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You don’t have the money and we want our own teams to be as good as possible. We also need to be able to look after and develop our own players.

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

Mate, we are happy to help our Australian brothers, but there’s no way we’d be so cruel to our rugby players…

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

You underestimate Bob’s sense of humour OOP

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

Nice one Bobby, one way for an Aussie team to qualify for the finals ;=)

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

I doubt that WR can “afford” that, but I think that the good neighbour factor would outweigh the risks of uncompetitive teams.

BTW did you know that there are far more Tongans and Samoans in Auckland?

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

Speak for yourself! We’re still good!

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

My ideal would be five kiwi and three Aussie teams to keep the standards high and the Aussies competitive. I don’t think you can afford more anyway. Double round robin, final, then a short Champions League against the Saffers and Japanese.

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

My English and Irish mates are all pretty down on Piatau from his time at Ulster and Bristol. Poor defence and lazy. I’ve never heard them even mention Morahan!

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

I’m happy to work with you guys in ANZAC solidarity, but my honest fear is that watching your teams get lumped even more often by ours will do nothing to improve your fans’ interest. And how excited can we get by a turkey shoot?

At least the saffers and argies provide competition and variety. I’d definitely want to keep playing them if at all possible, even if it’s just a finals series after the Kiwi, ANZAC or Pacific comp. But 13 teams would be too many – it needs to be short and high quality, with it’s own final before the Champions League.

Why the trans-Tasman bubble must include rugby

They’ve been saying that for 20 years. How many first XV all blacks have left in or before their prime since Hayman and McAllister in 2007?

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

Obviously it reduces the attractiveness of the comp the weaker the South African teams are, although your men against boys assertion is way over the top. The net loss of players this year has been low and both the Sharks and Stormers have been excellent so far.

Whether the chance to watch All Blacks play domestic rugby in SA is more attractive than playing the Currie Cup earlier – where you wouldn’t have any extra Springboks, probably less – and no top domestic competition later is more attractive to broadcasters is a question for them.

Re Pollard v Barrett, they are both well payed, highly respected athletes happy where they are, where’s the problem? Living in New Zealand gives you a fantastic quality of life, there’s no reason for him to move.

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

I just looked up Edinburgh to Milan 2.35 hours. Similar Edinburgh to Venice. The Italian P14 teams are in the north remember. The ones you looked up must have been via another city.

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

I’ve heard a lot of South Africans in Britain who compare so many things there unfavourably to back home – the less straightforward people, the weather, the way of life etc. For some people that’s worth more than money, especially when you’re already on a good wage.

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

It can’t be stopped, but it can be limited. New Zealand has done a great job of keeping our top All Blacks, unfortunately South Africa has been less successful, they are in a different situation. But the more you do keep, the better for developing your youngsters.

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

What it means is that the unions lose 28% forever. Not good long term thinking.

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

Reduces a massive risk to merely a huge risk I would say. If a hooker has the virus, I’d say the chance of passing it on to the opposite tighthead and hooker would be pretty high in what would be at least ten scrums.

The principle is wrong, but are rugby's proposed COVID-19 law changes all that bad?

That puts things into perspective TWAS. Effectively, the P14 have taken a loan out for X years TV money. Except they will be paying that loan back forever.

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

Good point re the P14 JN. If I were the Celts I’d be furious about the South Africans diluting the strength of competition. After a promising first season the Cheetahs have been bottom half ever since, while the Kings have been consistently the embarrassment of the competition. And then you get the travel factor for them, when the longest flight used to be about 2 1/2 hours.

All this in a competition where the best players are usually rested, especially in Ireland. Europe and tests are the priority. And it’s played at the wrong time of year. It keeps the Eastern Cape and OFS unions happy to still have a team I suppose, but that’s about it.

South Africa could emerge as the real winners in a Super Rugby exodus

Surely Rennie has to be given a free hit on this one results wise? He’s building for the medium to long term, not an instant miracle. I’d hate to think that The Roar would be be so knee under hammer!

The future of the Wallabies

Just so long as it’s not green and gold Bobby :=)

The future of the Wallabies

I’ve never eaten an Aussie pie so thanks for the advice!
You’re right, I was comparing the British pies to ours. And even our supermarket pie warmer pies are culinary heaven in comparison.

The Wrap: Giteau’s Law must survive, but with a twist

That was always just a temporary, needs must arrangement. There wasn’t another world class coach available. He moved back upstairs as soon as he could.

Cheika: I should’ve quit before the World Cup

Hi Numpty, NZ have also got links with Harlequins in England (where Sean Fitzpatrick is on the board) and one of the Japanese Clubs with a kiwi coach. Places kiwis can go temporarily and earn some money, but not be ruined.

The Wrap: Giteau’s Law must survive, but with a twist

Carlos, I just did some research and found that there are no direct flights to South Africa to Argentina, it’s a 14 hour Flight via Brazil. I’m sure you already knew this.

This makes it hard to see Los Jaguares play in a South African domestic competition if based in BA. And while I’m sure from a sporting point of view we’d welcome them into another comp if based in that country , I don’t see how that’s affordable for Argentina.

So other that SR continuing, do you see a way that Los Jaguares can continue as an elite pro team?

The Wrap: Giteau’s Law must survive, but with a twist

I believe that we had that with the Super 12, before the Australian and South African expansion and the player drift north, especially from South Africa and Australia. But that ship has sailed.

It feels like there is an article waiting for you to write, with some ideas on what could be done differently…

The Wrap: Giteau’s Law must survive, but with a twist