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Josh Elliott is a rusted-on North Melbourne tragic with a penchant for pun headlines - and also abnormal alliteration, assuredly; assuming achievability. He once finished third in a hot chilli pie eating contest. You can follow him on Twitter @JoshElliott_29.

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Hope all goes well Col. And fingers crossed there is footy for you to watch.

AFL in the time of COVID-19: Sticking together while social distancing

Wow, could not have been tighter for that No.1 spot.

The Roar’s AFL top 50 wrap: The full list, who voted for who, team of the top 50, plus best clubs

I think if it was a ranking based just on 2019 form he probably would be. Put in another year like that and it’d be hard not to have him in the top 20.

The Roar's AFL top 50 players: 40-31

Not to pile more devastation on here, but… unmentioned in the Kersten section is that a lot of rumour suggests a schism between him and Neale was at least part of the reason Neale left the club. And re McCarthy, the frustrating thing here is Freo slipped back from pick 3 in that draft to pick 8 to get him – took Griffin Logue at pick 8, while Hugh McCluggage unexpectedly lasted till pick 3 😔

My fingers are crossed Hogan will be able to make good on his talent. Great player.

The flawed five: Fremantle's worst recruitment woes

Bugger me I’m excited to see Lachie Weller pull on that All Stars guernsey, that’s what we’ve been dreaming of for a decade

AFL reveals State of Origin sides for charity match

We have the league’s best key forward, so 👍

Champion Data have released their 2020 list rankings and we have many, many questions

Agree, this is way off, North clearly has the No.1 midfield in the comp, No.2 is an insult. We’re coming for you, Brisbane.

Champion Data have released their 2020 list rankings and we have many, many questions

The Crows are gonna win at least five of the first ten premierships and it’s all Kochie’s fault.

AFLW 2020 season preview: Adelaide Crows

I guess they feel like he didn’t have enough Merrett.

Merrett dumped from Essendon leadership group after player vote

Nice headline work Stirling 👍

Mahomes and hosed! Chiefs end 50-year drought with Super Bowl win

Yeah, that’s fair. It’s definitely something of a bastardisation of the term. It’s for charity so I’m ok with it – but, I’m a Victorian, which probably makes it easier to be ok with it!

The AFL bushfire relief game is not State of Origin

I agree it’s not ideal, but I think the AFL’s idea was simply to create a single game that any player could hypothetically participate in, and it’s just not possible to do that with “true” Origin – one of the three big footy states would have to be left out, and it just doesn’t work.

I guess their assumption is that having a larger series of games would simply be too much strain on the players/too difficult to throw together in a short space of time.

The AFL bushfire relief game is not State of Origin

My understanding of these rules is that they only pertain to whether or not a club is allowed to trade their future picks, ie, if you haven’t used at least two first rounders in the last four years, you’re not allowed to then trade your future selections.

Even then the AFL will grant exceptions if clubs apply for them, and WCE, being a well-run and generally successful club, would almost certainly get one of they asked, I suspect.

Of course, this is only my understanding on the rules – the AFL has never really offered a great deal of clarity about how they work. At any rate, I doubt WCE would get into any kind of serious trouble.

If nothing else they could make the argument that they may not have used a first rounder in the 2019 draft, but did use four second-rounders, which should be considered more than equivalent.

Should the 17 other AFL clubs hold the West Coast Eagles to ransom?

Yeah, off the top of my head the base salary is around $100k or so? I think the implication is that around 60% of AFL players are on that.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

Yeah I’ll admit, having read your stuff for a while, I find it interesting that we’ve continued to go hard at mature recruits when obviously your perspective is that youth talent will take over the game, and quickly. I’d like to see the latter happen just because it’s exciting, but hopefully doesn’t mean we get left in the lurch.

AFLW 2020 season preview: Kangaroos

Going to spend a lot of the season missing Duffin, I’m afraid. Otherwise I feel really confident about the side. I think there is some serious hunger to go deep given that we didn’t get to finals last year (depsite probably deserving it). While the list hasn’t changed a whole lot, that stability might be good ground for improvement – it often is in the men’s comp. Worth noting also that Emma King is very dangerous when she goes forward, and I suspect they’ll be looking to do that a lot this year.

AFLW 2020 season preview: Kangaroos

I can’t seriously imagine Brown leaving unless the club hit absolute rock bottom and decide to sell all our most valuable assets for picks – and to be honest, even if we copped the spoon this year I just can’t see that happening. I’d be stunned if he up and left of his own volition – North will offer just as much $ as any rival club would, and I think he enjoys being at the club.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

I don’t think having Jenkins on the list will make Geelong change their mind about pursuing Cameron, if indeed they were previously serious about it. Jenkins will be 31 by Round 1 this year. Fingers crossed for the battered Sav, like him, but again even if he breaks out I don’t see why the Cats wouldn’t also pursue Cameron – can have a triple-threat forward line for a few years and then the Cameron-Sav partnership would still be very strong.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

I think Coniglio is probably being paid close to his max value, Whitfield and Kelly didn’t hold out for big deals so long as he did so I think are probably taking something resembling unders to be there, and Toby Greene would be doing much the same.
Apparently most clubs spend about 80% of their salary cap on the top 15 or so players (https://www.afl.com.au/news/148637/20yearolds-on-500k-how-the-gold-coast-tax-changed-the-game), so GWS aren’t necesarilly the only club with a lot of $ invested in their top tier.
They have certainly had the opportunity to gain more talent than they can afford to pay over time, meaning they’ve consistently shed talent and brought in draft picks, and they cycle will continue for a while still until they hit more of an equilibrium.
I don’t really know that they could do anything much better than they do, and tbh alongside the Dogs they’re one of only two sides in the league I feel will be regularly in the premiership mix over the next decade.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

I’m not huge on him either but assume Collingwood must be fairly confident he can play a forward-ruck role, otherwise he would’ve gone somewhere where’s he more likely to be the No.1 ruck. That said, one could’ve used the same logic re Braydon Preuss.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

Maybe, Geelong haven’t exactly had a lot of poor seasons in recent memory. Different story for Essendon, though they would have the lure of Dylan Shiel and Devon Smith being there. Again, I’d be staggered if he moves.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

Shhh, don’t let 17 other clubs know…

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

Cox is actually out of contract this year too. His eye injury apparently pretty serious and Darcy Cameron seems like a direct competitor for his role, so very interested to see what happens there.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

I think you could probably get Hately for your second if you finish around that mark, just considering how cheaply their underexposed young talent has generally left over the years. Agree, if the Crows have a poor year it almost makes sense to let Crouch go and get that top five or so pick.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020

I’m on both the ‘Brad Crouch is good’ and ‘Brad Crouch is the better Crouch’ bandwagons, but I have also been carrying him in fantasy for a long time, so I might be biased there.

AFL trades: The top five out-of-contract players to watch in 2020