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Josh Elliott is a rusted-on North Melbourne tragic with a penchant for pun headlines - and also abnormal alliteration, assuredly; assuming achievability. He once finished third in a hot chilli pie eating contest. You can follow him on Twitter @JoshElliott_29.

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Yes I’ve seen that quote go around a few places as if it actually corrects anything Stephenson said, which as you say, it doesn’t.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

That does surprise me (I’ve not read the piece myself). Sounds like it was heavily impacted by the non-trade for Dunkley. It’s hard to tell what direction Essendon think they are going in.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

Lions should definitely be lauded for just how big the turnaround in terms of player movement in/out has been.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

Now that we have 18 teams all generally competitive at the same time, that “middle” section of the ladder between bottom four and playing finals is so much wider and easier to get stuck in.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

No, but compared to pick 29 particularly in this year’s draft, I think he’s a worthy acquisition.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

Hahaha. Well put, Liam.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

Looking at who’s been moved on and who still works there, if anything I’d think they were going in the opposite direction.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

I do think Martin could be a good acquisition, at the same time, he’s a million years old. Even if he does come on in a big way it’s only 1-2 years before you need to replace him again.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

Look they might have added a bit of nuance. They’re also my pet peeve when it comes to things like this. Like people who rate something out of 10 and say “5.5!”. Why rate it out of 10 if you don’t want to just use the numbers between 1 and 10?

That rant out of the way: I stand by my concerns re Treloar. The Dogs did well but I have doubts enough that I’m not confident giving them an A. May they prove me very wrong.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

I can understand Montagna’s concerns – a lot of those draft picks haven’t really come on yet and it’s possibly a little sceptical whether the Blues have really built a solid enough foundation of youth just yet to move on to the ‘mature recruits’ stage. But I think particularly in this year’s draft, it’s pretty reasonable of the Blues to be fed up with unpredictable draft picks and instead go bang bang on some primo mature talent. Hopefully it works out (and hopefully Curnow is back in a big way).

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

I would likely have given North an F if not for the Stephenson acquisition.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

Dees definitely could be deserving of an A. I’m not sold on the pick swap moves they made (though as said I admire their boldness with it) but in terms of players in/players out, it’s very good business.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

I think the Dogs got Adam Treloar at great value but I also think that, before trade period, no one would’ve said they need an Adam Treloar type. They were definitely borderline on getting an A and that’s the way most others have gone but I’m just not totally convinced. Speaking as a fan of a club that has tried to play inside midfielders in every position as a strategy for some time now, I can tell you that the midfield minutes question is definitely a genuine concern.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

They got value with the players they brought in, much as they got value on Tom Scully and Jono Patton, neither of whom are doing anything to help their dire overall list position. I think the moves they made were executed well, but not the direction they needed to go in, hence the D.

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

You could say it two ways.

“Geelong trade three first-rounders for Jeremy Cameron.”

Or…

“Geelong trade for Jeremy Cameron without giving up a top-10 pick.”

The latter is just as true and sounds pretty good!

AFL trades 2020 report card: Every club graded

Agree – and I suppose if you’re going to bid, you may as well bid with the pick that will cost your opposition the most. That said, again to make another nuffie take, I don’t think the Bombers will bid too heavily just so they can keep using the “three top ten picks” line too.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

Reasonable points. It doesn’t look like they want to use their second-rounder so I’m sure they’ll look to trade it on, but what they can get for it that’s actually valuable is hard to say.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

I don’t think they’ll have any chance of getting further up the order, unfortunately.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

I know there are a lot of draft watches who rate O’Driscoll really highly, so wouldn’t be shocked to see him go earlier.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

Downie definitely could attract a bid in the top 25, we’ve generally seen over recent drafts that except for the very highly rated ones, academy prospects tend to get bid on later rather than earlier, so I think he probably won’t get a bid that early. If it was an open draft he may well get picked before then.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

I believe it’s down to just 1. Gold Coast are apparently planning to only take the 1 pick, given that they will be able to sign 3-4 academy prospects outside the draft.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

Have to admit I agree. They were really the hardest club to pick for as I just don’t see who they could pick that is actually going to help them/want to stick around. The players who could impact right away are probably your inside mid types which they already have plenty of, the players who could actually fill the roles they need are more slow-burn types who may not be ready for a few years.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

It’s definitely a possibility. That said, I think most clubs rate the talent/certainty of next year’s draft higher than this one, so I’m not sure any will be seriously pursuing it. It would be a good move for GWS in particular if they can pull it off, but I’m not sure who if anyone will want to do a trade like that.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

Both would make sense. It’s a bit of a nuffie take but I wouldn’t be surprised if Essendon don’t bid with picks 7 or 8 specifically so they can still have the ‘three picks in a row’.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25

I think the local boy aspect could definitely be part of the attraction but as Steve mentions, the Dockers have always backed themselves to retain talent from out of state, so it probably won’t be a big factor. That being said, with no VIC prospects getting to play this year and club recruiters being limited in their travelling abilities, perhaps SA/WA clubs will trend more to players in their own state.

AFL phantom draft 2020: A very early top 25