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It seems just a distant memory now, the hazy days of 2003. A world cup and genuine thoughts that rugby here was going to…
The debate regarding the structure of Super Rugby has been ongoing since the inception of the competition and has only intensified since its expansion…
The recent question time with Bill Pulver left me feeling very depressed about the future of the code in this country. I commend him…
It is hard to believe Super Rugby starts in a couple of weeks when it's still only February and most of us are still…
Rugby union in Australia is in serious trouble and how it got to this stage is a terrible indictment on some of the people…
After my first post last week (a way forward for rugby in Australia), I was surprised how many people agreed with the basic concept,…
Well here we go. This is my first post to The Roar, and it's about something dear to my heart: rugby union. How did…
You need an environment to attract those Tycoons, Super Rugby is not that environment.
What the Rebels players should be demanding to know, as Twiggy's ex-rival throws a familiar hail Mary
Exactly, and that comes down to the structure of the game, I visit NZ regularly and see the same, everyone is talking about the NRL and no doubt a winning Warriors help but people look at the NRL (and now they see how successful the AFL is) and then compare it with Super Rugby and go WTF.
What the Rebels players should be demanding to know, as Twiggy's ex-rival throws a familiar hail Mary
Bloody Westpac stadium, classic NZ thinking one size fits all I remember the debate, it had to be multi purpose, suitable for cricket (when you have one of the worlds best grounds B/R just next door) and the odd All Black game every 2nd year. viewing is so far away for spectators.
And with Wellingtons weather no one is going to buy a membership or commit to games when the weather is a 50/50
A Forsyth Bar clone would have been perfect, but sadly in hindsight.
'We have to keep the essence of what rugby is about': All Black legend's worrying words of warning
Yes, but what franchise in Super Rugby is averaging over 10,000 FANS. You can ask that about about the whole competition. WHERE ARE THOSE FANS.
'We have to keep the essence of what rugby is about': All Black legend's worrying words of warning
The solution was, is and will always be separate domestic competitions, and until that happens it’s rinse and repeat until the next article comes out.
Even NZ is beginning to suffer form rugby in no mans land. The failure to address the NPC when the game went professional was the beginning, instead of refining your core support and structural set up and evolve from that, the game went bingo we have SUPER DUPER rugby teams and a SUPER DUPER competition that is gonna take over the world.
The rest is history.
'We have to keep the essence of what rugby is about': All Black legend's worrying words of warning
“Running a Super Club is a quick way to bankruptcy it seems ”
Because the competition has to many structural flaws that prevent it from being a good competition and not enough of the good ingredients that make up a successful competition.
'We've got three pay cheques left': Rebels given glimmer of hope - but the clock is still ticking
Just the small irony of concerns fans will not travel an hour outside of Melbourne for them to survive, but there mooted replacement will require a 14,000 thousand mile return trip.
And people wonder why Super Rugby is on the nose.
'We've got three pay cheques left': Rebels given glimmer of hope - but the clock is still ticking
The boat has sailed and is now sinking.
The point being to grow a tree first you need to plant the seed, it is never to late
'Curse the money all you want' but RA must work out what it wants from Super Rugby - otherwise the game is doomed
“but we can’t afford to not have an NRC and Super even less.”
Except you have that around the wrong way, as an NRC will not send you bust.
'Curse the money all you want' but RA must work out what it wants from Super Rugby - otherwise the game is doomed
“Do it. P off from NZR and watch.”
Yep lets do it.
'Curse the money all you want' but RA must work out what it wants from Super Rugby - otherwise the game is doomed
How’s that Silver Lake money going Jacko.
Hard to fly like an Eagle when your f___g around with turkeys every day.
'Curse the money all you want' but RA must work out what it wants from Super Rugby - otherwise the game is doomed
Maybe it’s about time we went our separate ways Jacko.
NZRU can go off and conquer the world, while Australia can finally get its act together as it does appear that domestic set ups is what they prefer. Lets do it.
'Curse the money all you want' but RA must work out what it wants from Super Rugby - otherwise the game is doomed
But that 80% of income comes at a cost, the whole game is structured for the Wallabies. Everything is sacrificed for the Wallabies, you prevent the domestic level to grow its financial base, so saying you can’t risk that revenue is a double pronged sword.
Because by not growing other revenues which we have seen have far greater potential, slowly that 80% becomes 80% of what.
'Curse the money all you want' but RA must work out what it wants from Super Rugby - otherwise the game is doomed
For the game to survive in Australia it needs to go domestic, because that is the biggest market that will ever be available to it.
Super Rugby has essentially doomed the code in this country, it is a competition structurally not fit for purpose as such is getting it’s a__e kicked by the other codes, and it is clear now that the same is happening in NZ.
People need to care about the competition, they are tribal in nature. Why do AFL/NRL work its not rocket science.
Rugby has two few professional teams in Australia, not two many. NSW rugby’s biggest market has one single team, it’s ludicrous.
Every week for the last 15 years there are articles about the structure, lack of support, cost of Super rugby it’s about the only constant in the game, yet everything changes except the one change that will actually do something, why???
'Curse the money all you want' but RA must work out what it wants from Super Rugby - otherwise the game is doomed
Super rugby has been nothing short of a disaster for the code in this country, if anyone hasn’t or is to blind to notice.
Yep, more teams, more tribalism, more local interest.
'They've got to have some trust': DC's vision for star trio as Jorgo says gold jersey '100%' fuelled decision to stay
Exactly
'Previous chairman can not be a scapegoat': First salvo fired in bid to spill the Rugby Australia board
It has, as always been a cash grab to sustain a certain level of lifestyle, the problem with this is the game is essentially living of a credit card and without growing a genuine domestic base like the other codes (regardless of whether they do not have an international component) is your are running out of supporters/fans to fund this as they have chosen the other codes who care more for there support base.
The problem rugby has is things like Lions tours and World cup sugar hits also prevents any serious thought going into alternatives.
'Previous chairman can not be a scapegoat': First salvo fired in bid to spill the Rugby Australia board
Rugby has suffered from illusions of grandeur for 25 years here. Everything has been sacrificed for “Test Primacy” and the local domestic market has been ignored for the never ending pursuit of Global riches, which sadly never eventuate.
The biggest market that will ever be available to rugby here is Australia, if the code is to stupid to figure that out then it deserves to be where it is and the never ending decline will just continue.
'Previous chairman can not be a scapegoat': First salvo fired in bid to spill the Rugby Australia board
Nothing wrong with the Rebels, just the competition they are playing in.
Hurricanes put half-century on Rebels in ugly scoreline for embattled Super Rugby franchise as injuries add up
You have to grow that market something we have not done for 25 years now.
Shred of evidence ??? What about the bloody AFL/NRL what are they fantasy.
Those clubs are run on at a financial level the game can sustain, the market decides what financial level of the competition.
To grow a tree you first have to plant the seed. You cannot have a market unless you grow it.
Passionate, visceral, irrational tribalism is vital for any competition to succeed. Is a lack of it damaging Super Rugby?
And it is only now the NZRU are realizing there mistake with Super Rugby, by not evolving the original NRC into a genuine domestic competition they have sacrificed that as well.
No one is saying 27 unions needed to go professional, but by not evolving what was the original support base of Rugby and then with Super rugby trying to to turn it into some sort of world conquering global wtf, it like Australia is ending up in no man’s land.
Passionate, visceral, irrational tribalism is vital for any competition to succeed. Is a lack of it damaging Super Rugby?
The competitions make the money, not the clubs.
You need the market to invest in the competition, that makes those clubs sustainable.
Passionate, visceral, irrational tribalism is vital for any competition to succeed. Is a lack of it damaging Super Rugby?
That doesn’t grow the game, what so not appealing to the biggest market you will ever have, your domestic base. Because without them you don’t exist.?????
So how has Super rugby grown the game over the last 25 years with 6/7 countries and how many continents.
Insular. what part of a domestic competition is insular, you will still have cross over games.
Passionate, visceral, irrational tribalism is vital for any competition to succeed. Is a lack of it damaging Super Rugby?
“What we do here is absolute madness… yet they think if we just put more money in the comp will be ok….” Exactly, and now we don’t have any money, thanks Super Rugby.
Passionate, visceral, irrational tribalism is vital for any competition to succeed. Is a lack of it damaging Super Rugby?
I grew up in NZ Jacko, it is the countries national game. But shoving your head in the sand and pretending that everything is rosy, well that’s up to you.
But just like Aus they are finding out that if you don’t take care of your domestic market (don’t start me on the NPC) then you don’t have a future, regardless of how big a GLOBAL SPORT rugby is.
What the Rebels players should be demanding to know, as Twiggy's ex-rival throws a familiar hail Mary