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Rusted on rugby fan - originally just Wallabies, Tahs, Marlins but in the last few years it's also Wallaroos and men/women's 7s just as important.

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I think its time to move on but sure try and get some sort of compensation, although it is unlikely to be successful as it would just drag on for months/ years and earn the lawyers a lot of $$$$.

The main issue is the disappointment, 2020 is a tough year on so many levels. Where possible everyone is generally trying to help each other out and that includes sport who like many businesses finances are tight and are struggling – so the South Africa decision (with or without conspiracy) is a feeling of being let down during a tough time. But just have to suck it up but never forget it.
(Sure NZ are planning on going it alone next year but no one really knows what 2021 will look like so its not comparable.)

The quick questions: Blame games and compensation claims

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It is a tough decision especially if the Foxtel deal is for 3-5 years – always nice to know your revenues in business. But its not my business so I would punt on Ch 9.
However am still wondering about Foxtel and their club championship model I understand they were very keen on it.

Nine reportedly enters rugby broadcast frame with bid for TV and streaming rights

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I had actually been watching the Trump rally in Arizona, always a fascinating watch.

Nine reportedly enters rugby broadcast frame with bid for TV and streaming rights

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It’s all so funny, a story about 9 Entertainment bidding for rugby in a 9 Entertainment masthead – so next will be an article or 2 in Newscorp papers bagging rugby or referring to rugby’s desperation.
It is really a sad state of affairs that all media is basically split between 2 media organisations with some level of agenda. I guess all we can do is cross our fingers and see what the outcome is because the media will not provide an objective perspective.
I just hope there is some FTA coverage, that is desperately needed.
Note: Coincidence, this morning on the CH9 Today Show the sports section of the news included coverage of Tri-Nations and Caleb Clarke – not sure what was said as the sound was turned down.

Nine reportedly enters rugby broadcast frame with bid for TV and streaming rights

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It may well be what is best for them, I’m just cynical. And for info I would say NZ Rugby’s dealings have been with arrogance as well.

The Wrap: Player welfare no concern as All Blacks take it up a notch in Auckland

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I’m of the view that the Sth African ‘player welfare’ was just an easy issue to use in the current environment, but the bottom line is SA are the World Champs so rightly or wrongly with a bit of arrogance they can do what they like and we have to suck it up. The decision being made last minute was a poor look but being fair & nice isn’t the norm in the world these days – self interest dominates. It’s just a pity, we were contemplating going up to Newcastle for a double header.

As for the game on the weekend, well we played poorly but not atrociously. With Toomua likely to be out probably will have to bring DHP into fullback whether you go with inexperience at fly half or 12, need another old head in the backline – I don’t think Banks did himself any favours.

The Wrap: Player welfare no concern as All Blacks take it up a notch in Auckland

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Whilst I’m cynical re the player welfare issue as the reason, if true credit to them for putting players above $$$, (unless they have $$$ coming from elsewhere). And yep agree don’t understand the comments re getting another team, its just not realistic or possible.

OFFICIAL: South Africa are out as Rugby Championship reverts to Tri-Nations for 2020

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That’s pretty disappointing, although probably not surprising. Its very uncool to leave it so late but maybe that was to make a statement.
While I thought we could get the Wallabies v ABs up and running, I was always skeptical about SA and Argentina in the current environment.

OFFICIAL: South Africa are out as Rugby Championship reverts to Tri-Nations for 2020

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Well I guess this why Rennie is paid the big $$$$. While I love a big country lad, not sure he has the footy smarts Samu has. Anyway we will not know until after the game on Sunday – if we win Rennie is the messiah, if we lose the posters here will blame Hannigan. Come on Sunday !!

Ned Hanigan returns as Dave Rennie makes four changes to Wallabies team for Bledisloe 2

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No they were not the hardest characters but they are very big fans of League but that wasn’t enough to try League out.
It can always be debated, I think rugby is a much more complicated and technical game, that requires a range of body shapes and requires a high level of toughness, especially these days with the emphasis on physicality around the ruck. Will add there is a huge amount of physical pressure on the front row which League players have no understanding of.
In saying that I still think the structure and simplicity of the League game of literally running straight into the opposition, multiple tacklers, wrestle techniques, the high tackling technique results in it being a harder game physically on the body plus your average player plays more games at that intense level.

Will there ever be another Aussie dual code international?

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Also the Parra 5/8 Dylan Brown said last week playing for the All Blacks would be the ultimate. While unlikely Ponga from Newcadtle would like to play for the ABs too.

Will there ever be another Aussie dual code international?

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You are probably right there won’t be many dual internationals going forward. In reality it will only ever be League players moving to Rugby, for rugby players there are too many opportunities to play overseas. Even huge League fans Quade Cooper and Beale didn’t try League, it’s too hard in terms of the physicality.
Obviously those schoolboy rugby players may return to rugby but it doesn’t have as much pull as the All Blacks do, a lot of the NZ League players would love to play for the All Blacks.

Will there ever be another Aussie dual code international?

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Bobby, well done your click bait comment got me, pretty sure she earns more money playing 7s full time than a month of League, so it isn’t about the money.
So I guess from your perspective the other 13-14 players in the NRLW who play rugby (7s & 15s) aren’t welcome back including the Wallaroos captain. A bit of an unrealistic and old fashion view but you are welcome to it.

Roosters lose Charlotte Caslick for rest of NRLW

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Well even though I was keen to see the women give League a go, getting injured was my greatest fear. On the League side it will be pretty difficult for the Roosters to win the grand final now, Caslick was a standout for them.

Roosters lose Charlotte Caslick for rest of NRLW

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A cracking game – four very minor take outs for me.
Whilst not really a Banks fan, credit where it is due, thought he had a good game. I was pleased to see Gordon in the action, he was on for longer than he expected and held his own in the last few minutes of helter skelter. While it was a draw Hoops in the post match was disappointed & frustrated but he had a smile and a chuckle – just a bit different for him. Lastly it was great to see on Twitter during the game & post game comments by a lot of traditionally non-rugby people who don’t normally comment – it shows there is still an underlying support for the Wallabies from a wide range of people who want the Wallabies to do well and get real enjoyment from a game of rugby.

The Wrap: Eight and a half crazy minutes light up the Bledisloe Cup

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That’s a very complicated question – a big issue is rugby not being on free to air TV. In regards to scrums/ mauls, yep scrum resets are a problem, again a complicated issue but will say League and rugby are very different games – the core of rugby is the continual battle for possession be it scrums, line outs or mauls. On the other hand League is like NFL each team getting the opportunity to run plays. Just different.

It's a Bledisloe weekend, but watch the women too

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Fair enough, great to have options isn’t it. For info the Bledisloe game was a cracker.

It's a Bledisloe weekend, but watch the women too

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Well it is lucky you don’t have to watch them play, life is full of choices.

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I think the main issue would be the physicality as opposed to fitness as the 7s girls are super fit, noting there are not too many rugby girls in the forwards. All the 7s girls have noted the need to slowdown and be patient. It’s a great experience for them. As for successful transitions really don’t know why except the players are probably highly talented and probably would be successful in any sport.

It's a Bledisloe weekend, but watch the women too

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Personally I Iike her getting the ball in her hands as often as possible but in reality have only seen her play 1 game where she spent a fair amount of time at centre. So let’s see how she goes at fullback, actually thought Shanice Parker had a very very good game at fullback when she took over.

It's a Bledisloe weekend, but watch the women too

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Thanks, I actually follow both codes. It was just an article promoting the women – The Roar as a forum is pretty male centric so from time to time like to give the rugby women a bit of recognition. As you say in both codes girls/women comps are the growth areas so should get some support.
We have been following the women’s 7s squad for around 6-7 years and they have been great to see them develop. I agree there is no value expanding the NRLW too quickly and frankly I’m fine if the 7s women play in it if it fits. I’m sure RA when it gets its $$$ sorted, will be looking at the NRLW players as well.

It's a Bledisloe weekend, but watch the women too

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A fair way forward, hopefully they will be competitive again in my lifetime – anyway will still be supporting them .

It's a Bledisloe weekend, but watch the women too

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It’s interesting a lot of people follow both codes but it is interesting how often it becomes a ‘them v us’ .

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Really wasn’t having a shot at NZR, was just restating what Honey Hireme said following a comment by Isaac Luke to get some NZ 7s player .
Agree NZ has a terrific 15s provincial set up.
Yes was hoping the Wallaroos would have had a few games, they had 6 Tests planned pre covid but I think Rugby AU is in so much $$$ strife all the focus was on getting up the Super AU and Tests.
At this stage 7s is full time so they probably will stick to that until NRLW has some more $$ to pay them. I would expect a bit of a turnover of the 7s players after the Olympics anyway.

It's a Bledisloe weekend, but watch the women too

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Thanks – It’s actually in both sections. With the Wallaby team announced today I didn’t expect much interest. There are very few articles re: the women (union & league) so thought why not knock out a few words.

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