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Justin Cinque

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'Caught the racing bug' at a young age and a keen student of the sport's history.

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That’s right Wal. The question is can Australian racing thrive with so many G1s and that is where Cam and I are strongly saying it cannot. I concede that it is a subjective assessment nonetheless.

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure: Sydney and Melbourne autumn

Hi Peeeko, we have two open age sprints in Sydney – the Moir and the TJ. At the moment there is two – the Galaxy and the TJ.

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure: Sydney and Melbourne autumn

Great idea James. I can see it now – the Memsie and Warwick merge. The Chelmsford and the Makybe merge. The Rupert Clarke in Sydney definitely works.

Australian racing calendar restructure: Melbourne and Sydney spring

In my opinion Sausages, the Sydney autumn has surpassed the Melbourne spring on the track!

Australian racing calendar restructure: Melbourne and Sydney spring

As Cam says, this is an idea with plenty of merit, Nathan.

Australian racing calendar restructure: Melbourne and Sydney spring

I would say James that while Sydney takes a hit in the spring with downgrades, Melbourne also takes a hit in the early autumn. Australian racing is the benefactor.

As a Sydney person calling for the downgrade of the Golden Rose was not easy. But it is for the good of racing.

Australian racing calendar restructure: Melbourne and Sydney spring

With regard to the number of G1s, at 70-odd Australia has as many as all of Europe and all of Asia if my memor is correct.

We get it down to 40 this week, that puts us at a tad more than England from memory. I do need to confirm that.

Australian racing calendar restructure: Melbourne and Sydney spring

We did Cam – and you know what I can still see room for improvement! That Flight Stakes a week after the Golden Rose and a week before the Thousand Guineas just isn’t right. But, all in all, I think we have done very well to tidy up the spring.

Australian racing calendar restructure: Melbourne and Sydney spring

That’s the way it is seen in Sydney. What we will propose on Wednesday will solve those issues we hope.

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure

Cam is right. And I can report that while the autumn will change it is the Melbourne calendar by-and-large that is being moved to fit in better with Sydney firstly, and some of Melbourne’s big races secondly.

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure

Yes I’ve thought that last point plenty of times Sheek!

I agree without you about corporate bookies. If you watch Sky Channel, they won’t talk corporates but all they will talk about is the odds. And that is just as bad. I had a greyhound in at Canberra yesterday. She was on tv for two minutes walking to the boxes with the rest of the field. Do you think I could see her? Nope – an overlay of the odds covered the screen the whole way.

Racing broadcasts need to be more about racing!

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure

Just on a cap… I think we end up with 40 Group 1s at the end of the week – that’s a perfect round number for a cap. Maybe something to mention on Friday in my wrap.

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure

Another good point Rob. I was in Hong Kong earlier this month. I visited both tracks. An incredible racing country. We don’t have many of them in the world.

Hong Kong racing is amazing. Every race counts. That means every meeting counts. Each Group race is a big deal. And the Group 1s are so meaningful that they are all big events. The interest in racing is huge – 4 dedicated newspapers in Chinese to racing, 22 publications cover racing in some way. Crowds are huge and turnover is massive.

Hong Kong proves ‘less is more’ works. I want that same quality over quantity way of doing things here in Australia.

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure

You may well be right Rob. I’m passionate about this. So is Cam. We want this series to drive change in racing, however unlikely. The fact we are giving our passion an avenue to vent is good for us. I hope it brings good things to racing as well.

The Roar's Australian racing calendar restructure

Thanks Tristan. This preview didn’t roll off the tongue (or fingers, as it is) like in previous years but I think I’ve captured my thoughts well. Another modern-day Cup with many horses capable of winning.

2015 Melbourne Cup: Preview and top tips

Google search seems to indicate my memory is good. 2006 Derby Day was a hot leaders/fence bias day. I can still remember Efficient switching off the rail at the clocktower and charging to a famous win!

Winx the beneficiary of outrageous track bias

Very fair comment Cam.

I can recall rail biased big meetings before. I think the day Starsplangedbanner won the Guineas was a hot fence bias day. And, gees, it was ages ago now, but I got a feeling the day Efficient won the Derby was also a hot fence day. I’ll see if I can find some evidence in support.

Winx the beneficiary of outrageous track bias

Cam, while the track bias, and the perfect run in transit, played its part in the result of the Cox Plate, I personally don’t think it should take any gloss off Winx.

I didn’t back her on Saturday but I probably should have. After jaw-dropping wins in the Theo Marks and Epsom, I went back and watched each of her career starts. I concluded that she had never once ran a bad race, was improving with each preparation and had excuses most times she was beaten. I thought, at that point, that was the horse to beat in the Cox Plate. Alas, I backed Criterion.

Because Winx can sprint so quickly at 2000m off a fast pace makes her the perfect racehorse. Going forward, I think she would be extremely competitive in the races Criterion raced in England this year.

It is very rare to find a horse like Winx. Speed and stamina packages are rare commodities. You can argue, as you did well, that she was extremely flattered on Saturday.

At the end of her career, I suspect it’s just one of many stunning wins we will all look back on. She has plenty more in store.

Winx the beneficiary of outrageous track bias

The Cup winner ran in the Caulfield Cup for mine. Just not sure who it will be. Cam, if it is wet don’t discount the Sydney Cup winner Grand Marshal. He stays all day, is in career best form and loves the wet. He was also the best sneaky Cup trial, making ground on the inside and about to run into the top seven at the 75m when he got chopped out.

Melbourne Cup 2015: What the Caulfield Cup means for the field

Official desire from within the sport, that is

Spring Racing Carnival: The social aspect as important as the racing

Cam, I disagree. You can turn a lover of Black Caviar into a proper follower of racing. I have a 100% strike rate (1 from 1). It has taken some time but this Black Caviar fan loves your everyday Group 1 winner more than most Saturday punters.

It requires proper education, time and some desire to learn. But it is possible. You have to start with the good WFA races and horses and instill a love of the thoroughbred. There’s no official desire to do it but it is possible.

Spring Racing Carnival: The social aspect as important as the racing

It may sound like that Ronald but I’m just punter and lover of racing who wants to go to the races to enjoy the sport. Aren’t many average social punters at the races any more. But I’m still one of them.

Spring Racing Carnival: The social aspect as important as the racing

You make a good argument Cam.

For 20 years I’ve been going to the races in Sydney and for the first 19 of them, I slugged it out with the punters in the public. I wouldn’t have it any other way as well.

But, as the crowd demographic changed, I decided it was time to become an ATC member to get away from the drunken behavior from people who don’t know anything about horses or racing.

I’m all for people having a good time and for maybe having one too many but I don’t like anti-social behavior – and I think the two can be mutually exclusive.

I only go to the races in Melbourne at the pointy end of spring usually, so I’m better qualified to talk about Sydney racing, and all I can say is that the ATC do not employ a very strong RSA policy. Sydney racecourses are messy places by the time it comes to the last race.

Spring Racing Carnival: The social aspect as important as the racing

I was very frank in my Exosphere article. I think – Exosphere aside – it was a poor Group 1, the Golden Rose.

I like Exosphere for reasons other than who he has been beating:
1. His remarkable presence for an early 3yo
2. His amazing turn of foot at Group level
3. His resemblance in many ways to Lonhro

I haven’t seen a colt like Exosphere before. That’s why I think he’s special.

I reckon Cinque got it right, Exosphere is a champion indeed!

Nice write up kv. As I said to Tristan this morning, my tyres feel fully pumped.

In all seriousness though, Exosphere is the most exciting horse in Australia. I hope he gets a chance to show everyone how good he really is before going to stud.

I reckon Cinque got it right, Exosphere is a champion indeed!