A disturbance in the Force: China set to shake up world rugby
Last weekend, China booked their place at the Olympics.
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Last weekend, China booked their place at the Olympics.
The Six Nations begin to resemble Wile E. Coyote with their collective failures at the Rugby World Cup.
I have to confess I did not watch the World Cup final live. That would have required time off work and a trip to the Irish Bar. All possible, of course. I’ve done it before, although I was unable to get either a seat or a beer during the 2011 decider.
The international rugby community’s attention will be fixed on the World Cup semi-finals this weekend, with many wondering if the Brits can defy the odds and set up an unprecedented all-northern hemisphere final.
South Africa’s Bitzbok top the bill as the Safari Sevens return to Nairobi this weekend, thanks to a lucrative sponsorship deal with Kenya Breweries Limited.
In reaching the quarter-finals for the first time, Japan have single-handedly hauled this World Cup out of the flames of disaster.
Japan stands on the brink of qualification for the World Cup quarter-finals after victories over Russia, Ireland and Samoa, but still needs to get by Scotland to be assured of its place. Scotland was its nemesis in 2015 – when the Blossoms also won three times – most famously against South Africa.
It has been said that the ‘real’ World Cup begins with the quarter-finals. That is because the tournament is invariably confined by this stage to the first tier teams, with perhaps one exception.
The Rugby World Cup’s expansion from sixteen teams to twenty after just three tournaments appeared premature, to say the least, but it also gave a clear indication that the emphasis was on growth, ahead of quality.
Nothing livens up a World Cup tournament like upsets, and while Fiji were one of the main hopes to produce a surprise in Japan after their stunning win over France last year, few would have expected them to be on the receiving end.
Back in the day, it was fashionable for teams to include stop-off Tests in minor rugby-playing nations during overseas tours, and this undoubtedly helped the development of the sport in those places.
Zimbabwe won the Victoria Cup on Saturday with a 41-5 defeat of Zambia in Lusaka. The four-nation tournament was revived this year after the cancellation of the African championships.
World Cup-winning All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has blamed World Rugby for failing to stand up to the Six Nations and force through its Nations Cup proposal, thereby depriving teams like Tonga of the regular exposure to first-tier rugby they require.
One question that has certainly been settled in the World Cup era is that of hemispheric dominance.
The tiny island of Nauru made its international debut with an 89-5 loss to hosts Papua New Guinea in the Oceania Championships last weekend, then followed up with a 61-7 reversal against the Solomon Islands midweek.
Tiny Nauru made its Test debut in an 89-5 loss to Papua New Guinea on Friday, Zimbabwe got one hand on Africa’s Victoria Cup with a 32-26 win over Uganda and Mexico stunned Paraguay 35-27 in Colombia.
Russia were beaten by Italy in their World Cup warm-up fixture at San Benedetto del Tronto last weekend, predictably enough, though it appears there may have been a little more to the Azzurri’s one-sided victory than met the eye.
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If player numbers per capita are an accurate gauge, the most rugby-mad nation in the world is not three-time World Cup winner New Zealand, double champion South Africa or Northern Hemisphere stronghold Wales.
May the best team win at the Rugby World Cup in Japan this year, but preferably that won’t be the All Blacks.
Fantastic news! Georgia invited to the 2020 Currie Cup. Yes, this would be the competition the Jaguares’ Development team won in a canter this year, effectively the South African 2nd division. I don’t believe there was any prospect of promotion, meaning the South Americans should meet the Lelos next year. Namibia withdrew this season for financial reason, but were involved the year before that, mostly getting thrashed week in, week out.
Kenya were invited some years ago though it never transpired, as far as I know, presumably also for financial reasons, and big & strong as they made be, the Simbas have undeniably gone backward since then. Zimbabwe edged them to win the revived Victoria Cup this rear, and the Sables are of course much closer geographically (pre-independence Rhodesia having been a regular participant). But again it is a question of standards and finances – particularly the latter. Zimbabwe is still involved in SA club and age-grade competitions, at least, including Craven Week, I believe.
Meanwhile, we all know Georgia has world class forwards, but this will be an opportunity to develop their back play on those hard, sunbaked grounds. With the Fijian Drua already playing in Australian domestic competition, and Uruguay interacting with Argentina at club level, perhaps the onus should now be on NZ to include Samoa & Tonga in its national provincial championships
Too right Richie! World Rugby need to get a grip on time-sucking scrums
2020s Wish List
1 2023 World Cup – Les Bleus triumph, gli Azzurri make 1/4s, Welwitschias win a game, Spain qualifies – scores a try!
2 2027 & 2031 World Cups awarded to SA & USA, respectively (announcement due 2021).
3 2027 World Cup – expansion to 24, Brazil, Kenya & a 2nd Asian team qualify. SA v NZ finale to determine first 4-time winner.
4 Samoa to reach 2020 Olympics, Chinese women to win a medal
5 Les Bleus to win a 6 Nations title or three. Gli Azzurri to finish in the top half of the table and win a title by end of decade.
6 Super Rugby to add a Pacific Island franchise. Canes build a dynasty. Move over, Saders!
7 Rapid Rugby to prosper and expand, drawing in teams from NZ, Japan, China & South Asia, and perhaps a Hawaiian-based franchise.
8 MLR to prosper and expand, moving to bigger stadiums and prime-time TV. Move over, NFL!
9 SLAR to prosper and expand, at least double the number of teams – including Porto Alegre!
10 More 3rd tier African players pick up pro contracts in Europe, perhaps filling the void if Pacific Islanders flock to GRR and the new Japanese pro league.
11 Tier 1 nations to include tests against 2nd and 3rd tier nations on tours. ie Namibia en route to SA, Uruguay en route to Argentina, Georgia en route to 6 Nations, Pacific Islands en route to/in NZ & Aussie.
12 6 Nations to merge with ENC with inclusion of promo-relegation fixture. Pacific Islands to merge with Asian Top 3 (including Japan).
Collective failure of the Six Nations
Awards of the Decade
Just to get the ball rolling. Feel free to add your own choices and categories.
Event of the Decade: Olympics 7s. Fiji’s emphatic win the stuff of fairy-tales
Honorable mention: 2019 RWC, despite the typhoons, produced a stunning final, Japan’s own success and Uruguay’s surprise win over Fiji.
Disappointment: African Gold Cup, lopsided results, acrimony between teams, administrative manipulation leading to eventual collapse
Match of the Decade: 2019 World Cup final, had it all, minor upset in terms of result, non-white captain and try-scorers – Boks’ first ever tries in a final.
Honorable mention: Japan’s win over Boks at 2015 RWC might just have been the biggest upset ever.
Disappointment: More than one of the play-off games at the 2011 RWC spring to mind, but I’ll go with the NZ vs Lions finale in 2017 when a dodgy call at the end denied the latter.
1st tier Team of the Decade: New Zealand, 2/3 RWCs, overwhelming domination of the rankings, multiple RC titles, etc, etc.
Honorable mentions – SAfrica – 2019 RWC, Argentina – 2nd RWC semi-final appearance (2015)
Disappointment – Italy, successive spoons in the 6 Nations, no wins in sight and still can’t make the RWC quarters.
2nd tier Team of the Decade: Japan, has beaten SA, Ireland and Scotland at the last 2 RWCs, as well as Samoa (twice), and reached the quarterfinals this year.
Honorable mentions: US – 2017/2018 ARC champs, win over Scotland. Fiji beat France in Paris, among other achievements
Disappointment – Romania/Canada. Oaks disqualified from 2019 World Cup and also managed to lose to Germany. Canada hasn’t made any impression for a long while and had to qualify for this year’s World Cup through the repechages.
3rd tier Team of the Decade: Brazil, 2018 South American champions, wins over USA, Canada and Argentina A to their credit
Honorable mention – Algeria. Have pretty much come from nowhere to reach the top division in African rugby.
Disappointment – Kenya, cannon-fodder for Canada, Germany & Hong Kong at the World Cup repechages, and losing at home to other 3rd tier teams they used to beat not so long ago.
Exciting Development of the Decade: MLR really taking off, expanding nicely, producing great play-offs and attracting lots of foreign talent
Honorable mention – GRR: Off the ground with its pilot series, promises to take pro rugby into new frontier
Disappointment – Super 18: A convoluted format with a couple of inept teams, ridiculous travel requirements for some and big thumbs down from the fans
Collective failure of the Six Nations
That’s try, Gatesy. Last is he’s approached the Bulls in SA. Hopefully they’ll have enough spine to say no.
Martin: Folau settlement like a Christmas present
If the rumors are true about the big payout to Foolau, heads should roll at ARU. It’s not only a waste of money, it sends out completely the wrong message.
Martin: Folau settlement like a Christmas present
45,000 plus on hand to see Madagascar blitz Nigeria 63-3 in Antanarivo today. Yesterday Senegal hammered Mauritius by a similar score, 63-0 in Dakar. The crowd there looked like a few hundred.
Rugby Australia goes it alone
Andrew Mehrtens quoted in ESPN News this morning as saying Australia & NZ should break away from SA and Argentina and look to Asia. I agree, but don’t forget the Pacific Islands.
Rugby is facing a civil war unless Cameron Clyne goes now
Crusaders should be re-branded the Canterbury Rainbows. Uenuku, Maori God of Rainbows, was a Canterburian (true).
Izzy would love it 😂
The biggest talking point for each NZ Super Rugby franchise in 2020
Ivory Coast 60 Rwanda 3, Spain 29 Hong Kong 7, Germany 7 Holland 37, Swiss 20 Poles 23, Cyprus 18 Malta 16
How the Germans have fallen since beating Romania a couple of years back and making the World Cup qualifying repechages
Here’s a great idea: Let’s stop playing the All Blacks
Ghana 36 Botswana 25. Ivory Coast vs Rwana kicks off in an hour-and-a-half, live on Rugby Africa’s Facebook page.
In 7s, Afghanistan thrashed Taiwan this morning, 35-12 in the Asian Olympic qualifiers 😱
Here’s a great idea: Let’s stop playing the All Blacks
In saying that, the tests have become a bit excessive. Once a year ought to be enough. Twice max.
Here’s a great idea: Let’s stop playing the All Blacks
Aussies got strong by playing the ABs more regularly as flights became the popular mode of travel and live TV brought more revenue. They had a lean patch in the 60s and 70s, however. NZ dubbed them the Woeful Wallabies and considered axing them from the agenda. What happened? I don’t know. But barely a few years later the Wallabies were flogging the All Blacks in their own back yard. They remained on more or less equal footing through the 1980s, then the Wallabies won 2 World Cups in the 90s and KOed the All Blacks to reach the final again in 2003. Moral of the story, don’t avoid the All Blacks and things will right themselves sooner or later.
Here’s a great idea: Let’s stop playing the All Blacks
18th of July 2020 Georgia are off to South Africa to play a test.
That certainly is great news! Begs the question, of course, why South Africa don’t play regular tests with neighbors Namibia. They only beat them 57-3 at the World Cup. Not exactly a humiliation given they themselves once lost to New Zealand 57-0. In fact, make it an annual pre-season game and play it in Windhoek. Great way to blow out the cobwebs.
It also begs the question why France and England can’t get across to play a test in Tbilisi. They’d be sure to pack the stadium. Every tier 1 team should be ogliged to include at least one fixture against a tier 2 or 3 team on their annual schedules. For the meantime the gauntlet has been thrown down to NZ, Austrlia, England, France & co.
From what I can see this will be SA’s only test against a non-tier 1 side since the 2015 World Cup, apart from this year’s RWC & warm-up against Japan. Outside of this years RWC, NZ, Australia, England & France have only played three second tier teams each since the 2015 RWC, all involving Japan and the Pacific Islands. France, of course, lost to Fiji and drew with Japan; both games at home!
So this will be the first time one of the Big 5 plays a non-first tier team outside of Japan and the Islands in recent years. It’s a mammoth task for Georgia, travelling to SA to take on the recently crowned World Champions, but a great opportunity to test themselves against the best, which is the only way they’re going to improve.
A disturbance in the Force: China set to shake up world rugby
There’s never been a PI team in Super Rugby. There were individual island teams in the South Pacific Series and Super 10 competitions which were the precursors to Super Rugby. The only combined PI team to speak of played a few tests a few decades back and frankly didn’t prove any more successful than the individual islands would have been. So as a national team, the idea sucked. As a club or Super Rugby franchise, it could work but it’s a question of funding. Also, will Super Rugby want to expand again in the foreseeable future after its unsuccessful attempt at Super 18? I’m not sure it’s the answer. Far simpler to just open up the eligibility laws and let them play for existing Super Rugby teams while also remaining eligible for their home nations. This is how African football is prospering through its close allegiance with Europe.
When will Japan join the Rugby Championship?
FT – Brazil 22-47 Barbarians.
Tupis
Tries:Daniel Lima, Luiz Vieira and Felipe Cunha
Conv: Reeves (2)
Pen: Reeves (1)
Barbarians
Tries: Havili (2), Cottrell (2), Ma’afu, Ezcurra e Vermaak
Convs: Havili (3), Iglesias (2) e Best (1)
Brasil: 15 Daniel Sancery, 14 Lorenzo Massari, 13 Felipe Sancery (c), 12 Moisés Duque, 11 Daniel “Maranhão” Lima, 10 Josh Reeves, 9 Lucas “Tanque” Duque, 8 André “Buda” Arruda, 7 Arthur Bergo, 6 Cléber “Gelado” Dias, 5 Luiz “Monstro” Vieira, 4 Matteo Dell’Acqua, 3 Joel Ramirez, 2 Wilton “Nelson” Rebolo, 1 Lucas Abud;
Suplentes: 16 Yan Rosetti, 17 Matheus “Blade” Rocha, 18 Leonel Moreno, 19 Gabriel Paganini, 20 Matheus Cláudio, 21 Devon Muller, 22 Felipe Cunha, 23 Lucas “Zé” Tranquez;
Barbarians: 15 David Havili (Nova Zelândia), 14 Bautista Ezcurra (Argentina), 13 Lukhanyo Am (África do Sul), 12 Billy Meakes (Austrália*), 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Santiago Iglesias (Argentina), 9 Jano Vermaak (África do Sul), 8 Josh Strauss (Escócia), 7 Pete Samu (Austrália), 6 Angus Cottrell (Austrália*), 5 Luke Jones (Austrália), 4 Tyler Ardron (c) (Canadá), 3 Hencus Van Wyk (África do Sul*), 2 Andrew Makalio (Nova Zelândia*), Campese Ma’afu (Fiji);
Suplentes: 16 Tendai Mtawarira (África do Sul), 17 Rory Best (Irlanda), 18 Wiehahn Herbst (África do Sul*), 19 Ben Landry (Estados Unidos), 20 Marco van Staden (África do Sul), 21 Joe Powell (Austrália), 22 Mathieu Bastareaud (França), 23 Dillyn Leyds (África do Sul);
A disturbance in the Force: China set to shake up world rugby
Apparently 10s is a thing in Hawaii. Samoa’s Eels defeated Wellington’s Petone in the final of an international tournament last weekend.
A disturbance in the Force: China set to shake up world rugby
Looks like World Rugby staff read the Roar. This came up just hours after my post 😁
The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?
You’d have more insight than me, Nick, but my hunch is Rennie will bring a typical uncompromising Kiwi style of play to the Wallabies. It’s really tough to beat the All Blacks at their own game, however. That requires a little more lateral thinking. & one of the features of MacQueen’s reign, as I recall, was that the Wallabies were able to play a highly-structured game and execute it to perfection.
The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?
No disrespect to Rennie, but I think Schmidt is a little more astute on the technical side and would bring out the best in the Wallabies. His coaching style reminds me a little of McQueen, in fact.
The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?
Any links to extended highlights or full match reply of the World Cup final? I’ve still only seen the 4-minute version. 😢
The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?
Joe Schmidt would be much more Aussie’s style.
The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?
Unlimited foreign imports across the board is the answer. Look how it’s revolutionized football! 👍 👍 👍
When will Japan join the Rugby Championship?
Yeah, I wrote an article about that (which you can find by double clicking on my name). It was NZ’s fault, mainly. After finishing 4th in 99 they refused to go through the qualifying process – then for all but the top 3 finishers in the tournament (not the groups!) – and forced through changes. Absolute disgrace 😡
When will Japan join the Rugby Championship?
Long before that even. Have a listen to this: https://soundcloud.com/user-523674328/58-argentina-why-soccer-defeated-rugby
Too right Richie! World Rugby need to get a grip on time-sucking scrums