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Yet, you refer to his stats, but don’t take into count the dropped catches. If an off-spinner’s team mates don’t hold their catches, then how is an off spinner in Australia expected to take wickets, which inevitably affect those stats?

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

Plus, if in SA, I imagine (?) CA would be seeking CSA to cover costs of a travel bubble – fully booked out hotel/s etc. Plus an expanded squad

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

Right, wow. Not sure what to say to all that. I mean, I know the virus is rampant there and it’s not surprising there is government disfunction in managing (not managing) the issue, but still, it’s chastening to hear it from someone living in the situation and who clearly loves their cricket and wants the national team to prosper, but is prepared to give up a home tour because the situation is that bad.

I guess if it goes ahead in Australia, the boards need to come together and ensure CSA receives the financial dividend they would have otherwise expected from a home tour.

So an 11am to 6pm Test in Perth would be 5am to 12pm in South Africa? Would that timeslot work for local following?

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

Really? I read a couple of days ago that the Australian players had signed off on it being in SA?

Well, if in Perth I would be happy – we have had no international cricket this summer. Three matches at the WACA would be old-skool and awesome. A real bowl-off between the two sides. Crowds I think will be restricted to 50% if it is in Perth, so about 9-10k.

Depending on SAF arrival arrangements if they came straight from Pakistan, it’s likely after a quarantine period there would be a fair amount of freedom of movement once here. We haven’t had any community transmission since March or April last year, so mostly life goes on as normal, other than travel restrictions in/out of the State – and the country obviously.

I’ve been reading in the last couple of days about a new “South African” strain of the virus – that may indeed be the tipping point for Cricket Australia to seek to relocate.

Just so long as the series happens – and preferably NOT in the UAE.

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

Any intel on which grounds the series will be played at?

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

Why should I read that? I did and it says nothing. It proves so much about what I have said previously; you rely on snippets from googling and have no substance of experience to rely on, nor any context of things you talk about. No Australian calls our team “the Baggy Greens”.

God, you just can’t stop with your lecturing via “links” and patronising. No one wants to hear your one-man-band, foreign-sourced solutions as how to “save” and “improve” Australian culture. Stick to “saving” your home country of NZ if all you you want to do is lecture. Your bias has been called out by most on here, in less than your 3 weeks on this forum.

Seriously, it, is, boring.

When are the umpires going to take control of the game?

ok.

CA won't mention Australia Day to promote BBL games, and the Prime Minister has had a big whinge about it

Exactly. It’s about how they perform, not the result they get. Some good challenges though – Australia, then India at home next summer.

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

The “King of India”? Who would that be?

CA won't mention Australia Day to promote BBL games, and the Prime Minister has had a big whinge about it

That’s been my assessment – the talent is there, just needs time to develop individually and as a senior playing group. On paper, the Proteas’ individual talent will match it with Australia, I guess coming together as a unit against Australia will be interesting to observe – for example I expect the experienced Australian bowling attack to regroup and bowl as a unit a little better than they did against India. The SL Tests will give those SA individuals the confidence, though I expect tactically Australia will be a much bigger challenge.

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

It will be fascinating to see how South Africa goes in their two Tests in Pakistan, starting in a few days from now.

India Down Under: Rise like a phoenix

Yeah, the outcry on here last year regarding Australia “having” to tour India for a week in January for three ODI’s – the first time in 90 years of cricket between the two countries when Australia had ventured to play in the middle of India’s cricket season – was crazy.

Australia needs first-class cricket during the Big Bash window

Masochist! 😂 😂 😂

Australia needs first-class cricket during the Big Bash window

I expect it to be a cracking series. I haven’t picked up too much commentary here re SAF on the way down. But I’m hoping Australia comes out on top 👍

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

Yes, of course.

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

I don’t think there is a big gap between Green’s batting and bowling. You can’t use this India series as a guide.

Green’s role was to bowl two or three over spells with the old ball to give the main bowlers a rest, and do so without releasing pressure. That’s what he did.

As he has done in the Shield, if he can get access to the new ball and bowl in longer spells where he can implement a plan against batsmen to get their wicket – which is what bowlers do in most cases – he will be a wicket taker at Test level.

It’s unrealistic to expect any fast bowler to come in and bowl two overs with the old ball and take a wicket immediately. If the conditions are so conducive to picking a wicket immediately with the old ball, chances are the mainline bowlers are still going to be bowling and Green doesn’t get a chance.

Green is only coming on when conditions are less than optimal for getting a breakthrough. So again, he did his job in giving the key guys a break and keeping it tight.

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

I was a fan of having Carey plan in the Ashes Tests too, for a couple of reasons:
1) he had already shown capability to bat in pressure situations in England in the WC;
2) we were seriously debating who could be in the middle order for those Test because we felt we had a lack of options

However right now, he seriously needs to get FC match time for him to be a genuine contender in the Test team. 18 months with almost no FC is simply not a selectable Test proposition IMO.

I still think Inglis will be ahead of Carey as next Test keeper – the next batch of Shield matches will be telling as to whether that comes to fruition. He is a brilliant keeper and he is putting the runs on the board at FC level. The way things are going, I expect Carey will play out his days as the ODI keeper.

Alex Carey sends a message to selectors with brilliant BBL ton

Spot on re comp size v population size

Yeah, I have no issue with us Test touring from January. I mean, all tours are now available to watch on multiple platforms, so its not like fans are missing out on seeing cricket at that time of year if they want to.

Many often forget that the cricket season in India/NZ/South Africa/Pakistan/Bangladesh run the same time as our season. Sri Lanka has a bit more flexibility.

It’s probably historical in that Jan was the ODI period in Australia, but that has largely gone by-the-by – and I don’t miss it personally. And in any event it is now the BBL window so ODIs aren’t scheduled – and how many Test players make themselves available for BBL anyway? Food for thought for the next Future Tours Program which should be coming out this year.

Australia needs first-class cricket during the Big Bash window

Hi Paul,

I’ve felt for a while that there is room to expand the Shield comp – both teams and matches.

I am on board with starting the Shield season in northern Australia. Not sure if we want the Shield finishing by November though. We almost always have o/s Test series commencing in Feb/Mar/Apr, so I think we need to have those FC matches at the end of our summer.

I know there will be a push back on workload and talent pool with this suggestion, but I’d like to see 1 or 2 more teams introduced into the Shield comp and the number of matches per State expanded.
– Australia has six Shield sides. New Zealand – one fifth of Australia’s population – has six Shield sides. I don’t think the talent pool argument holds water.
– I’d like to see an NT side (probably with a selection zone incorporating nth QLD) and an ACT team (probably incorporating an adjoining region in NSW) introduced – the populations of both NSW and QLD can surely provide the talent if a State like Tasmania can source players (acknowledging there is some cross-border movement of players in most States anyway).
– With 8 teams, I’d propose 14 games per Shield side (home and away), up from the current 10.
– The comp would start in August almost exclusively in NT/Nth QLD as you suggest. So something like 9 rounds by November/December and 5 rounds after January. It provides not only an excellent lead into our summer Tests, but also provides some selection benefit given we play a few Tests in Sept/Oct now and then – particularly when we tour India.

Of course, I’d prefer to see Shield rounds during December and January when the Tests are on, but doubt that will happen given focus on the BBL.

Australia needs first-class cricket during the Big Bash window

I thought the umpires were very good. All of them – I think I am correct here – are ICC Elite Panel Umpires. Bias doesn’t come in to with those professionals.
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The difference? Possibly. And good on Pujara for putting his body on the line, if that is what he was prepared to do.

When are the umpires going to take control of the game?

Yes, but would you have played Sundar if Ashwin – and Jadeja – been available?
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“New spinner” – you mean Mitchell Swepson?
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In fairness to Lyon, he had 5 catches dropped off his bowling – some of those being important drops at critical times which could have changed the course of the matches, certainly Sydney, and he probably therefore would have conceded less runs. Instead of taking 9 wickets @ 55, he may have ended up with 14 wickets @ 25-30. He was probably not attacking enough at the end in Brisbane, but if his teammates had done their job and held those catches, I doubt there would be the discussion about Lyon we have been seeing.

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

I believe he was injured for the whole series, but indeed was still playing Test cricket at that time. South Africa has certainly had some generational changeover in a short period of time.

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

These will be the players missing from the last tour, have I missed anyone?

– Hashim Amla
– AB de Villiers
– Vernon Philander
– Morne Morkel

Depth issues mean few changes for South Africa tour

Agreed.

When are the umpires going to take control of the game?

I certainly have no issue with the short pitched bowling at Pujara. Pujara chose to use his face rather than his bat in order to protect his wicket; that’s his choice.

When are the umpires going to take control of the game?