The Roar
The Roar

Hoy

Roar Guru

Joined February 2009

21.9k

Views

10

Published

6.3k

Comments

Published

Comments

Roar Guru
Roar Guru

Video says much about Wallabies attitude

At the end of this article is a video of the Wallabies’ change room after the Welsh win. I love how, during the Lions’ tours, they have a camera in the change room to show you what happens before the match. And this is also a frank look at the dressing room after a good […]

Good write up…

I think your friend makes a good point… in a high pressure WC tourney, tight games work… but outside of that, it’s more miss than hit as other teams try things on… see what works and what doesn’t…

Thanks for letting us in on the convo.

'What the Boks can learn from Shane Warne': Fans dissect SA rugby's predicament

Just the one, and I am a bit late here…

Are South Africa now in danger of being the new Australia, as we were under Cheika… a coach whose whinging rubbed off onto the players and just created a bad attitude of “we can do no wrong”?

When you create a siege mentality, as the Saffas seem want to do at the moment, you want to be careful you don’t turn SO introspective that you refuse to see all reasonable criticism of your team. To continue doing the same unsuccessful thing over and over, under the guise of circling the wagons, is crazy…

The difference here is that in Australia, it was kind of limited to the playing group… we the fans, all thought the coach was a bit of a plonker…
But South Africa? It’s their media pundits, their fans, and their playing group… all rather crazily standing up regardless of any evidence to the contrary, thinking the world is out to get them and nothing is their fault ever.
Are they going down the rabbit hole to oblivion?

Get your questions in for Issue 27 of Coach's Corner

I think the fact that the Saffa ended up face down, fully extended is a VERY obvious indication that he was over extended and had no ability to support weight himself… The fact it happened several times was frustrating.

Coach’s Corner Issue 26: Is Dave Rennie thinking outside the 'Boks?

Pretty sure if they were in the squad from the beginning, it wouldn’t be an issue… they would be allowed in. Carter Gordon is here already.

Rugby Championship turnaround: What a difference a Quade makes

That year was the most outstanding year I have seen from a footballer… Hayne in 09 was another period were a bloke was untouchable… But Cooper’s 2011 for the Reds was something else. Boy oh Boy.

I think Cooper now has calmed down, no doubt, but he was always the best 5/8 in the country, whether he was selected or not.

Rugby Championship turnaround: What a difference a Quade makes

Thanks Nicholas.

I am so very pleased that Quade got to win the game for the Wallabies, even if his new found maturity wouldn’t allow him to get too excited because it was ONLY(?) a football game.

I am sad for what we have missed all these years in having a true 5/8 not playing for us.

Rugby Championship turnaround: What a difference a Quade makes

You can spend more, if you want.

A rapid Wallabies turnaround, and other non-Cooper observations

Scrum is right, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Aus wasn’t entirely to blame for the disbalance in benefits between us going there, and Kiwis coming to us.
Think of it as an attractive incentive… Given the number here, if it was more attractive, then more would come… and more would leave NZ… I doubt their government is that keen on this (despite recent protestations about benefits from the Kiwi pollies).
It is a harsh balance.

Citizen Quade: 'To not know if I could come home was a daunting feeling,' says 'grateful' star

Very true… They have shortened up quite a great deal and played through a lot better than panic and try to go around… Everyone knows Kerevi is probably going to tuck and run. It would behoof support to be short and off him close when he runs. Samu and Hooper made good metres off Kerevi’s offloads. It’s surprising our outside backs aren’t pushing forward off him as well.

A rapid Wallabies turnaround, and other non-Cooper observations

Bloody good deal actually… $80 for the double header! Great value.

A rapid Wallabies turnaround, and other non-Cooper observations

Agree, but then talking about the quick fix… I’d like to think we are talking about THE fix. Not the quick one… the alternative right now is doing more of the same picking NL, who can’t do what a superior 5/8 can… does that help anyone?
Sure, bring him along, nurse him… he needs to play UNDER QC I think… I’d bench him and/or play him at 12 to learn under a good 5/8.

A rapid Wallabies turnaround, and other non-Cooper observations

Thanks for that Brett.

I think a big contributing factor is the different style. It suits us to play against the Saffa game. It isn’t as helter skelter as the ABs. Sure they could have played better, but we settled into their game better, and took the kicks and absorbed their play better than we could against the ABs.

A rapid Wallabies turnaround, and other non-Cooper observations

Hooper’s game has come good again, and his captaincy has really improved immensely under Rennie. That is as big an indictment as I can think of the previous coaching regime we suffered under.

SA View: 'Rest of rugby world scratches our heads at dismissive treatment of Cooper'

I meant for future… if we hang our hat on him.. use the big, long kickers… I hate the box kick. I think the Wallabies use it poorly at the wrong time.

Get your questions in for Issue 26 of Coach's Corner

McDermott’s box kicks gained very little ground, and I was waiting for him to be charged down at any moment, like the week before. Wallabies have traditionally been very poor box kickers…

Either we improve the box kicking ability of our halfbacks, or crack them off… I haven’t seen much improvement over many years.

Get your questions in for Issue 26 of Coach's Corner

Stop the infatuation with box kicking from our 22! Get set, and once the ball is ready at the back, pass quickly to option kickers… Cooper/NL, Banks etc…

Get your questions in for Issue 26 of Coach's Corner

I cannot blame anyone on the team for anything that happened under Grahams coaching at the Reds… I fully blame the Reds organisation and indeed Graham himself to some extent, but mainly the Reds.
I REALLY blame Cheika for selecting Foley over Cooper all those times, and then, when Foley was really ordinary, picking Cooper, but putting Foley at 12 alongside him to get in the way.
I blame BT for casting Cooper away, and I enjoyed the middle finger salute Cooper gave by playing for Souths all that year.
But for poor man management, we could have had a very good 5/8 playing for us for over 10 years. To think he would not have been beneficial over the time he has been out is crazy.

SA View: 'Rest of rugby world scratches our heads at dismissive treatment of Cooper'

Yeah I think the Saffa scrum got overs for their “effort”… more often than not, their props were face down, full length on the ground, meaning they were over-extended and not supporting their weight/contact at all.
I am happy to be corrected, but I think they were milking a bit there with how they kept flopping down straight.

SA View: 'Rest of rugby world scratches our heads at dismissive treatment of Cooper'

His hands across stance was designed to bring his body through or something similar (or opposite?) from memory. I agree, his technique now looks very straightforward, and more fluid.

SA View: 'Rest of rugby world scratches our heads at dismissive treatment of Cooper'

I’ve got no issue with knowing the rule is “in all probability”, but I has concerns over the drop kick… now they have come out and said that anyone can drop kick from anywhere and it isn’t just for going for drop goals!! That is ridiculous.

WATCH: Were the Knights dudded by Parramatta's penalty try?

His kicking was really poor. There was no way we should enter a box kick duel with South Africa… many of his kicks barely found 10 metres of gain…

MATCH REPORT: 'He's a big game player. He said I've got it and he nailed it'

I don’t think the hill is as steep as that… they were beaten tonight but scored three tries to 1, playing minimal rugby… Yes, I know there are lots of different ways to play rugby and win, but winning ugly is better than losing ugly… and they lost by giving all their ball away.

They lost slowing the game down… it took De Jagger 5 minutes to tie his boot lace. It was like he was 5 years old again… it’s a calculated bet you can manipulate the clock to suit you, but if something goes wrong, you run out of time to actually win… sadly for the Boks, they were winning, but gave it up at the death.

Next week will be a good match again, and it could go either way.

MATCH REPORT: 'He's a big game player. He said I've got it and he nailed it'

South Africa play a very different game to the ABs. Very different.

Their style of “slow it down”, aids us more than the helter skelter of the ABs, using turnover ball and running at disorganised defences.
The Saffas like to show their dominance and grind you out, whereas the ABs like to trick you into their game.

There is nothing subtle about the Saffa game at all. It’s easier to prepare for, BUT, you’ve got to be equal to it. You know what’s coming and you have to meet it, or be smashed.

Well done Wallabies.

MATCH REPORT: 'He's a big game player. He said I've got it and he nailed it'

What choke? He kicked out on the full at the start of the game… I’ve seen Carter kick out on the full… What else?
He played as well as any other player that game didn’t he? What other errors did he make?

MATCH REPORT: 'He's a big game player. He said I've got it and he nailed it'

I recall the stats very heavily favoured Gill. I don’t think that year there was a single stat that Hooper trumped Gill, yet Hooper is the direction they went and the rest is history.

I have not been a Hooper fan. I have said for a long time, we will not win anything under Hooper. Exceptional footballer, but not they type of footballer that we need in the team (oddly).

This year, he has really exelled in all areas… captaincy the most. He has really improved his captaincy under Rennie. Under Cheika, it was woeful… some of the sourness rubbed off onto him, and he was at times… just horrendous to see captain. But this year, he is much better, and really, there is no other option.

WILL GENIA: 'I don't get the Hoops hate - he goes balls out for 80 minutes every time'

close