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There has been a lot of talk on the Roar about establishing another national Rugby Union competition. I think it is time to be…
Don’t like it at all sorry.
2013 – Perth and 2nd Brisbane
2017 – 2nd NZ and either Sunshine Coast / Central QLD or Central Coast (only if a Sydney team falls over)
20 teams, done.
Proposing a future NRL expansion model
Please, come to Newcastle.
We could use a new cricket ground.
Where should the AFL expand from 2012?
The Kiwis in Melb have been watching a fantastic RL side for the past 10 years – I wouldn’t be too sure they are going to drop them overnight.
The winners and losers from code expansion
Thanks for the giggle.
According to the other codes, RL has been on its deathbead for 102 years….
The winners and losers from code expansion
Fair point, but I would suggest that the value of a sport to TV has a lot more to do with ratings than crowds….
The winners and losers from code expansion
@MagpieFlag – that does not make the GWS grounds a good investment for NSW taxpayers. There is an existing stadium that was purposely compromised for the state’s main codes so that AFL could play there… and then they won’t play there!
The winners and losers from code expansion
CC Bears = navel gazing.
Stop trying to spin this bizzare assertion that another team in an already crowded market is going to help existing teams.
The winners and losers from code expansion
so does omitting over 10% of Australia’s population from ratings figures, but the AFL cheerleaders are more than happy to do that…..
The winners and losers from code expansion
@ Clipper – agreed.
I look forward to the NSW Govt building a dedicated RL stadium in the olympic precinct (30k would do fine) to alleviate the embarrassment.
The winners and losers from code expansion
We know why the AFL got the bigger deal – and as much as you AFLers don’t like to admit it, it had nothing to do with ratings.
New era has NRL clubs feeling giddy
Might make perfect sense from Foxtel’s POV, but from RL’s POV they should be looking to offer ALL games to FTA broadcasters.
If Foxtel won’t pay true worth, sell the games to someone who will.
We don’t need a pay tv presence – but they desperately need us.
New era has NRL clubs feeling giddy
and Blacktown for GWS too.
Why arent they using ANZ stadium?
The winners and losers from code expansion
I look forward to your scientific proof of your assertions.
The winners and losers from code expansion
Jason, why would the S15 agree to any more Australian franchises?
It will be interesting to see if the Rebels have access to the revenue required to thrive – let alone Adelaide….
The winners and losers from code expansion
I don’t know that the dislike of the Swans was anywhere near the level of that directed at GWS. I think for the most part they were ignored.
Sydney’s influence in sport is overrated. The city is a shambles, which hinders any sort of sustained sporting passion – and makes smaller suburban grounds the only particularly sustainable model. Sydney needs complete infrastructure reform before it chokes to death.
Gallop may be NRL chief, but he isn’t a Rugby League person. I am sure he could do whatever News Ltd told him to do as head of the FFA just as well as he does as head of the NRL.
The winners and losers from code expansion
The AFL wil lose…..bucketloads of money, that is.
Good on them for having a go… and while GC may attract enough expats to get by, I can’t see GWS being anything but a train wreck… that threatens to drag the Swans down with them. The locals’ attitudes to the Giants range from amusement to outright hostility… the only groundswells are disbelief that the AFL are actually doing it, and outrage that the NSW Govt. is funding it. What happens when they turn out to be a bad joke? Do they get relocated, wound up, or persevered with?
The A-League made a big mistake putting an AFL administrator in charge – he brought his expansion arrogance with him, and they are paying the price. When a grand total of one club in your comp is currently sustainable, you have some major issues.
Rugby is now maxed out in Australia – good for them. S15 is a great concept for Rugby in Australia as it is just the right size and mix. The last few years have actually seen a much better standard of game, too (if only they would reduce the points for drop and penalty goals, but I digress). Will NZ and SA endure with it though, and when will it capture the public’s imagination?
NRL is the real unknown quantity. It is the code with the most demand for expansion, but the weakest commitment to it. The next 2 years will be very interesting – do they show some gumption and take a strategic view (WA, 2nd NZ, 2nd SEQ) or navel gaze (CC, no expansion)?
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*Sydney fans…. who don’t really support anything in great numbers.
Given their size, Newcastle and Central Coast get reasonable A-League crowds.
Why don't Aussies take to football?
David Gallop is your man.
Please, take him….
Is it time to consider Frank Lowy's successor?
yes, Victorian Rules may have taken over Rugby eventually, had League not been the more attractive proposition.
My issue is that you make it sound like some sort of conspiracy to keep VFL down.
It was nothing of the sort – League came to be in Sydney in order to remunerate Rugby players – not to “counter” VFL.
Why don't Aussies take to football?
Of course Victorian Rules has a presence in the northern states – it has had a lot of help from the media, expats and head office to obtain it. No one is denying a presence exists.
But it is not “integral” to its culture, any more than basketball (which has a similar scale presence) is integral to Sydney’s culture, or either rugby code is “integral” to Melbourne’s culture.
Demetriou wants to win Australia's new arrivals
“I know Sydney well and would say the ‘Australian’ game is definately integral to it’s culture”
you are right – Rugby League is integral to the culture of Sydney.
Demetriou wants to win Australia's new arrivals
The rules of modern Rugby League (6 tackles, no breakdown etc) were largely developed in Australia.
It is as “Aussie” as Victorian Rules is – both are bastardisations of the english game, Union (which is what the original League (the “Northern Union”) played).
Demetriou wants to win Australia's new arrivals
He was spot on – I guess the truth hurts.
Demetriou wants to win Australia's new arrivals
To be fair, the sports journalist bar is set _incredibly_ low in Australia.
Print would have to be the worst, because unlike TV they are actually supposed to sit and think critically about the issues before writing an article – and they usually fail miserably at everything except pushing a painfully transparent agenda.
Hell, often they can’t even get the facts right.
I could count the good sports journalists in this country on one hand, and still have fingers left.
Sports stars don't make good journalists