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I don’t at all, but many do. I’m proud of my English heritage.

How the AFL can go global

I don’t think those skills are very difficult though; I’m a country footballer and I could handball accurately and kick a 50m pass no worries; most senior footballers can. Compare that to Indian dribbling a hockey ball, for example, which is a much harder skill to master.

How the AFL can go global

I think it applies to the elite level as well, just on a different scale. The elite players can all kick when they’re in training drills but there’s so many of them who can’t hit the side of a barn and can’t kick on their opposite foot to save themselves. Many of them can’t take an overhead mark either. Lots of them seem to have no awareness and make terrible decisions, particularly under pressure.
This is the trade-off of drafting players who can run all day over players who are good footballers.

How the AFL can go global

I too played a lot of hockey, as a kid, and when I switched to footy the difference in skill level was obvious to me. No doubt there’s some super-skilled footy players, but games like hockey, cricket, golf and tennis require much more skill to play at a high level.

How the AFL can go global

It’s worth noting in this (very interesting) discussion that rugby, soccer and Aussie Rules were all formalised around the same period. People are always looking for links to other sports that Aussie Rules was “copied” off, but it wasn’t copied off those sports, because they were all created at the same time. They all borrowed off each other in some way.

How the AFL can go global

The soccer kicking action is completely different to kicking a footy.

How the AFL can go global

I don’t really understand why people who grew up with a sport and love that sport think that people who grew up with another sport and love that sport are going to change sports.
It’s like soccer people thinking that they can get Victoria and South Australia to play soccer, just because they like the game.

How the AFL can go global

I don’t think it has. If you have to opportunity to get the best player in the game in your team you do it, every time.

Buddy Franklin's time at the Swans has been a failure

I’ve played quite a few sports over the years, and one thing I noticed about footy above all others was that it’s a game of effort more than skills. You can be a good footy player but not be highly skilled if you try hard. The harder you try the better you go.
Every other game I’ve played is more skill than effort; I’d go as far as to say that footy is comparatively a low-skilled sport.

How the AFL can go global

Tens of thousands of years? That’s speculative. I reckon people have played games where they’ve kicked things and hit thing pretty much forever…that’s speculative too, I know.

How the AFL can go global

Yup. It’s the wealthiest, most advanced society, with the highest living standard ever in the history of the world and people want to destroy. It’s illogical.

How the AFL can go global

The Poms basically invented organised sport. Western culture owes England a great deal, but we’re too guilt-ridden to realise so we do our best to try to tear it down. Future generations will regret our guilt.

How the AFL can go global

WA, SA and the NT separating? Oh that’d be sweet. The eastern states would be measurably richer without having to prop them up. You can keep your iron ore royalties, we don’t have to fund you anymore, we don’t need them.
Can you take Tasmania as well? The new Australia would only be stronger. Of course, we’d have to build a wall to keep you all from illegally coming into our country, but it’ll take you a little while to realise that your governments have no money and you can’t afford any sort of welfare system or hospitals, so we’ll have some time. Just a higher rabbit-proof fence will do. Good coin for the fencing contractors.

The AFL to apologise for Perth being far away

Bang on Rowdy. I agree with everything you’ve written. Myself and others have argued on this site that the prior opportunity rule needs to be fixed to get rid of the congestion.
I don’t know how you solve the zones that are choking the game, but I’d like to see some new tactics to beat it rather than the players just kicking it 15m and playing keepings off. I’d like to see designated kickers (ie. Daniel Rich types) kicking long to a contest on the wing with crumbers around the ball. There’s an opportunity for some set plays to break the game apart but the teams are hell bent on playing conservative footy at the moment.

The game is too long. Shorter quarters are here to stay

It’s unfortunate that big Bud has probably done his dash. Was a great player to watch.

Buddy's injury diagnosis is bad news for Swans fans

Let’s go to 12 minute quarters with the same number of players on the bench as on the ground. It’s good enough for the NBA, and they’re American, so it must be good enough for us.
They can cram heaps of ads into the time-outs too.

The game is too long. Shorter quarters are here to stay

Who’s Charlie? The players already go hell for leather; they won’t go any harder, they just won’t have to do it for as long.
6 on the bench and shorter quarters will just help them to transition better and get into their zones quicker. Scoring is all about breaking the zone now; and teams break zones by either precise ball movement (West Coast and Hawthorn), wearing down the opposition players (Richmond and Collingwood) or the other team lacking the discipline to maintain the zone (Bulldogs).
Scoring won’t increase with shorter quarters and more players on the bench.

The game is too long. Shorter quarters are here to stay

Spot on Brendon. He who has the heart to push at the end of a quarter is he who wins. It’s always been that way.
When I started playing seniors 20+ years ago quarters were 25 minutes plus time on – usually about 30 or 31 minutes. Nothing much has changed since; that’s senior footy. If you’re not fit enough you don’t get a game.
The only thing that’s changed since for the AFL is the insistence of stopping the clock everytime the ball stops. Just stop stopping the clock for every time a mark has to be set or the umpire wants to insert himself in the game and they’ll take a couple of wasted minutes off every quarter.
Mark my words, this change is about $$$ – the AFL want to put more ads in games, nothing else. It will make the viewing experience worse for all supporters.

The game is too long. Shorter quarters are here to stay

You’re both thinking of this the wrong way, and the actual way they will handle it is bad. They are introducing an extra long “break” between goals. This is so they can jam more ads in. The game will go just as long as it always has, but it will now be more ads and less footy.
This is bad news. The AFL are pulling the old three card trick on everyone here. It’s nothing to do with better quality footy, and everything to do with money.
As far as the quality of the footy goes, I can’t see it increasing scoring. Good teams eventually break the structures of other teams and scoring opens up – this usually happens late in quarters. With shorter quarters the likelihood of this happening lessens and teams will be able to hold out better.

The game is too long. Shorter quarters are here to stay

No, no, no, no, no….and footy is not a “product”.

The game is too long. Shorter quarters are here to stay

For a self-professed worldly person you’re very blinkered in your world view.

The AFL to apologise for Perth being far away

You’d be surprised how little the rest of the world thinks about WA.

The AFL to apologise for Perth being far away

WA was nothing but a desert until the Victorians started digging up gold. Of course, it was years after the gold rushes in Victoria and New South Wales – WA behind the times yet again.
And Kalgoorlie only exists because of the pipeline built by an Irish engineer.
We gave them footy and we advanced them beyond being a desert with a few convicts – no wonder they have a chip on their shoulder; they owe everything they are to Victoria. Even their precious iron ore was discovered by a New South Welshman!

The AFL to apologise for Perth being far away

Because they live soooo far away that they’d have to go on tours like the cricketers.

The AFL to apologise for Perth being far away

Expand your mind man. There’s a big wide world out there.

The AFL to apologise for Perth being far away