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Deans is right. Let this Pacific league get underway and watch it develop. A few years down the line the Kiwis and Aussies might be begging to get involved. Maybe they could have a sort of “Super Bowl” final between the Super Rugby winner and the Pacific champ if it does take off.

Deans backs Sunwolves for Rapid Rugby

Super Rugby needs to keep its feet on the ground. There needs to be a much stricter criteria for new teams. The competition must remain strong and competitive. They gave into emotional blackmail from outside the competition, and they gave in to petty provincialism from within. They need to bring back the geographical names if they want to sell it to an international audience. The conference system really wasn’t the problem. Super Rugby just tried to be the NFL without anything that makes the NFL awesome.

SANZAAR's Sunwolves decision is all dollars and no sense

81 I do remember. In fact, it was the first test series I’d ever seen. My older sister went out and joined the protests (in Wellington) while I stayed home and watched the games. That’s pretty much the way it was!

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

I remember the news highlights and being inspired to dive around the furniture with a cushion in my arms! But I was too small to appreciate what was happening.

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

That was only intended as a personal observation. Of course I have no idea what the majority of New Zealanders thought.

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

Indeed.

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

Even in NZ, most people seemed to think BG and Bernie were Maori, but they were actually Samoan and half-Fijian respectively, of course.

Incidentally there was a player of partial African-American ancestry, Alan Blake, who got a run for the All Blacks in 1949 while the main team was touring South Africa. He got to play for the Maori as well, apparently!!

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

The Jaguares are staying and deservedly so. But that’s going to be a lot of travel!

SANZAAR should show some love in the Asia-Pacific

SANZAAR handling things with the usual lack of aplomb. ???? although I think they’ve made the right decision overall:

BREAKING: Sunwolves forced to play one more year of Super Rugby before being axed

Well, the Boks won a series in New Zealand in 1937. The All Blacks did not avenge that until 1990s. The Boks also whitewashed the All Blacks 4-0 in 1949. That’s how they got ahead. I personally thought they were the better side in 81 as well, but that was a tumultuous series and very difficult for both teams. The Cavaliers series involved many of the same players, in fact, and was won decisively by the hosts. Meanwhile, the Springboks had managed four consecutive grandslams before the All Blacks got their first, and were unbeaten in a series throughout the entire first half of the 20th century. So I think the 20-15 head-to-head record in favour of the Bosk in the pre-World Cup era was a pretty fair indication.

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

Thanks, Muzzo. Danie Craven was one of the stars of the Springboks’ series victory in New Zealand in 1937. I don’t think the All Blacks had ever seen dive-passing before, and he kept them on the back foot.

Personally I think the quotas were necessary to break down some barriers. For a while they didn’t seem to be making any progress at all, and it’s going to take an awful long time to change the way non-white players think about the game.

But now we are seeing real progress, with a fully integrated team, including a non-white captain lately. This is very encouraging and I am more a fan of the Boks now than ever, irrespective of results. I’m just gutted South Africa weren’t awarded the 2023 World Cup, as that would have been another massive step forward for rugby on the continent, as was the highly memorable tournament of 1995.

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

Joe Karam and Matthew Ridge were of Arab and Armenian ancestry, respectively. I was going to work that in somewhere but didn’t quite manage it. Both were fullbacks who switched to league in their prime. Karam was of Lebanese-Irish parentage.

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

Yes, like so many of them (Nepia, Lomu et al), BG peaked early and was at his best on that tour, setting some kind of try-scoring record, I believe.

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

Oops. George Nepia. Must have had the Lelos on my mind . . .

The ethnic diversity of the All Blacks

Twiggy’s Pacific tournament reminds me of the old CANZ series which got off the ground as a rival to the South Pacific Series in the late 80s, early 90s. CANZ involved Otago, Waikato and Northland from New Zealand, a Canadian team and a couple of Argentinean sides from memory. It helped bring about a more inclusive Super Rugby league anyway.

Sunwolves did not belong in Super Rugby. They were rubbish, geographically misaligned, and didn’t involve too many Japanese national players anyway. Besides which the Japanese themselves had been looking at dispensing with the team and possibly just fielding their top club side in Super Rugby (which would’ve veen disastrous). I think it would make a lot more sense for them to stick that team in the Twiggy comp.

SANZAAR should show some love in the Asia-Pacific

Main concern about returning to round-robin is it will be an absolute killer for the Jaguares.

Australia rugby 'concerned' over Sunwolves' demise

The entire country should revert to indigenous place names, as far as I’m concerned. There was never any valid reason to change them. But that’s another story.

Crusaders want patience over name change

Super Rugby is either a Southern Hemisphere championship or its meaningless.

Sunwolves reportedly axed from Super Rugby

The Sunwolves were basically forced on Super Rugby by World Rugby to help prepare the Japanese for this year’s World Cup, and in doing so caused irreparable damage to the image of the Southern Hemisphere club championship. So it’s not surprising the move comes at this time, and no doubt we will be back to a round-robin Super 14 next year.

Sunwolves reportedly axed from Super Rugby

The Canterbury Cardinals?

Or perhaps not . . .

NZ government backs Crusaders on potential name change

Yes, Romania had a string of wins against France in their annual derbies back in the late 70s and early 80s, so Wales headed over there out of curiosity – and got thumped. Next up Scotland, straight off the grandslam, suffered the same fate! So suddenly everyone was talking about not Italy, but Romania for an expanded ‘6 Nations.’ Unfortunately, a nasty civil war followed the collapse of communism and I believe a number of the Oaks’ stars gave their lives to that cause. Meanwhile, funding dried up, freedom arrived, and Hagi performed miracles at the FIFA World Cup, so that rugby’s numbers had plummeted even before the game turned pro. However, it should be added that Georgia does not have particularly large playing numbers either, according to World Rugby stats, and is largely dependent on its foreign-based pros.

Georgia undefeated in Europe's 'other' Six Nations

Spain had a 33-10 win in Germany to come second to Georgia this year; their best finish for a long while. It is indeed a pity Los Leones won’t be in Japan, though they only have themselves to blame for that. Still, another argument in favour of World Cup expansion, as Romania won’t be there for the same reason. The Oaks thumped Belgium’s ‘Black Devils’ at the weekend, 43-17.

I got to see a little of Portugal hammering the Swiss via the ENC site’s live stream, and also The Dutch late show against the Czechs. The latter led throughout the game but were forced to defend for the entire last 10 minutes, which culminated in the winning score for the visitors in orange. Tough luck, Czechia!

Meanwhile Martinique hammered Barbados 43-19. They are not currently affiliated to World Rugby and apparently a few of their boys might have been ineligible had it been an official World Rugby fixture. It does count in Americas North competition, however. Next up they host Curacao. Cayman Islands, meanwhile, are hosting New Jersey’s Princeton University this week.

In club rugby The Indian Ocean champs got underway with Madagascar’s FTM blitzing Mayotte’s Desperadors 120-22 and Reunion’s Saint-Pierre downing Highland Blues of Mauritius 33-13.

Georgia undefeated in Europe's 'other' Six Nations

Probably a good idea. Christchurch is a small, close-knit community and will not forget this racist massacre of Muslims within its own environs. Having a Super Rugby team named after Christian marauders who attacked the Middle East is obviously controversial right now.

NZ government backs Crusaders on potential name change

Yes, this was a vast superior Argentina XV to the ones we have seen the past couple of years, while the US really were a disappointment. After that win over Scotland last year, and narrow victory over the Samoans in Spain, I was starting to think the Eagles were on the brink of the big-time. I’m sure it’ll come if MLR continues to develop, but we may have to wait another decade or two for that to really come to fruition. Meanwhile, I understand South America is planning to set up its own version of MLR, with Brazil and possibly Colombia also involved.

Global rugby wrap: Argentina B, Fiji Warriors, Georgia and Bermuda reign supreme

Depends on the game, Abdul. The ENC web-site shows all games live, so that’s easy, while World Rugby’s official site shows ARC and Pacific Challenge fixtures. But the rest just come up randomly, often on the official Facebook page of the host union.

Global rugby wrap: Argentina B, Fiji Warriors, Georgia and Bermuda reign supreme