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He’s actually done a good job as Eddie’s assistant, but there’s been some crazy stories from when he’s been head coach.

Eddie Jones self-isolating after Covid-19 scare

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Just feel sorry for the players with Mitchell given full rein to beast them 😂

Eddie Jones self-isolating after Covid-19 scare

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To be fair the test cricket was fun!

Hoping for:
* A Covid free autumn and winter in our great nations
* Another barnstorming Super Rugby Aotearoa
* A bit of adventure in the 6n
* Another highly competitive and enjoyable SRAU
* Aussie teams competitive in an SRTT played in front of big crowds
* A full Lions tour and full Rugby Championship
* A new global competition structure that provides financial sustainability for our unions

Super Rugby is actually super close

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It’ll take longer than that I think! But they may well have taken the first step.

Will the Waratahs taste Super Rugby success in 2021?

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Yes all the talk is about the Highlanders young 9, but Roe could even be better. His Waikato deputy was dynamic as well, it will be interesting to see whether he gets more of a chance next year.

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Wow I thought we had a lot of player turnover at the Chiefs!

Big question really in SRAU is whether Brad Thorn’s big long term project will finally come to fruition with the ever improving Reds overhauling the Ponies.

For the Tahs just showing resilience and spirit will be a good foundation.

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[edit: I didn’t bring the matter up in fact, I was replying to someone else]
You have no idea what I do or don’t know. However your snide “Saint Jacinda” remark and propensity to hurl baseless personal insults give you away.
Go on then, educate this ignorant hick from the colonies. I’m sure you have plenty of peer reviewed articles from reputable journals showing how demographics and geography made New Zealand’s twenty something deaths to date and the UK’s 100,000+ inevitable.

European rugby cups suspended over virus

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Well, you’re really showing your true colours here aren’t you with your childish insults? All because you can’t accept that someone from the other side of the political divide has done well on a particular issue while someone on your side has done badly. Obviously I’m not surprised – some people will grasp onto all sorts of theories that defend a leader who projects a world view they can relate to and attack anyone who disagrees. I wonder what the real Funbus would do?

European rugby cups suspended over virus

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They have the same reputation among my English mates!

English rugby is leading us back to the light (no, really)

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Hilarious. Fourth biggest death toll in the world and Boris’ man blames demographics. Funny how all the worst four countries in the world have hard right nationalist leaders, what a coincidence…

European rugby cups suspended over virus

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I was with you until you mentioned the French refs… The likes of Poite and Rynal are still very erratic!

English rugby is leading us back to the light (no, really)

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Current tense: “is” serving up dross this season.

Past tense: “did” play some good rugby in Japan.

😛

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Lots of great stuff there Highlander. The most recent round in Europe also had some great play, especially from French clubs like Toulouse and Clermont.

Such a shame that the England coach is serving up such cross.

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Fiji are great, but even they probably wouldn’t be competitive unfortunately.

Will the Lions actually tour South Africa in 2021?

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For poms it’s often “could be worse”

Will the Lions actually tour South Africa in 2021?

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Hi JN, I was just trying to help you see where others are coming from, I don’t have any sort of agenda. Just look at my long post below on the Lions options – it should be clear that my number one priority is to come up with the least worst solution for South Africa.

Similarly, my number one priority for last year was to get some money for the unions and rugby for the fans. Yes I understand the difficulties – especially men wanting to be there for their families which could have been a legitimate deal stopper – but for a long time the 500 minutes was what was talked about and seemed to be the main determining factor.

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Hi Mz, on the broadcasting side you have to remember that South Africa’s absence halved the number of games, making the tournament less valuable to broadcasters who tend to value quantity… it was certainly reported at the time that they were likely to renegotiate. Jacko’s figures above look pretty reasonable.

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I always like to get all the ideas out there so that they can be properly considered – it’s amazing how often the crazy ones turn out to be the best ones!

Will the Lions actually tour South Africa in 2021?

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Hi Mz, the length of tour would depend on logistics, there might only be six non-test games. With the All Blacks absent you’d probably want to play the better teams and those with decent stadia – Waikato, BoP, Hawkes Bay, Tasman, Canterbury etc with tests in Auckland, Welly and Dunedin.

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I’d say that they’d only move it to 2025 if it can’t be held earlier… as you say in another post the UK option seems most likely (if they think they will still get the majority of the money) but I fear for some businesses who were banking on it.

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“Not a terrible idea”

That’s high praise coming from you! :=)

Will the Lions actually tour South Africa in 2021?

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And hopefully a break before then, considering the Currie Cup is still going!

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What was stopping the UK once they saw what was going on in Italy and Spain, closing the borders, locking down, and ramping up test and trace? Yes they are a more populous country, but therefore they had the resources to do it. They could have been in the same position as us months ago – with their economy up and running again instead of flip flopping in and out of lockdown.

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Cheers Oz, I think it would be interesting to go through the pros and cons of the options – you’ve given two.
1. Postponement one year. National coaches worry that this will effect their 2023 prep, but it will be the same for nearly everyone e.g. NZ will get a weakened Ireland in 2022. If everyone is affected nobody is relatively worse off. And the rugby world simply can’t let South Africa go down the tubes.
Under this option there are several things we can do with the spare time. Swap the 2021 and 2022 July schedules, so everyone gets their 2023 prep a year earlier. Or use the cancellation to start the European season a couple of weeks early, and have a five or six week mini world cup in the European autumn. Failing those, South Africa could do a long awaited full tour of NZ, starting when we are playing our tests v (from memory) Italy; Argentina could visit Australia if quarantine permits.
2. Hold the Lions matches in the UK. This would cause least disruption to the global calendar, and could raise most of the expected money. But it’s less money and the wider South African economy loses out.
3. Move the Lions schedule back four years. Not a good option for any of the old Tri Nations as the Lions money has to stretch an extra four years, but it’s logistically simple.
4. Just cancel it. That would be catastrophic and unfair on South Africa.
5. Bring Australia forward four years and South Africa back four years. Might be the best option if the first two are kyboshed. South Africa would get the full income and could still look forward to 2033 instead of 2037 under option 3. Australia might not get the full in ground income, but would get TV money and sponsorship which would be the majority, and in their current indebted state getting the income now instead of eight years time – and their next tour in 2037 instead of 2041 – could be beneficial. With quarantine required the schedule could be put back two weeks though – would the clubs wear that?
6. If nobody else is willing and able us kiwis would graciously step in of course…
So Oz… everyone… Have I missed anything? What is your best or most likely option?

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We’re still sore about it JN, that decision cost the other three countries millions at a time when we really needed it. Especially when we compare it to what Argentina achieved under far more disadvantage.

South Africans are known for being tough – it just didn’t come across as South African.

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