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Jeffrey Dun

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This is the best Indian fast bowling unit I have seen; and, it is also the worst Australian batting line up that I have seen (certainly the worst top 6).

And yet, despite this, in the three completed innings in this series so far, Australia has scored 850 runs to India’s 840.

Indian quicks leave Australia battered and bruised

“The Marsh bashing is pathetic but so typical of the Australian way of slaying our own. Only in Australia, something is fundamentally wrong with the thinking in this country.”

You need to travel abroad more often !

Australia's top order fails again as Proteas win to clinch 2-1 series lead

“He didn’t say all Tigers supporters.”

Perhaps I have a thin skin on the subject given that I support the Tigers and am a member.

The point is, he didn’t say “some” Tiger supporters. “Tiger fans” implies supporters generally, which irritates me because I would say that, to the best of my knowledge, there were more fans either undecided or opposed to the idea outright. I was certainly not in favour. While we have many holes in our roster, half back is not one of them.

I agree that we have come out of this quite well. Not so sure about the Panthers – appointing a coach that you sacked three years ago, for a five year term is pretty bizarre.

Panthers officially announce Ivan Cleary will coach from 2019

I’m a bit confused Peter. If we (or CA) can’t handle the truth, then surely the Ethics Committee would have produced a whitewash of a report.

I think the cricketing public in this country can handle the truth – hence the outrage at the cheating.

Also, CA can handle the truth, which is why they commissioned the report.

The bans on the three concerned are widely supported.

I must be missing something.

We can’t handle the truth - Australian cricket’s culture

“Tigers fans in March salivating over the thought of Nathan and Ivan together at the club.”

Did you do a poll Andrew ? All Tiger supporters salivating ?

I can’t be precise about the break down, but I do know that many Tiger supporters preferred to keep Brooks. Not only is he a junior, but he is regarded as a better value for money proposition than NC.

So stop generalising. Hyperbole such as this makes me think you have an agenda.

Panthers officially announce Ivan Cleary will coach from 2019

“Firstly comparing bans other nations or the icc hand out to what your country does is incredibly childish…”

That’s garbage ! The cricket community is international. We play under an international governing body and under uniform rules. What happens in India, England etc is of great interest to the cricket enthusiast around the world. The ball tampering fiasco in SA was probably the biggest story in world cricket for the last decade. The international blogs were full of it.

And yet, you say that is poor form to notice how other cricket authorities conduct their affairs. That’s nuts !

When you say “…Australia has pretended to be more honourable than other cricketing nations..” I’d suggest that in banning the three who disgraced us in SA for a year is a lot more honourable than other Cricket Boards have been when dealing with their cheats. But we shouldn’t comment on that should we James. That doesn’t suit your narrative.

Time for Cricket Australia to end the Smith, Warner and Bancroft bans

“…….he would have fell with the rest.”

Sorry, but how could you possibly know ?

He has played responsible innings in the past. In India he scored 104 off 185 balls.

Australia collapse to waste Finch and Khawaja's good work

“There will be better players that miss out because they won’t enrich the team the way others will.”

This concept of preferring players with intangible qualities that “enrich” the team over actual on-field performances worries me.

Based on your comments of the past, I suspect that if you were a selector in the 1930s, you would have omitted Bradman because he didn’t “enrich” the team to your satisfaction.

I would strongly prefer the better players with the superior on-field performances over the lesser players who have “enriching” qualities.

Finch as a Test opener is a mistake

Those commenting on here know more that me. I don’t read the Telegraph and I cancelled my subscription to Fox last year, when their NRL programs became more and more like a television version of the Telegraph.

The only reason I know that something is afoot is because of the little video on the Roar (which I have prevented from playing) that says “Sam Burgess fronts the media but refuses to answer questions on sexting scandal”.

I haven’t got a clue what that means, and I’m not inclined to find out.

Meanwhile, I float through the semis in blissful ignorance.

How Buzz Rothfield's hypocrisy sandwich flew under the radar

“I suspect Gus might have recognised this impending problem early in the piece, and hence why Ivan was let go…”.

I enjoyed the euphemism Albo: “Ivan was let go”. He was sacked ! And according to reports the family regarded it as completely unjustified and deeply hurtful.

That’s why I have found it hard to believe that Ivan would contemplate a return to Penrith to work for Gus again. It’s a bit like a whipped dog returning to it’s master with it’s tail between it’s legs.

I thought Ivan had more pride than that. I still find it hard to believe.

A warning for Nathan Cleary: Playing under your dad isn’t much fun‬‬‬

“ABs fans pour congrats on the boks…..”

A round of applause for the AB supporters.

“……here its wallow in self pity again…and again.”

The way things are going there will be less and less wallowing. Only 14,000 at the match last night, while the AFL had 92,000 at their semi while Souths and Saints had 49,000.

Sadly, in this country, fewer and fewer people care.

Wallabies beat themselves on the Gold Coast

“….its a pathetic argument.”

That’s funny, I thought I was making an observation.

“….what matters is how your team behaves. Even more so for Australia who have in the past, loudly, taken the moral high ground.”

But haven’t the ACB taken the high moral ground ?

Ball tampering - a legal analysis and a call for reform

“The Australian public’s rejection of their team’s behaviour was universal and immediate. The clamorous chorus of strident disapproval was staggering.”

I agree. It’s interesting to compare Australian cricket supporters and the ACB’s reaction to those of other countries when their players are found guilty of ball tampering.

For example, in the recent Sri Lankan ball tampering incident, upon learning of the chaarge, the players refused to take the field for two hours, and their Board issued a statement defending the players.

Ball tampering - a legal analysis and a call for reform

“…..I just turn it off.”

I just turn it down.

2018: The year rugby league turned on Buzz Rothfield

“I would have thought it exactly proves my assertion.”

It’s an interesting point, but I’m not sure that it does. The point is, if it is so much harder to open in England than it is in other countries, then I would expect the difference in the home and away average to be more than 1.4.

When you talk about “most players” having significantly better home averages you might be right. But the first player I thought of to compare Cook with was Graeme Smith. Smith averaged 41.5 at home; away he averaged 55; and, he averaged 67.7 opening in England (although he only played 5 test matches there) .

Your assertion certainly holds true for Hayden. I can’t be bothered checking any more.

Alastair Cook: Good or great?

He averaged 44.7 at home and 46.1 away. A difference of 1.4 runs. This doesn’t really support your assertion.

Alastair Cook: Good or great?

Agreed. He is much better than average.

I’m not sure how define a great batsman. You probably need to average over 50 to achieve that. I would say that he falls just short of greatness, but is a very fine player.

I would add that it is all very well asking if Cook is a good or great player, but it would be nice to add a few definitions to guide us. (I suppose if the author added his personal definitions we would simply argue about those.)

Alastair Cook: Good or great?

“Our own Don, stood his ground in his comeback test in 1946 after appearing to be clearly caught at second slip.”

Is this an example of Bradman violating the spirit of cricket ?

He was clearly caught in the slips, but Bradman thought he was caught off a bump ball. The umpire agreed and gave him not out.

If a batsman does not believe he is out he is entitled to leave it to the umpire. If the umpire agrees with him, then what’s the problem ?

How the 'Spirit of Cricket' misses the mark

Chris, the fact that everybody (except Adam Gilchrist) cheats, does not justify the act. It may be the norm, but it’s still cheating.

The batsman feathers the ball to the keeper and stands his ground, or the bowler thinks he’s just missed the outside edge, but appeals anyway. These are all forms of (accepted) cheating.

Everybody does it, so it becomes accepted. Some commentators lament the pressure it places on umpires, but that is what they are paid for, so who cares.

There are degrees of “cheating” and this is at the lower end, but it is still cheating.

Is Virat Kohli a cheat?

“…I’ve always wondered why finger spinners fare so poorly in Australia…”

I always assumed that visiting finger spinners lack of success in Australia was because our pitches don’t turn much (if at all in many cases) and have very little natural variation (the same ball, landing on the same spot, will behave exactly the same).

As a consequence, Australian batsmen treat finger spinners as slow straight-break bowlers.

However, Australian pitches do have bounce (usually) and its no coincidence that bowlers like Nathan Lyon bowl with a lot more overspin to exploit the bounce in the pitch. The overspin also gets the ball to dip, with the intention that batsmen, when coming forward to drive, are not to the pitch of the ball, and hit a catch in front of the wicket.

What makes a great offie?

“I know that I’ll always have a whinge, probably even at my own funeral…”

Love your sense of humour Birdy – but then we WT fans need it to stay sane.

Tigers hang on by the skin of a referee as Warriors go whack

“if West’s get anymore control over the tigers or the name itself dissapears……”.

What have you heard to make you think that might happen ?

I understood that Wests Ashfield had been quite accommodating towards Balmain – paid their debt to the NRL and gave them two seats on the WT Board, even though Balmain are no longer making financial contributions to the JV.

I can’t believe that Wests Ashfield would be so stupid as cut the WT’s associations with Balmain, given how important the rusted-on Balmain supporters are to the JV.

Tigers hang on by the skin of a referee as Warriors go whack

“There is a third theory floating around that teams are taking their home advantage to a whole new level by giving the visiting teams flat wickets ahead of a Test series.”


This might well be true. Certainly when Australia toured England last they played two warm up matches on absolute roads. This was not good preparation for playing on the green seamers that they were about to face when the series commenced.

It was suggested that the state of the pitches was not a conspiracy by the ECB, but simply a desire by the two counties hosting the matches to maximise the gate by ensuring the matches went the distance.

Certainly in the old days test squads played many lead up matches against full strength sides. I recall reading that each time Bradman toured England he scored over 1,000 runs before the end of May. In other words, he scored 1,000 runs against the counties before the test series started. The modern batsmen will never have that luxury.

Is lack of practice games the reason for poor overseas performances?

“The best footballing athletes in Australia do not play union, but AFL or League.”

Yes, and you can add basketball to that list.

When Ben Simmons was carving them up in the USA last season, I was thinking how useful he would have been in the Wallabies; (perfect size and skills for a lock) and I wondered if he would have played Rugby as his second choice.

The answer is no. He revealed in an interview that his other passion is AFL.

Spiro notes that Whitelock: “…was a “hugely talented” basketball player as a teenager, according to the New Zealand Rugby media release, before he concentrated on rugby.”

I think we can safely assume that if Whitelock were an Australian he would be currently plying his trade in the NBA earning millions of dollars with Ben Simmons and all the other Australians playing in the USA.

Therein lies the problem for Australian Rugby.

The Wallabies had Plan A. The All Blacks had Plan A and B

“These batsmen I believe are far better and handling pace and bounce…”

Possibly, but if the pitches resemble those of recent years, there won’t be much pace and bounce to be seen. Four roads can be expected.

Given that, I can see plenty of runs being made (especially by Kohli).

I think it will be the Indian bowling under the microscope at the end of the Australian series. You recall the Indian attack failed to take 20 wickets in any test match last time they were here.

India need to overhaul their Test side before heading to Australia