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What chip have I got Micko?

Is this the one where I don’t like Sydney Uni and Randwick?

Nothing to do with them being elites, just hate the way they held the rest of the code in contempt and undermined the NRC.

(For the record, neither of those teams are from the North Shore)

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Look forward to reading that.

Had hoped he would get blooded for the Wallabies last year but I think the Pumas stunning the AB’s in their opening TN match put paid to that.

A man for all seasons in Melbourne: Geoff Parling

Is that official yet? I keep hearing it stated but haven’t seen the announcement.

A man for all seasons in Melbourne: Geoff Parling

I’m not saying anything is good Mick, just saying Randwick have done a better job than most.

I don’t doubt that the NRL clubs are out there doing a better job, they have the resources.

They’ve got the ability to get kids into Jersey Flegg sides and give them contracts of about 10k a year, give them a full season of competition and the opportunity to go on to the NRL.

The equivalent NSW age group rep plays a couple of games a year for his jumper.

It’s just chalk and cheese.

The age group competitions for young rugby players are in clubs and schools and they aren’t paying, they charge subs to anyone that wants to play because the union is broke – I repeat what I stated above, the NSWRU stood down 70% of their staff last year.

The only group actually doing what I would consider good work for indigenous kids in rugby is the Lloyd McDermott Rugby Development Team and they survive on sponsorships and donations.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Randwick aren’t my favourite club (furious at the way they undermined the NRC) but they’ve got one of the better track records with indigenous players.

They’ve got Longbottom and Reilly now but you can look back to guys like Brendan Williams, Lloyd and Andrew Walker, the Ella’s.

They are better than most clubs at bringing indigenous players through.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

And as I say to Terry below, there are only three ex-public school guys in the whole Tahs squad which is a major issue in and of itself.

It’s the local clubs that will change things though. The Tahs aren’t picking kids from private schools because they want to, it’s just where kids with rugby experience are coming from.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Think the major advantage is the access to sponsors being a wealthier area.

Rugby itself though was in dire straits when I started down there. We used to regularly head home from Death Valley having had our @rses handed to us.

In seven years playing for the club I played finals once. I got more knockout rugby playing in relegation matches vs Drummoyne for the right to stay in the competition than I ever got to challenge for silverware.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

That positive outlook comes from being the bloke getting whipped every week and now seeing his club in such a better place than it was in my day.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Sure but that is the local clubs and the schools that will drive things, not the professional game.

Triston Reilly has followed Beale’s path. He’s from Kempsey and South West Rocks, a Dunghutti man.

His path was through St Joseph’s College, Hunters Hill. From there he made the GPS team, the Aussie Schools, Aus U-20’s and Oz 7s, plays for Randwick in Shute Shield and gone from there to the Waratahs.

This isn’t the pro-team going out and finding a kid.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Cheers Mick – I’m in no position to comment on the anthem, I only raised it as RA making an effort.

Rugby is operating on a shoe string, NSWRU had to stand down 70% of their staff.

The Waratahs are only using 80% of the salary cap.

Compared to league we are a drop in the ocean, if we need to compare to NRL then we’ll never look good.

I just reacted to Dan’s comment of “don’t want”, I think they are making what efforts they can, it’s just our capability is dwarfed by what the larger codes can do.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Terry, it’s guys like Tatafu Polota-Nau that will revive the Two Blues.

My club is Southern Districts – hardly the heartland’s of the east and north. I joined the club in 1991, just two years after the club formed from the merger of St George and Port Hacking in 1989.

I played 7 years down there before work got in the way and I switched to a Subbies club. We were always cellar dwellers in my time there.

I look at the club now and am amazed, it’s come on so strong and it’s not the governing bodies of the game, it’s the people that are part of the club that lift it up.

I recall chatting to one of the key blokes down there when NRC was starting up and asking how he felt about it, he said it was pretty irrelevant to him. All it meant to him was that he knew as a club they had to be self sufficient and all his focus was on that.

Anything from NSW HQ or RA is just the cherry on top of all the hard work the members of the club and it’s committee put in. The sponsorships they arrange and development they do.

I can see the rise of rugby in the region off the back of the growth of the club as well. The Burraneer rugby club always had juniors but now have senior subbies sides as well, Port Hacking are back playing subbies and the Sea Lice v the Hackers is now played after 1st Grade at Foreshaw.

Isn’t like we need the Tahs to come down and play at Caltex – the rise of SD and it’s engagement with the community is driving this.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Except the Tahs had Kurtley Beale play 148 games for them, have Robbie Abel, last year his brother Charlie as well, have had Cody Walker in the squad the last couple of years (although he didn’t crack the run on side) and they’ve got Triston Reilly there now.

Brumbies have Andy Muirhead and used to have the Arnold brothers. Reds have Moses Sorovi.

Rugby can do better but I think it’s pretty clear they do want Indigenous kids, hence why they wear the jersey and supported the anthem being sung in Eora.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Thanks Mused – frustrating that isn’t on the Rebels site yet.
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Article also mentions Josh Canham in their squad as a lock, the only mention of him on the Rebels site I could see has him joining pre-season training, not being added to the official group for the season.

A man for all seasons in Melbourne: Geoff Parling

Not too many public school blokes in the Tahs – suspect this current crop may be the leanest on that front I’ve ever seen with only Gordon, Johnson-Holmes and Walton out of that system (Black Wattle, Merewether and Wadalba high schools).

Still they’ve made one of them captain, not sure how we break the perception and ensure people know it’s a game for all but Gordon as captain can’t hurt.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

I’m excited about Triston Reilly coming through at the Tahs, Mick. He looks a real talent, speed to burn and you can see he really puts in, big efforts even very late in matches.

Very keen to see him develop.

Can Parramatta persistence pay off for rugby in the west?

Thanks Nicholas. Great to get some insight on Geoff.

The lineout looked to be coming along well, breakdown I think needs a lot more work though.

Big challenge for Parling and the Rebels without Philip this season. Not sure who’ll be running it for them.

Their first choice locks look to be Hosea and Cummins – although there is rumour they’ll be bolstering with an Argentine.

A man for all seasons in Melbourne: Geoff Parling

Only about 7 of his likely starting 15 though.

Paenga-Amosa, Tupou, Salakaia-Loto, Wright, Wilson, Paisami, Daugunu and Vunivalu are not Queenslanders.

Time for the Reds to shine in 2021

Tet did a lot better than I thought he would last year.

Will the Waratahs taste Super Rugby success in 2021?

Moeroa was good in that last game. Really hoping he can keep improving this year.

Would definitely give us the most powerful crash 12 in the AU comp.

Will the Waratahs taste Super Rugby success in 2021?

Looking forward to seeing Bell take on Tupou again, he kept learning all last year and shorter powerful guys are still the props he needs most exposure to.

Wasn’t everyman and his dog’s fault when he got carded, it was HJH who committed the last two penalisable offences but Bell that got marched.

Felt for Gus there, yes he’d been massively under the pump but he’s shown great ability to work through different challenges already in his young career.

He certainly didn’t look out of place when he came on for the Wallabies so the experts including Rennie and du Plessis may be on to something.

Also really looking forward to the next Tahs v Rebels match, Bell vs Fa’amausili will be fun to watch. They were super fired up at each other during their last scrum of the season.

Will the Waratahs taste Super Rugby success in 2021?

Yeah. Not his best!

Harrison and Edmed both look like they’ve been hitting the gym though.

Was a tall bloke I wasn’t familiar with as well, I was guessing Caird.

How do the Super Rugby AU squads stack up?

That’s good news. That is each of the key positions they need to cover.

Glad to hear it, thanks for the update.

How do the Super Rugby AU squads stack up?

Cheers Shooter.

I think it’s just that they are still negotiating. The Force are trying to get Jake Ball on their books and the Rebels have a few more tight forwards to announce.

All squads are training, they’ll just have a few guys joining later. Those Kiwi sides are going to be tough to play against no matter when our squads get together!!!

How do the Super Rugby AU squads stack up?

Retired, he’s gone back to the farm in Berry.

https://brumbies.rugby/news/2020/11/13/will-miller-retires-brumbies

How do the Super Rugby AU squads stack up?

Just saw a picture of Moeroa from Tahs pre-season – he’s still a very big man. Hopefully he’s been getting his speed and agility up, will really give us a different crash option from the other Super AU teams if he can perform.

Saw Edmed as well – his quads are huge, going to be a seriously solid unit when he finishes growing.

Looking forward to him, Donaldson and Harrison fighting it out for 10.

How do the Super Rugby AU squads stack up?