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A New Zealander born and raised in the bastion of Rugby Union in the deep South of New Zealand. A fan of rugby league since the Winfield Cup captured the attention of so many union purists and a North Sydney Bears tragic ever since. And having lived in Melbourne a follower of St Kilda in AFL.

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@ Pneuma

Which is exactly why you don’t!

Already in the name: Why sending the Tigers west makes the best sense for NRL expansion

@ Rosie

Well Central Coast Bears weren’t allowed to get off the ground despite a successful membership drive and having enough public support. So give the West Coast Bears a shot I say.

NRL News: Politis' PNG snub, radical conference shake-up in odd proposal, Sharks switch skippers

@tufanooo
I think the Bears have made and remade their position clear over and over until they’re blue in the face. Simply it is let us back in. Prey tell us why they folded as I suspect an uninformed projection of opinion.

NRL News: Politis' PNG snub, radical conference shake-up in odd proposal, Sharks switch skippers

@ Maxtruck.

Well they did stand alone for 92 years. And since the end of that sham merger they have. And they’ve done it well.
As for the sucking off the teat of other teams that’s a bit rich considering the amount of financial aid ie bail outs other teams have been given over the years. Not to mention the ever increasing amount the clubs demand from the ARL/NRL in from Broadcast revenue.

Want the Bears back? Then get real - forget about North Sydney Oval and commit to genuine NRL expansion

@ Snookers

The Central Coast Bears rebrand was a good redesign it’s just a pity it wasn’t allowed to succeed.
As for messing with the red and black I mostly agree but you could do an away or alternate jersey that reflects WA or Perths traditions and history.

Want the Bears back? Then get real - forget about North Sydney Oval and commit to genuine NRL expansion

Who do you think the Cumberland team was reborn as? Answer Parramatta they played at Cumberland Oval then renamed Parramatta Stadium if I’m not mistaken.

Want the Bears back? Then get real - forget about North Sydney Oval and commit to genuine NRL expansion

I think those who know rugby league will know the Bears and that’s a good starting point. WA is a AFL state but there’s enough union and league followers and players to establish a foothold. West Coast Bears has a certain ring to it.

Want the Bears back? Then get real - forget about North Sydney Oval and commit to genuine NRL expansion

Forty Twenty

Yeah there’s a great stadium there by all accounts and it’s there thanks to the foresight of the Bears. They planned it and they were going to be the Central Coast Bears and thanks to powers that be they’ve never gotten to use it as intended.

Want the Bears back? Then get real - forget about North Sydney Oval and commit to genuine NRL expansion

So you want to hamstring the Panthers and boost the other grand finalist you have predicted?

You might be right about moving the GF from Sydney but I don’t see it happening.

ANALYSIS: Cleary imperious as Panthers swipe Warriors aside en route to biggest ever finals win

Perhaps settling on a number is the way to go be it 18 or 20 or back to 16 but removing licenses from badly performing clubs and giving them to new entities/clubs?

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

Hi Maxtruck.
1. I didn’t say i didn’t like it I said I said I was concerned about the possibility of it going to far. I have been watching league since 1991 season and even back then there were players who would stretch and dive for the line DJ Halligan was one playing on the wing for the Bears and was it Herron for the St George team that used to do it too?
2. Read my words I said I noticed the proliferation of black I never said I didn’t like it at all. It is just some team jerseys don’t work with certain combination. And Enoch Powell was concerned when it came to the level of melanin levels in your skin rather than the qualities of the person.
3. Why 16? Why not 14? why not remove GC and Sths?

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

Waldron.

Ah Hello Yes I did because it is being dicussed on this page. You just want to argue. It is possible to have or start a discussion without having an opinion on it. What problems have I caused? None What drama have I caused? None. Except you getting worked up for no reason. If you and I mean you want to have strong opinions that is fine write your own article on the topic.

I did have strong opinion. Just on the expansion portion of my article.

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

@ Waldron
I think you are another playing the man and not the ball. So let me respond
You said at the end of your statement
“If you think there should be a discussion, cool, start the discussion”, that is exactly what I did do I started the discussion and drew attention to what could be an issue. Further you said “but at no point in your article or even in the comments do you even come close to providing even the start of a solution” I don’t have a solution why ask for a solution when all Im doing is asking is it a problem firstly and if it is, infact a risk,is it a risk too far?

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

Brett Allen
You are playing the man and not the ball. At no point in that section of my article did I call for that type of try to be banned. I merely asked the question. Risk is part of life but so is minimizing harm.

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

You may well be right but the question is worth asking.
Risks are there in other sports I agree but the NRL has a duty of care and should at least look into it.

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

@ Nat
“I don’t think we will see a new team even announced until the next broadcast deal is close.” Given their history of slowness I fear you are more likely correct than not.
I still maintain giving a new team time to prepare and having them in for a year before the next renewal would work as a sweetener to generate interest in the next TV rights period.
I don’t think “they will be paying for the new team themselves” 1 year of slightly reorganised grant money will noy make a huge difference. And if the new team is relying on NRL money to get by then I dont think that team/bid should get past the initial meeting. Any new team should be a financially independent identity. Your also correct the “next team will likely be a new destination (outside of Qld & NSW)”. I would go with Perth.

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

Tony you are obviously a wise man!
The NRL should look into these things, not to bring in a big stick but just a discussion to see what is safe and what isn’t

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

Big Gordon Yes we are looking at the same issue from two different angles. I maintain that caution is the norm and I advocate for a different approach. There have been 26 seasons in the NRL era and we have had 2 expansions or 1 if you look at the Titans as a pure exercise in re establishing the previous incarnations of a GC footy club. These came at season 10 and season 26. Where would league be now if the administrators of the 80’s had been so cautious? No Canberra No Bronco’s No Knights not to mention Steelers and the 1st GC team the seagulls. And I maintain that the NRL should look at expanding and if a new team isn’t working not be afraid to remove it as you said there are no shortage of bidders wanting to be part of the action.

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

Big G.
You are correct in your point and history shows that snails move quicker than the NRL has traditionally on expansion. But that was the thrust of my argument that I hope I got across and my opinion that the time of inactivity and ‘kicking the can down the road’ should stop. I would like them, to use another often used cliche, and ‘strike while the iron is hot’.
I think regardless of where on the table the Dolphins finished their inaugural season it should be considered a success for the club. More importantly it was a success for the NRL in general with the amount of coverage and discussion that they generated, it would be interesting to know if it lifted viewership and attendance?
Those highly paid designers of new jumpers do not need encouragement and especially not to go overboard on pink in regards to the Barbie movie. We don’t want another repeat of the Marvel themed fiasco do we?

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

Theatrics or not is it still a risk worth taking ? At the moment it is apparently. What I would like to see is some proactive action taken by officials rather than a reactive approach should an accident occur. As I fully admit I may be seeing an issue that doesn’t exist but what if I’m wrong and it is a matter of time before a player is seriously injured.

Is a try worth risking a severe neck or spinal injury? Three burning questions the NRL must answer

@ The Barry
‘It’s definitely up to the weak clubs to get their act together’ That is only partially true , yes you can expect all clubs to get their act together and the organized clubs will take advantage of disorganized or badly run clubs but clubs that have financial clout will be able to survive mismanagement. But you get 1 thing wrong in a lesser club and you are in a death spiral where as a premium club will write of those loses and just reset the program. All clubs get the same NRL grant that’s equality but if you give less to those that have more and more to those that have less then that’s equity.

It should be an NRL September to remember... But why does it all seem so familiar?

Great article !
And great analysis of the stats. It seems stark when you break it down like that.
Maybe there is the element of sour grapes to your analysis but at least you can confess to that. Let me cheer you up with this thought. Your club the Bulldogs isn’t one of those top teams at the moment. You are in the metaphorical building and you can work your way up to the Penthouse. I am a Bears supporter and we got evicted and are still trying to get back in. I would kill for the chance just to be in.
As for the competition this year Go Panthers I would not begrudge them the threepeat. And as far as sour grapes go as long as Cronulla keep missing out we still have more Premierships than them! 😂

It should be an NRL September to remember... But why does it all seem so familiar?

Pity thoughts don’t come easy for the NRL let alone action!

Bennett in high demand as multiple NRL expansion clubs line up to offer him inaugural coaching job

Birdy
Sorry about your pooch!
I am so sorry to hear you feel so strongly on the Wests /Balmain merger. I as a Bears supporter was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I have been frustrated by the lack of seriousness in NRL circles over bringing the Bears back in. 24 seasons is a long time to wait. I would gladly take the opportunity to support a West Coast Bears outfit but would not want any other club supporters to be in that position ( except Manly I would take extreme delight in their demise) .

Bennett in high demand as multiple NRL expansion clubs line up to offer him inaugural coaching job

Birdy
I think you are the optimist of the year. Once that licence got handed in or revoked it would be almost certainly be the end. Do you think that you could get a Tigers outfit in WA with a black and yellow colour scheme like the Richmond Tigers so soon if that were to happen.. I reckon a wooden spoon is better than being on the outside looking in.

Bennett in high demand as multiple NRL expansion clubs line up to offer him inaugural coaching job

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