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Yup…. see my comment below

11 former Wallaby captains sign letter calling for Rugby AU leadership resignations

P. Waugh was a member of the HR committee and never turned up to the (only) meeting recorded… as (it appears) was J. Eales who also never showed (to be fair to him the wording is unclear)

Anne Sherry only attended 75% of the board meetings….

Pip Marlow has a 75% attendance at both board meetings and the Audit & Risk committee of which she was a member….

Cameron Clyne was only slightly better….

And that was 2018….. I wonder with all the other things ‘financially’ impacting the game how many meetings are missed in the 2019 report….

11 former Wallaby captains sign letter calling for Rugby AU leadership resignations

DA…. guess it was lucky then that there was only 1 for the year….

11 former Wallaby captains sign letter calling for Rugby AU leadership resignations

LOL…. I’ll pay that….

(but I will say that’s just another phrase for shooting the messenger….)

11 former Wallaby captains sign letter calling for Rugby AU leadership resignations

I would have thought being a previous part of the board that is being criticised it would look somewhat hypocritical to put a signature to it…

11 former Wallaby captains sign letter calling for Rugby AU leadership resignations

OB – I agree.
Often when there is a major scandal, there is usually a series of odd events that don’t make sense until the facts are revealed much, much later.
Whilst the majority of indignant comments here are all about RC, my reading of the letter (as reported) states the ADMINISTRATION of the game….
The same administration where (according to the last annual report) J Eales, B Robinson, A Sherry, P McLean, P Waugh turned up to NONE of the Rugby Australia Audit and Risk Committee meetings, or the ENTIRE BOARD except for A Sherry and P McLean missing the ONLY meeting about Human Resources, or the Governance & Policy committee meetings being attended by 3 members only!

Yet this is a board running a National sport, where it appears there were Audit and Risk meetings each quarter that a large number of members didn’t bother to show for…..

I’m clearly not privy to the goings on but it strikes me as VERY odd that the accounts are still not audited, despite there being quarterly meetings…. and which RC was present at each and every one of…

RA appears to be top heavy with admin people, yet Raelene Castle did not attend a single meeting about HR, or Governance and Policy….. and this is the CEO?

I suspect there is a lot more to come.

I’d also suggest a lot of what is happening now are the signs of a frantic effort to repair compliance.

While it might be easy to shoot the messenger, what other group would have the respect/credibility to raise alarm without airing the dirty laundry?

11 former Wallaby captains sign letter calling for Rugby AU leadership resignations

Ahh. The old ‘shoot the messenger’ eh TWAS?

11 former Wallaby captains sign letter calling for Rugby AU leadership resignations

While plenty of the RA and media operatives / commentators could certainly do with a bit of that secret Lancashire martial art known as Ecky thump, the passing of Tim Brooke – Taylor from Covid 19 is a reminder that there is more important stuff out there than getting upset at whatever Alan Jones has to say.

The Wrap: Revealed! The real reason why the Wallabies bombed out of the World Cup

“The day I witnessed Michael Cheika’s unforgiving rage”

The Wrap: Revealed! The real reason why the Wallabies bombed out of the World Cup

Sorry mate but whilst you’re certainly entitled to your view on Fox, to accuse them of ‘killing the country’ in the USA is hyperbole of outlandish proportion.

CNN, Phoenix TV, MSNBC all have their own agendas as well and whilst you might identify with them doesn’t mean they are right or wrong either.

All of the above have absolutely nothing to do with Rugby in Australia….

The Wrap: Revealed! The real reason why the Wallabies bombed out of the World Cup

Gee…. For someone who makes a point of quoting ‘facts’ you sure are selective with your numbers….
RA also lost $2.4M in sponsorship directly related to the Western Force and from Western Force sponsors that year ie INCOME of $2.4M due to the removal of the team… the same year you quote the cost savings or EXPENSE in the region of $6M…
So, using ‘your’ maths…. if they had $9M in the bank and spent $7.2M ($6M – $2.4M x two years) = $1.8M in the bank…. certainly not in debt as you claim.
Now you can respond with a sidestep and go off in another direction about Forrest’s offer…..
Or you can update your ‘narrative’ to include the whole picture….. hmmmm?

The Wrap: Rugby’s ugly in-fighting just got uglier

Aaah… the old ‘make work’ bureaucracy eh? …but then they would have to be REALISTIC no? … and therein lies the problem….

The Wrap: Rugby’s ugly in-fighting just got uglier

Well if you take that point of view… what was the point of the much heralded journey to WA to smooth the waters/listen to the locals/heal the wounds tour?

Time has shown precious little has come out of that other than some platitudes at the time….

The Wrap: Rugby’s ugly in-fighting just got uglier

You have to have realistic metrics.
says who?

The Wrap: Rugby’s ugly in-fighting just got uglier

Well the first question here I think is what type of employment model applies to the players? Are they employees in the same sense as the example you’ve given? Or are they some type of subcontractor without the protections and employment rights as the other ‘75%’ you’ve quoted …… (and therefore no access to the appropriate ‘Jobkeeper’ money).

Secondly, are the players any different to an industry union/ists and the demands/negotiations/agreements made with management in both good times and bad? If you are management you might have one view of their demand for info, if you’re a unionist then you might have another. Who say’s who is right?

Finally, I agree that it’s clearly a concerted campaign by those with Foxtel/News connections. Really a bit rich of Kafer to be throwing mud after spending 2 years as an apologist for all things RA……

That said…. the fact remains that again, this is the result of what has gone on before…… Castle and/or the board wouldn’t be in this position if the Emperor indeed had some clothes.

The Wrap: Rugby’s ugly in-fighting just got uglier

😂 seriously…. ok…. here’s JUST ONE example…. in ONE country…

1998 – 78,000
1999 – 78,000
2000 – 45,000
2001 – 78,000
2002 – 78,457
2003 – 78,000
2004 – 79,722
2005 – 79,475
2006 – 79,474
2007 – 79,654
2008 – 79,275
2009 – 79,205
2010 – 79,262
2011 – 77,000
2012 – 79,612
2013 – 80,033
2014 – 80,174
2015 – 79,000
2016 – 99,124
2017 – 79,771
2018 – 78,441
2019 – 79,786

That’s around 20 years worth (not “built up in the last decade”) of consistent bums on seats….and in numbers that Super Rugby would kill for…. in just one comp… yet you reckon those national comps aren’t that strong?

I’m thinking those broadcasters know a bit more about it than you do…..

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns

I’m not picking one game…. nor have the broadcasters / advertisers who know that they get over 800,000 viewers for an evening match and over 700,000 for an afternoon match…. and you again miss the point…

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns

You’re wrong…

The money in NH national comps is coming from their own TV rights/Sponsors as they have bums on seats… eg the RFU sells the broadcasting and sponsorship rights for the Championship clubs on it’s own…

PRL also contributes to the Championship, as does the Pro14 to the Irish and Welsh Unions.

The problem with Australian rugby

I don’t agree….

I think it will break and infection rates will drop off a cliff faster than most people realize.

Anecdotal evidence of Hydroxychloroquine and it’s effectiveness will begin to reach the public consciousness and although it will still be around will be mitigated by a reasonable treatment process…. politicians warning against using it recently are now clamoring for supplies of it in the US….

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns

Lol… so you agree…… 😂

The problem with Australian rugby

Yep….My take is that the popularity of the national leagues is feeding in to the 6N comps…regardless of the international 6N team success…

Whereas here we have a kind of Heinekin Cup only and the RC internationals… with no national club league to underpin it all with tribalism and fanatical support…. nor the $$$$ from the bums on seats get overseas….

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns

Really? When was the last time we saw nearly 80,000 people turn up to a Super Rugby final? ….. year after year after year……

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns

Super 6 all over again?

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns

Yup… Seeing the trees turn green again around the lakes where I am is just beautiful at the moment also…

Watched a few local games of rugby some weeks back and had a natter with some of the locals…. State comp and the local club I’m barracking for is in the process of converting a (mud) paddock into a pitch and trying to find sponsors to enable facilities to be built.

Most clubs in the state play at the one place where there are 3 pitches…. up until a few weeks ago you need to bring mud boots while you freeze your peanuts off…

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns

I’m no disease expert, but anecdotal evidence being discussed where I am is that African countries have a lower infection rate due to the widespread use of a certain malaria treatment drug….

Yep… Hydroxychloroquine…

Everything will be on the table when rugby eventually returns