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And here I was thinking supporters wanted their team to be successful.

Five talking points from AFL Round 22

Probably right, but we dont slide down from a big loss, you blokes do.

Five talking points from AFL Round 22

They will beat the Crows by 10 goals this week unless the Ballarat weather is true to form

Five talking points from AFL Round 22

I reckon yesterday he decided he was really going to enjoy his last couple of games, throwing out baulks every chance he got.
He certainly could have got another year but Simmo’s form has been just as good (the way he took the game on when we were 3 points down in the last a number of times was sensational) and I don’t think we can have both in the side next year.

Five talking points from AFL Round 22

It was a great game to be at, the energy of the crowd was great, the umps played the villain nicely and the momentum swings and lead changes were great. My daughters reaction to seeing her first Carlton win live was priceless.

There will be plenty of teams who won’t enjoy playing in front of the blues crowd next year.

Five talking points from AFL Round 22

Not sure how much the blues process was “co-opted” as much as Teague simply emerged through process as the best candidate. Voss apparently tanked his interviews, Scott never put his hand up and Lyon and Clarkson are staying put all the while the club had front row seats to Teague performing impeccably.
No mention if the Stocker trade this week Josh? Looks like it could be 3 for 8 (4 for 9 if the Suns get a priority) and Stocker which can’t be a bad deal for the blues. The Crows are really lucky this year 7 wins only gets 16th, last time the blues won 7 it was good enough for 14th.

Five talking points from AFL Round 22

I saw a rumour today we are offering well north of $1.1m and he is more likely that not to come (60/40) also saw that the Swans want 2 first rounders for Papley which we are rightly passing on but Jack Martin and Darby Cameron (Sydney back up ruck) are as good as done

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

Maxine, once again you show how little you know. Have a look at Ed Curnow and Patrick Cripps comments immediately after the Brisbane game before you go spouting off about Bolton losing the leadership group.

You may also want to see all the other players who have referenced all the work Bolton put in that they are now able to build off.

Bolton did a power of working building a strong culture and leadership, he was too slow to move into a more aggressive style but Teague will have a lot to thank him for.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

“Because their direction was changed by factors beyond their control?” That is exactly what the process is, opening yourself up to factors beyond their control.

If they only considered “factors under their control” they wouldn’t have changed direction.

Carlton have grown up by appointing Teague

“I don’t think that they reached Y by following the process at all” What you think and what happened are far removed.

There is a very good article (I think in the Age) today about how all the players completed a psychological profile which was then combined and used to match up with the traits the candidates demonstrated in their profile. Do you think they simply went through all that (and wasted the time of the 5 panelists one of which runs a recruiting company) simply to bow to fan pressure?

The one thing I will say is that Teague had the advantage of incumbency, he got to perform on game day in front of the likes of Brad Lloyd and he got to put some runs on the board but again this isn’t the process getting away from them, just them going where the process took them.

Carlton have grown up by appointing Teague

“I have already noticed though a tendency here for people to manipulate statistics and history to either support their own club or sink the slippers into those they don’t.” You could always stop.
You arew also aware that the BigFooty threads are open to all supporters so it may not have been “in fighting”.
And do you care to share the “rumours” or are you simply going to smear Thomas’ reputation with innuendo and leave it at that?

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

I’ve been lucky, I’ve unintentionally picked Walkers last game and Simmo’s 300th.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

“Im sure there are plenty more” Name as many as you can since Malthouse was sacked.

Bolton worked hard on improving the blues leadership and culture – that is going to pay dividends long term.

Stephenson and Sier is a leadership issue, these things don’t happen if you have good leadership and your club doesn’t talk up how great a person Stephenson and and how courageous he was to “self report” when he had actually been busted doing a very silly thing.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

1. Ohh warm weather, why didn’t you say so, that worth uprooting your family for. Next you will be telling me there is some sort of beach up there.
2. Having played over 250 games with 2 of the biggest clubs in the game he won’t be short of opportunities to develop his skills ” for either Coaching / Manager / well being / development.” in Melbourne and not have to go through another gruelling pre-season only to get flogged every week playing in front 12k at your home games.
3. If Thomas is looking for a pay day after 14 years in the system, coming over to the blues on big dollars and doing all the media work he has done he has some sort of addiction.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

Yep and Thomas lived through that time, so why at 32 would he want to go to the Gold Coast (which lets face it no matter how bad Carlton got they were still a big club, in a big town which is the centre of the sport while the Suns are in a cultural waste land where no sporting team has ever had success) and do it all again.
He has done his penance. Prometheus had a better time.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

JamesH – to me this is just more evidence the process worked.

They went in thinking they wanted X but following the process it determined that Y was the best option. They didn’t stick with their pre-conceived ideas they allowed the process to dictate.

Carlton have grown up by appointing Teague

Hopefully Col, my oldest (and Carlton supporting) daughter is yet to see us win live and is sick of her sister celebrating the saints victories.

I have a funny feeling about the Cats game, depending on how this weeks results go they could have very little to play for and may rest 1 or 2.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

Of course they could, however Stevens played his last game with the club in 2009 and was at the club during incredibly dark times where leadership was lacking, Scotland was sanctioned by the club with 2 game suspension and $3k fine (not counting De Goey who only was suspended for games he was going to miss through injury anyway how many games has COLLINGWOOD suspended these players for) and his incident occurred in 2012 and then Garlett, who along with Yarran and Robinson the club was warned would go off the rails without Betts’ leadership – thanks again Mick , mucked up in 2015 and was delisted.
So that is 3 players over close to a decade, the most recent incident was almost 5 year ago and all of whom I admit were failed by the club to various degrees and the two who transgressed while at the club were puniched by the club (Garlett quite severely)- Collingwood have had 4 incidents in less than 2 years but you still think there is nothing wrong.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

He played it round 11, unfortunately he forgot to show up.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

Players are human but the club has to do as much as possible to look the mind and soul as much as the body.

The pies seem to have these issues come up over and over again and all we hear is how great the player is and that it isn’t a big deal.

If the blues had a player done for drink driving, another done for doing drugs, another done fro gambling and another lying to the club and playing suburban basketball while in rehab all in the space of 18 months I would be ropable and questioning the leadership at the club and no doubt all the footy shows would be doing weeks on it and calling for numerous sackings – but at Collingwood it is simply boys will be boys.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

Why would he want to do that to himself!

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

Hey Col, I am heading down for my annual Carlton St Kilda game tomorrow, can’t believe I lucked out to see Crippa’s 100th, Teagues first as full time coach and Daisy’s last home game.

I reckon it might be a cracker game.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

“his willingness to work with the young blokes and demonstrate the amount of hard work” is leadership is it not.

As I said yesterday a couple of glasses of win is hardly in the same category as drink driving doing drugs, gambling or lying to the club.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement

OK Pete he is an absolute gun and a model of consistency who is only held back by the fact he isn’t good enough or fit enough to displace the likes of Treloar, Pendlebury, etc from the midfield

As for being better than any blues player except Cripps – well he hasn’t won a club B&F let a lone been All Australian so I would take Murphy and Docherty over him for a start and while players like Kade Simpson, Liam jones and Ed Curnow will be able to walk away from their careers knowing they got every last ounce out of their careers I have serious doubts De Goey will eb able to do the same.

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 22

Simpson hasn’t had the injury issues Thomas has and has a pretty special place in blues supporters hearts that Thomas doesn’t.

Plus Simpson has probably just shaded Thomas in terms of output this year.

Carlton veteran Dale Thomas announces AFL retirement