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I just don’t see how a NRC quality comp without your best players gets the masses excited Ken. Probably the best compromise is a double round robin SRAU and a short Champions League. At least you have most of your best players in that and everyone gets some exposure to different ways of playing.

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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Trouble is Ken, the money simply won’t follow in a split second… You’re talking decades if at all. You just have to look at France and England.

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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That’s the catch 22 unfortunately. There’s just not the money to keep the best players. Only way to do it is pay more money to fewer players, but obviously that’s not going to deliver on your objectives.

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Hi NHF, yes I’ve read stories about how the RFU didn’t want to know about professionalism and the clubs filled the vacuum. And I agree, the French clubs are doing much better prioritising youth development. The season is still far too long though.

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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Fascinating stuff Robert, thank you!

The power of positive thought: The top two inches – Part 2

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They can’t just make up the numbers they have to be competitive.

Although my preferred option was a six team SRAU with a short Champions League.

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They’re big countries Mick. What you don’t realise is that even though nobody watches their club rugby, international rugby cuts through to the average punter. Suddenly rugby is on the back, even front pages of the papers and both England and France get TV audiences in the 5-10 million bracket. And they have several times more players and fans than us, due to the big population. They should dominate the world cups, but don’t because, unlike everywhere else, including Australia, their isn’t a proper pyramid culminating in international rugby.

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Except every major rugby country in the world IS sustained through international rugby. The only possible exception is Japan, where clubs are extensions of massive multinational companies. It’s the only part of the game that makes any money, and it subsidises everything else.

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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Super Rugby worked very well when there were only three Aussie teams. People only lost interest when that was diluted, they kept on losing, and the gap to test rugby increased and the Wallabies were diminished.

I’m afraid that a ten to twelve team comp with second class players in a niche sport in a medium sized country is never going to attract enough eyeballs to build up wages to compete with AFL and NFL let alone the NH. Even in big countries like England and France very rich people have sunk hundreds of millions without return. Meanwhile the wallabies, the only part of the game that anyone is interested in, are weakened. We need to be realistic.

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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Private Equity firms aren’t a revenue stream. They expect to get a profit from their investment. That requires enough punters to watch the comp. The numbers just don’t stack up for a niche sport.

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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So Jez, you’re sick of Super Rugby. Any chance you’re from NSW? 😂 😂 😂

(I’m sure that this is just a clever way to reduce the standard of the other teams so that NSW might actually win a match 😂 )

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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I thought you were going to say that he rocks…

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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Good post Biltong. The two biggest rugby nations have won one world cup between them, largely due to their disfunctional club system which grinds down their players. All round the world, club rugby loses money and is subsidised by the international game. Increasing the length and cost of Super Rugby isn’t the answer.

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The fringe players used to play NRC with the best club players and up and coming coaches. The very best of them got a Super Rugby contract the following year. A perfect development path thrown away.

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That just doesn’t make sense. Ten or twelve teams just means that the money is further diluted, reducing salaries. You’ll lose all your best players to other codes instead of just some of them.

Why Super Rugby is broken and how Australia must shift the focus to save domestic game

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Eddie says that he’s injured, but may play later in the comp

England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

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Underhill has a history of underwhelming for Bath and excelling for England (ask any Bath fan)

England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

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Why? It’s not as if there’s more than two or three of them who can actually bat any better than him! 😂

England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

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I see that Eddie’s scattergun approach to selecting new players has continued. Can’t be good to be picked once then discarded, but he does that to about ten kids a year.

Captain Farrell getting picked despite a total lack of form… can he avoid the fate of his predecessor who got told “you’re f*****d mate!” not that long before Japan?

England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

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Ludlam just doesn’t seem to do anything in particular really well.

England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

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Hi FB, my theory is that Bear is your best close in carrier and you don’t want your best close in carrier exhausted by pushing in the front row all day!

England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

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I was very disappointed that Slade didn’t play the big matches in 2015 Nick. So much more of a creative centre than Joseph, let alone Burrell and Burgess!

England rugby at the crossroads: Which way will Eddie Jones turn (Part 1)?

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Good effort Hugh. I look forward to seeing the Fiji women develop when they rejoin the circuit. Our women didn’t know what hit them in that semi final and did well to keep their composure and win the game.

Paella, sangria, flamenco and rugby sevens

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They have this thing called a schedule Bob. Says when Australia is going to be on. It’s bonza! 😂

Paella, sangria, flamenco and rugby sevens

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I value the updates too JC, but I wouldn’t ascribe divine status to them 😂

Rugby World: Barrett still suffering EIGHT WEEKS after head knock, McMahon's stunning impact, Rassie back at work

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