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Rusted on rugby fan - originally just Wallabies, Tahs, Marlins but in the last few years it's also Wallaroos and men/women's 7s just as important.

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Can’t wait to see the comments when this forum sees the announcement of the return of Ned Hannigan to the Tahs.

Waratahs lure former forward back from Japan

What Saturday’s game also reinforced 1000 fold is the importance of the forwards being competitive or dominant for the halves to be more comfortable, seem to have more time and play better.
(After a season following the Tahs the forwards were always on the backfoot so were the halves).

Wallabies break six-year series drought on the back of doing little things well

Geoff – a terrific read – way too many issues covered today that I have an opinion on.
Have come to the conclusion I really enjoy the June/July 3 Test series with teams from the NH. They seem a bit special/ memorable – on Saturday night during the game my now 20 yr old son messaged me photos of himself & a mate with the trophy (wearing a gold beret too) from 2014 when we went to the SFS to watch the French – couldn’t believe it was actually that long a go
And re Newscorp, it really irritates me that newscomau Sport section it has 11 Sports to click on, none are rugby but they did do a rugby article on Saturday night

The Wrap: Will Marika Koroibete’s red card be the making of the Wallabies?

Agree there is way too much negativity that rugby will be become an also ran sport.
There have been a lot of positives in recent times as you have highlighted but not sure if it will get back to the halcyon days. This isn’t being negative rather a reflection of Australian sport generally, a lot of sports have been unable to sustain the previous dominance they once had, for various reasons.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Agree, Australia hasn’t adapted, probably rested on their laurels from 2003, spent all their funds, add in the States not working together, plus unlike any other country in the world Australia has 2 other behemoth domestics footy codes NRL/AFL which sucks up a lot of talent – players, coaches, administration.
And yep rugby needs to get into more schools

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Maybe, but still don’t think that will return the Wallabies to the glory days some fans still expect.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

I don’t disagree with you in regards to developing proper pathways for players, that youngsters are signed too quickly (although it is challenging what to do when the NRL approaches 17/18 year olds.) And yes there needs to be more skill development.

But I will disagree with you re KB/Izzy, sure they had deficiencies but I enjoyed that they played with flair, it wasn’t completely structured or just running over someone. Let’s just say I’m a long time follower of rugby I remember as a kid the Ellas, Campese etc, you wanted them to get the ball and see what might happen – there was skill and agility, not just size and speed.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Must admit I don’t think of the Wallabies in terms of rankings etc, we just have to keep on battling. I do agree, unfortunately we are over exposed to NZ rugby, but not much we can do about it.
Most fans just want to see Australian teams being competitive (& preferably win), a lot of fans are really enjoying the French series, just as they did enjoy the Super Rugby AU.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

I’m sure it can be improved and hopefully it will bit by bit. My point basically was that the golden era of the mid 90s to early 2000s are not going to be replicated anytime soon, just like many other sports. That being said we can still enjoy our rugby and that includes the Wallabies.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Quade was exciting to watch, pity he wasn’t a Tah.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Agree have to still aim to continually improve and compete. And yes the online feedback is way over the top at times – its just a game.
And finally we could do with Nobody currently.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

RH – Pretty much agree with all you have said particularly in regard to optimising the limited resources rugby has available – rugby has lost its ability to innovate.
In saying that rugby in Australia isn’t the only sport to have become less competitive internationally. Arguably Australia hasn’t got a strong sports administration framework.
I do agree Rugby AU under Hamish is looking a lot better than it has over the last probably 10 years, so hear is hoping for further improvement.
Am still looking forward to Saturdays game on Ch 9’s main channel, hoping for a good game and a Wallabies win !!

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

KC,
A long post – almost an article in itself – have to say I agree, disagree, & don’t follow parts.
The context of the article is that rugby in Australia reflects sport generally in Australia and its international competitiveness. It wasn’t a Rugby v League debate. Whilst I appreciate your passion for the Kangaroos (& I watch League) I would classify League more a domestic footy code than an international one & there is nothing wrong with that look at the success of AFL. League also has its strength in club tribalism & the SOO.
Agree rugby has competition for talent and $$ from NRL/AFL which it will never overcome and I don’t think it is trying to.
The idea the 2 codes could combine in WA or anywhere rightly or wrongly will never happen.
Yep Rugby rules are an issue & always will be, especially the Advantage rule is (in nice terms) very ‘annoying’.
As for the Test v SOO game comparison, I enjoyed watching both but will say I was more invested in the rugby match as the Series was still on the line. Also I enjoy watching new players I don’t know in action. Unfortunately a lot of people can’t seem to enjoy both codes, it is always an either/or.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

TT, the article had nothing to do specifically about the French game per se. In fact it was written the other week and was just topped and tailed with reference to the French Test series after game 2. I think the French team is playing some terrific Test rugby.
But yes the Wallabies need some line bending forwards.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Thanks RB – its an issue that I have pondered the last few years – a combination of reassessing our sporting expectations but also the need to develop our structures & management so when we obtain a competitive advantage how can we sustain it longer.
Rugby administration has a lot to answer for.
And yep stop the continual stupid decisions, not just by rugby but other sports as well.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Agree the administration in rugby has been very poor for a long time. So not only is sport including rugby much more competitive internationally rugby has the bonus of poor administration.
Don’t get me venting about the Tahs’ administration again, especially in regards to how it will stunt the development of many of the young players. Will Harrison must be looking at Noah and thinking he will be at least 2 seasons behind in development, all thanks to the previous coaching and management.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

No doubt the players and team can perform better and at a higher level – I do agree play is very structured these days, I really enjoy watching players with footy smarts. There really isn’t any player in the backline (except Marika) who I get excited when they get the ball. Without getting into a heated debate it was exciting when KB and Izzy got the ball.
Not sure we are celebrating mediocrity, just need to recognise where we are at. The issue is not just a rugby issue, we are less competitive in a lot of sports these days.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

Not sure we will slip to Fiji/ Georgia level. If we develop a better club system and pathways I think we will continue to find it very difficult beating the big teams on a regular basis. It just seems we find it difficult to sustain a competitive advantage in most sports.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

I tend to agree with you, unfortunately the narrative by a lot of fans seems to be that that era should be the norm. It may well be they became supporters during that period as a consequence that is their expectation.

'No longer a leader': Do Wallabies fans need to adjust their expectations?

I tend to agree everyone seems to be more binary than ever & never happy. I agree take the win, enjoy a win, look for the positives. Personally I just reveled during the game and post game in the efforts of Koroibete, am such a fan.

For some reason supporters seem to have shorter attention spans, no sooner is the game over then it is who needs to be replaced, who needs to be a starter. Also as you say people seem vindicated if a player plays poorly, that I don’t understand. As for Gordon, sure not his best game, I am biased so would stick with him but in reality I will stick with Rennie’s decisions – he is the expert.

Wallabies fans, relax. We won

Unfortunately I think Banks is a terrific Super Rugby player but doesn’t quite have it at the international level. He is solid but he really hasn’t shown anything significant at this stage and he has played a few games now. In saying that not sure who would replace him Hodge/ Kellaway?, neither of them inspire me either.

Can the Wallabies bank on Banks?

As a Tahs supporter and having experienced the season we have had, I was surprisingly comfortable throughout the game, a loss by only 1 point would have been something to treasure. So a win was an emotion I hadn’t experienced for a long long time.

Guts and grit: How Wallabies won a game they've lost so many times before

Agree absolutely professional. You look at his non-stop efforts in attack and defence and you just wish other players did the same. It is also a reminder that even if you may not have the high levels of natural skills/talent, character & effort can get you there.

Why the modern game has no place for a winger with clean shorts

I think Rugby AU will need to change the Gits Law for him to come back for the Wallabies

Why the modern game has no place for a winger with clean shorts

Well any assistance for Fiji whatever the form is good, if it helps rugby great , if it helps Super Rugby even better.

How Super W can continue to improve

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