although I think my brother and sister have some vague memories of it. When they were young any time they were challenged to do something quickly they would say, “We’ve gotta beat the West Indies!”

I think my dad is more interested in talking about the greats from that era (or any era for that matter), whether they be teams or players. Regarding the Australian Cricket team, the here and now always seems more important.

One story he tells is of watching Malcolm Marshall play for Moorabbin Cricket Club in Melbourne. He used the long run up for 1 over, after which he came in off the short run. My Dad was absolutely astounded by the pace he could generate off such a short run up.

My Dad also tells stories of finishing school and going with his brothers to the MCG to catch the last session of the shield matches. These sorts of experience are far less likely today. The international schedule is too full for world class players to play sub-district cricket and shield cricket hardly rates a mention in sports reports. Most kids probably wouldn’t even know it’s on.

"We're gone, mate": Inter-generational ecstasy and agony as an Australian cricket fan

What about the Welsh practice of adding ‘s’ to a given name. I suspect Sir Viv Richards is good enough to force his way into that side.

Son of a... cricket team

That was the idea and is the idea. There are no certainties with this virus. A spike in cases, which as of this week is stronger possibility, could see the season shut down again.

Integrity this, integrity that: Why the AFL needs to change their tune on 16-minute quarters

Surely there is a point where you have to value quality over quantity.

Cricket World Cup fans, you must maintain your rage!

Look Brian may be right to a point but while there is still an ODI format there is still merit in giving more meaning to other games outside of world cup periods. ODI is also a bridge to Test Cricket, which to many purists is still the pinnacle of the sport.
The other thing about the WC torunament models I proposed is that every game has a high value and it doesn’t reward mediocrity. There’s also no reason why you couldn’t use the same model for T20.

Cricket World Cup fans, you must maintain your rage!

It seemed to lose spacing before I edited. My edits were to use bold and italics to overcome the lack of spacing.

Cricket World Cup fans, you must maintain your rage!

I tried to space out paragraphs. Not sure why that didn’t work

Cricket World Cup fans, you must maintain your rage!

I think they should come up with a 15-20 year plan to expand the game. How it works in relation to ODIs is this:
2023 – 12 teams, 2 pools of 6. Top 3 from each pool qualify for KOs. 1st place straight to SFs.
2027 – 15 teams, 3 pools of 5. Top 2 from each pool to super 6, to play 4 other teams. Top 2 make final.

2031 – 18 teams, 3 pools of 6. Top 2 from each pool and 2 lucky losers make QFs.
2035 – 20 teams, 4 pools of 5. Top 2 from each pool make QFs.
Each qualification period, full member nations play a series of mini-tournaments to gain points; this is the world group. Auto Qualification for Champions Trophy winners. For each WC half the teams can qualify this way. The remaining full member nations have to play the best regional nations from Europe, Africa, Asia-Pacific and the Americas.
The tournaments are slated to expand each time and every 4 years the world group is reviewed with the potential for expansion.
The tournaments give teams a minimum 4/5 games but won’t drag on too long. 12 teams is a good starting place because the top 12 are competitive with each other. The idea is that with a structure in place, every 4 years the depth becomes greater and lower ranked teams stronger, making expansion viable.

Cricket World Cup fans, you must maintain your rage!

Surely if Annesly can be so emphatic about this it means that current rules that prevent video refs from deciding on forward passes is flawed, but you can’t have it both ways.

NRL admits Manly were dudded by wrong call

For my own enjoyment I created an excel table that shows NSWRL/ARL/SL/NRL clubs by season. Clubs are represented by vertical columns with the colours in the cells of each horizontal row for the years they took part. Not including rebranding (e.g. Easts to Sydney City to Sydney) there have been 33 different entities in those competitions. 16 of those are current and 17 are extinct. That’s right, more than half extinct. While a lot of that has to do with the era referenced in this article, the NSWRL was historically turbulent, with demise of clubs like Cumberland, Glebe, Annandale, Univesrity and Newtown a testament to this fact.
In contrast, the other page I have for the other big national football league the AFL, in its history as VFL/AFL has had 21 different entities. Not including rebranding and relocation, 18 of those are current, 3 extinct.
Clearly the two codes have a very different story in the way they were formed but did that culture permeate through 100 years of history or were there other unrelated factors that made the turmoil of the 90s much more devastating for rugby league clubs?

Super League revisited: The ARL clubs

Because Annesly clearly has some kind of power that video refs do not possess. Either that or he’s not that special and video referees should be able to rule on a forward pass.

NRL admits Manly were dudded by wrong call

I don’t think Morgan was the best for the Cowboys in the 2015 Grand Final. Is try assist in the final seconds was brilliant but aside from that he was well covered by the Broncos defence, and try as he might he struggled to have any influence. The Cowboys candidates for best afield to my mind are Jake Granville with 2 try assists and 36 tackles, and Jason Taumalolo with 177 run metres (70 post contact) and 30 tackles.
Milford, like you said was a strong candidate, but one thing that probably worked against him was letting Morgan get outside him in the final seconds.
One other point, I think Thurston is often maligned for how scrappy it was in that final play but I think his tactics for the play was sound. The play the ball happened in the middle of the field and demanded the ball very wide to the left of the ruck, a pass that Granville can’tmake on the full. By doing that he’s looking catch the defence out by out-numbering them or making them overcommit. They do that latter as 10 Broncos defenders end up on that side of the field. This then gives Morgan the perfect opportunity with the space to use his speed and strength. It’s not pretty but it was a well reasoned play.

Is Johnathan Thurston really better than Andrew Johns?

Certainly gives weight but how often are teams good enough to win two years in a row? I can certainly think of teams in recent history who came close one year and won the premiership the following year.

Is Johnathan Thurston really better than Andrew Johns?

Jamie Soward actually did revolutionise the game. It’s because of him we have the 7 tackle set.

Is Johnathan Thurston really better than Andrew Johns?

I understand that other fullbacks ball played before him, but one area he really excelled at was his kick returns. Now I know he’s not the first fullback to have speed and agility but I think one thing he did different from players before was really attack the final tackle kick. Obviously he had the speed to get to more balls on the full but it wasn’t just that, it was a willingness to back himself to get there, when so many other players before would have been conservative for fear of fumbling the ball.
You might disagree, or perhaps you think the distinction is too subtle. That’s alright, but I guess regardless my point about revolutionising the game still stands. You don’t have to do it to be great and maybe you don’t have to be great to do it.

Is Johnathan Thurston really better than Andrew Johns?