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Harry Jones

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Yes, supersize it. Of course, close calls would go to the local guy. But get the best 50 into the squad and find 35 and then let them all fight for spots.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Yes. Entirely correct. Remove the ban entirely. A Get Off Me Rule. A Gitoff Rule.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

What was the W-L record for Australia over those periods of time? How well did those players play in those losses? Were they really the keys to why they lost?

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Koroibete was good when the WBs were bad. That alone is very hard to find.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

That’s not really a fair view of Rory’s work. I don’t think Richie was as good. But Rory did good work as a Wallaby and has unique attributes hard to match.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

All the Aussie-based players of a certain quality are getting offers to move overseas, but that is not 100% of SRP players. Some of the offers are not that good. So, we might say that maybe 15 or 20 have really attractive offers to move. No matter what the rules are on selection, you’ll never see all of those 15-20 all take the offer. Maybe half. I don’t see any floodgates opening.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

No doubt, but that does evoke how union feels in Australia better than now rugby feels in Ireland. Rugby is very popular in Ireland. And is popular even when Ireland is just OK. I don’t think IRFU is in any financial peril, and never was.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Yes, it’s an odd canard. 65% over 100 years makes you the second best team in history.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Winning you over.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Good errata.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

I think it’s too easy at the moment for any Wallaby who is playing well to know he has the jersey. It should be 3 deep at every position.

KLA and Kolbe kept Mapimpi and Moodie out but jeez all four are aces.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

I’ll leave it to the stats guys to explain why W-L records for a struggling team applied to a particular player are not a great way to judge an overall policy.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

There’s plenty of fans in the NH who love club over country.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Yes, Jason Jenkins looked good for Leinster (he starts there) but when Rassie got him back for a camp, he just did not reload quick enough for the SA system where even locks chase kicks, and did not have the stopping power in the tight loose that Mostert has, but Mostert then knew he had to fend off a challenger and worked harder.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

It’s also instructive how many Aussies have gone on to play so well in other Test sides but were not rated that high at home: if there was no limit to capping them, then once it emerged that Hansen, Tuipolotu, Meafou, Bealham, et al were Test quality, an offer to cap them could have been made.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

I just think, maybe, even though the Canes are having their best season in ages, it’s just not very exciting for a lad like Jordie? Compared to Leinster in packed stadia?

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

EXACTLY! Competition for all places. Nobody guaranteed.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Still very hard to leave a small town in the Karoo and go to dark wet Scotland where you have to repeat your order in the shop five times to be understood and be away from family. It’s not like they getting LRZ cash.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Looks great and playing on a helluva team.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

😂 That’s simply not true, man! He is getting a PhD in scrums and doing v well.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Cheers, jez So sick of the losing, particularly when Wallabies lose bc of lack of grunt, depth, and leadership

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

That’s not my premise. My premise is to look at how many overseas players would be better than the WEAKEST thirteen to fourteen players you’d have to pick in a 35 man local squad. And I think the answer would 13. Or 14. And that depth. The hard work. The muscle. The lack of a drop off when a Bell or AAAAA gets hurt, or how the LO would run if a genuine LO caller stepped in and another one if he got hurt, or savages at the ruck. Yes, that’s the way the RWC just got won: Jean Kleyn wasn’t better than Eben Etzebeth. He didn’t have to be. But he was better than Nortje or Ruben, domestic locks in SA who are as good as a Swain but not as good as Kleyn.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

My thesis is OZ must win a lot more now. Now. Because the next 3 years is existential.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Oh, I meant if OZ had won a QF v France in France like that, it would have electrified OZ. So it isn’t accurate to say SA won all their matches with boring ball.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

Go back to 2017 and the SA situation was just as dire as it is in OZ. Yes, it is still tough, but from 2018 to 2024 the SA balance sheet, level of crowds, equity raise (Sharks, WP), trophies, TV show, and ability to get young guys to play rugby rather than soccer has grown exponentially. WP just got solvent and it has allowed them to get Kitshoff back, as well as Schickerling from Japan. Eben is back as is Willie. Winning wins.

Scrap the Giteau Law: Rugby Australia should look to Rassie's 'Boks RWC recipe if it wants to re-join the big boys' table

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