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Former New Zealand journalist teaching in Istanbul. Fave teams - Canes and Jags. Can be found chatting live about rugby here in my free time: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/roonbafr/wingman-s-global-briefs-t3372.html

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Agreed. Main interest there will be whether Namibia can finally get a win at the tournament when they face the struggling Canadians…

More to Russian defeat than met the eye

& a report on the state of African rugby from J’burg’s New Frame: https://www.newframe.com/rugby-on-the-up-in-africa/

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Indeed.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

& just for a laugh :laughing: Wales atop the rankings: https://www.world.rugby/news/444110

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

& Heineken Cup apparently pulls plug on sponsorship of Spanish rugby: http://ferugby.es/noticias2.php?titulo=Comunicado%20de%20la%20FER%20sobre%20la%20Divisi%C3%B3n%20de%20Honor

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Oh, that link didn’t seem to work. Here it is: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/rwc-2019-glaring-flaws-in-japan-schedule-remain-1.3988668?fbclid=IwAR2cg66ZXtEYkLNboPWy8aF-fvEk_BFAY2Q_X2nxE1SIwJDuO4lunhb9Qes#.XVpw9tmk0h0.facebook

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Why the World Cup must go to 24 teams:

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Of those only Argentina’s win over Ireland surprised me personally, if mostly for the wide margin rather than the result. International rugby has about 90% predictability. But at least a quarter of the games don’t end up in draws like soccer and cricket.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Depends on the gauge. I certainly doubt it’s 9th in terms of player participation. Not if we include individual sports and non-team games. But for spectator interest, which I believe was the basis of the vlog involved, I think rugby probably is in the top 10, if mainly due to its World Cup.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

The way players of Pacific Island origin were beginning to come through for the All Blacks and run riot on the international stage, we all assumed many more super stars of the Lomu variety would follow. That hasn’t quite transpired, though there have certainly been some great players. But Lomu was indeed one-of-a-kind, and that’s been borne out over the past quarter of a century.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Yes, the World Cup has been a spectacular success, but it would be a mistake to take this for granted. It needs to continue evolving, expand, bring in new teams and become more competitive. A 24 team format with six pools of 4 would be a far more attractive model than the current one with its unequal scheduling, protracted group stages and recurring playoffs scenarios. & it needs to be spread around more countries.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

You won’t make much picking the winners. In rugby it’s mostly about the margins.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Uganda 38 Zambia 22

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

& American football actually only has 11 players per team. But the keep running on and off all the time, making it seem like more!

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Cheers, Stillmissit. My article was intended to be analytical, which requires a certain amount of critique. Most of my articles haven’t been along these lines, I think it’s fair to say.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Aside from Japan’s exploits and the host nation’s early exit, I don’t remember too many surprises. There were a few near misses, however, including 2 in the quarterfinals.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

It’s definitely an acquired taste, like cricket. You need to grow up with it to really appreciate it.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Yes, I’m aware of what’s going on there. Makes me wonder how they found the money to send the Jags development team to SA for the Currie Cup though. Just seems that, no matter how rough the economy gets, Argentina rugby just keeps finding ways to compete in all sorts of intercontinental championships.

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

I think the poor attendances for Super Rugby had a lot to do with an increasing Kiwi domination, and adding a couple of easybeats like the Kings and Sunwolves was a big mistake. The competition is still recovering. But the success of the Jags in reaching this year’s final may have helped revive some of the interest.

BTW, their development team just won against in the Currie Cup first division and are headed for the semis. Maybe it is time for that 2nd Argentinian franchse . . .

Too many players, too complex and not enough stars of the Lomu variety

Got it from the Roon ba forum:

10-Mar-1990 Queensland Country 21-22 Soviet Union [at Townsville]
14-Mar-1990 North Queensland 10-25 Soviet Union [at Cairns]
18-Mar-1990 Queensland B 40-17 Soviet Union [at Brisbane]
21-Mar-1990 Canberra Kookaburras 44- 6 Soviet Union [at Canberra]
25-Mar-1990 Queensland 26-10 Soviet Union [at Brisbane]
28-Mar-1990 Sydney 35- 4 Soviet Union [at Sydney

Wallabies well poised to double down on All Blacks

Two Kenyan Rugby players convicted of gang raping a female musician last year have been sentenced to 15 years imprisonment. This is actually the minimum sentence if found guilty of such a crime. The sentence was set to be handed down last Friday but the court pushed it to today. Olaba and Wanyama have both represented Kenya at 7s. https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2019/08/rugby-players-alex-olaba-frank-wanyama-sentenced-to-15-years-in-jail-for-gang-rape/

The world's most rugby-mad nation - by players per capita

Just a long shot here, but does anyone remember the details of the Soviet Union’s tour to Australia in 1990? All I recall is they beat Q’Land Country 22-21 first up. Also, wasn’t there an incident at the end of the tour where a TV viewer managed to get a couple of Soviet players disciplined after writing a letter of complaint to the touring management?

Wallabies well poised to double down on All Blacks

Campo will always be the people’s choice!

Campese misses NSW Waratahs coaching role

450 million fans does seem a tad fanciful. I’m not sure where these figures come from. Meanwhile, a number of the other sports have the advantage of being mainstream in one of the world’s three most populous nations – cricket and field hockey in India, ping pong in China and both basketball and baseball in the US. Even American football has over a million registered players at high school level, though rugby’s 2.3 million players overall heads it off as the second most played football code behind soccer. Rugby probably has more of a global spread as well, with over 100 nations affiliated to World Rugby now, and one of the requirements being organized domestic competition. I would imagine that, among team sports, only soccer and (possibly) basketball have more of a global spread than rugby.

I mentioned above one of the main challenges rugby faces, in my view. Another would be the predictability of international competition with relatively few upsets at the top level. Of course, there are surprises, as we saw just last weekend – and also at the last World Cup where Japan caused one of the biggest shocks ever. People are still talking about that game, and with good reason. Those kind of upsets are extremely rare in rugby. At the 2003 RWC, for example, there was precisely one upset from 48 games – Australia’s defeat of NZ. It was mind-numbing. Most of us can pick rugby’s winners with at least 90% accuracy, so that the main interest in any prediction league will always be the winning margins. A sport needs to be competitive in order to maintain maximum public interest, but rugby’s show piece tournament is by and large a lopsided affair.

Of course, the game as a spectacle needs to considered as well. A lot of the individual artistry which characterized rugby in the amateur era has disappeared and been replaced by a power-based game, as many foresaw at the outset of professionalism. The constant re-setting of scrums is also a poor advertisement, while the most tedious aspect (IMHO) are the repetitive attempts to wriggle across from a scrum or ruck at close range, eventually culminating in a try that no one could actually see due to the multitude of bodies piled on top of the ball-carrier. I’m not sure if everyone sees it this way, and I certainly don’t claim to have the answers. World Rugby is actively engaged in trying to make the game safer and more entertaining, trying out new laws on a regular basis.

The world's most rugby-mad nation - by players per capita

The Samoan Observer has run a report about this article :stoked: https://www.samoaobserver.ws/category/samoa/47441?fbclid=IwAR3MtY_1Te52KmFSGMuudd4qBn9CT3PHm1raHOpiQsDT3Esi870E8xCQ9K0

The world's most rugby-mad nation - by players per capita