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Strange attitude given your team has come “last” a lot on that basis.

Carlton finally have what they've been missing

The blues kicked 16 goals on the weekend well above their average of 10.3 (prior to round 6 they were averaging 9.2 which would have them equal 7th with the Suns based on post round 6 averages)

They kicked 103 points well above their average of 70.5 (prior to this round they were averaging 63.4 good enough for 7th in the league based on post round 6 averages)

They had 41 inside 50’s, just below their average of 43.7

They had 10 marks inside 50 below their average of 11.3

Carlton finally have what they've been missing

So because the blues are unlikely to win the flag they are not good – if you’re not first you’re last?

Carlton finally have what they've been missing

Lets just get a won this week before we start polishing the silverware.

Carlton finally have what they've been missing

The blues are behind just Port, Geelong and St Kilda for goals per game this year, behind just Port and Brisbane in points scored per game, number 1 in the league for marks inside 50 and number 5 (behind Port Brisbane, Richmond and Geelong) for inside 50’s – but sure, it was just that the Bulldogs are our Bunnies.

Carlton finally have what they've been missing

Yep Port seem to belt Carlton when they aren’t playing well so big task this weekend.

The Melbourne game will definitely hurt, but grab an upset this weekend and it squares the ledger.

Carlton finally have what they've been missing

So you are saying we will never know ( ie time won’t tell) but you already know?
And first you said “Carlton can’t maintain the level of pressure they brought on Sunday” which implies the whole game but now you say “they couldn’t even do it for a whole game” which means you were only referring to a part of the game?
You might be right the blues might not be able to bring that level of pressure every week, but they may not need to – there are plenty of teams they haven’t played that are worse than the bulldogs and they don’t have to win every game by 50 points.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

8 & 9 wins won’t get you to 8th.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

The week before was McKay’s first game back and it turned out Casboult had been told he had 24 hours to find somewhere else to live just the day before – possibly could have been factors?

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

Not playing in Melbourne could be better for us, not games at Marvel.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

I have never singled out the blues Peter, they are just one of half a dozen or so teams that are trying to save football from the likes of you stodgy lot who having assembled one of the best midfields in the comp want to utilise that talent flooding back into defensive 50.

Have you managed to take a look at the game yet Peter? Even in wet conditions there was plenty of players willing to take the 45 kick into the corridor to open the game up.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

When the season went to 17 rounds the consensus was that 10 games would get you to 8th, think that would be the case

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

“Carlton can’t maintain the level of pressure they brought on Sunday; no-one can.” Time will tell.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

I agree if we can play our best footy we can beat anyone, I just need a few more games of us doing it consistently before I get too excited.

I think the hub may actually have helped the blues, they seem to have taken a great attitude into it of wanting to enjoy the experience and have fun. Getting a big win against good opposition first up should feed that excitement and enthusiasm.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

Sunday will be a massive test but at least we aren’t going into it 2-4 or 1-5 and needing to win keep our season alive.

I haven’t seen Port play much this year but they seem to be playing a good style of footy so hopefully it should be an entertaining game. If we can bring that intensity we had on the weekend we are a chance. At least we don’t have them at Adelaide Oval where we have taken some massive hiding at their hands.

Selection will be interesting, especially if Jack is fit. Great to have some real competition for spots and good players unable to squeeze into the side.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

That is the aim isn’t it, no one winning a Coleman but everyone capable of being a threat and chiming in with a couple of goals a game.
Long time since we have had that.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

9-8 under Teague.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

Agree there is a long way to go for the blues but the Saints game wasn’t “putrid” and we a approaching the point where this is no longer just 1 swallow. For example;

1) the blues have won something like 18 of 24 quarters so far this year
2) Their 3 wins have all come against decent sides
3) The blues are top 5 in the league on average for goals scored (4th), inside 50’s (5th), Marks inside 50 (1st) and points scored (3rd).

There was still plenty of things that need working on from Sunday’s game and I doubt we will end up in the 8 but there is plenty of positives – not leat of which was having a big win without Cripps or Docherty having a significant impact.

The last time Carlton were in the top eight

How is being televised on TV anything to do with the “integrity of the competition”
1) So we are currently “penalising” teams that don’t have a big supporter base or didn’t make finals last year? The system is already arbitrary. Teams are already being removed from FTA games because of their performances in the prior year weren’t “entertaining” enough.
2) No one is forcing teams to remove players from behind the ball – simply encouraging teams to try and score.
3) I don’t think it is really up for debate which game was the better to watch out of Carton V Bulldogs or Richmond V Sydeny but again these subjective views are already being made – I am simply applying a different critera.

Six talking points from AFL Round 6

Again, not about my team, there are plenty of sides playing attacking footy only being seen on Fox while FTA (who also pay a pretty penny) get defensive bore fests.

Six talking points from AFL Round 6

😂 😂 So I was supposedly 5 years ago (at the start of the Carlton rebuild) I was saying Brisbane and Carlton were on a similar path and 4 years ago I said Carlton were 1 year behind (which given the age profile, recruiting timing and performance is pretty accurate) – gee whiz talk about a contradiction. Take Neale out of the Lions and put him at Carlton and the teams would change places.
As for you questions – you for some unknown reason you think the current scenario is fair and not based on what the AFL perceive as gaining the best ratings, I am simply suggesting that instead of basing it on historic ladder positions or member sizes you base it on recent performances. Teams scoring less than 45 points consistently don’t get TV games.
As for you liking a tight contest, who doesn’t but what we are being given isn’t a man to man battle but a siege where a team is simply being starved out.

Six talking points from AFL Round 6

“Nooo, you made those comments later after you realised they were not at the same stage as Brisbane under Bolton vs Fagan. Adding a year was you merely saving face.” 😂 😂 😂 So I have only been saying it for 4 years when the blues rebuild stated 5 years ago.
But both teams did “rebuild” no?
And if you go through and look at the age profiles of the young players, the draft years and the results you will see my 1 year behind is an accurate assessment.

“However, if the overwhelming majority decide that change is needed, then I have no issue with reforming the rules.” And I think you don’t change the rules you allow the coaches to adapt, as you can see the likes of Dew, Ratten, & Teague are.

“I do have a problem with clubs being bribed by the AFL to play a particular style of football, which is what you are proposing here, Macca.” No I am proposing using the floating fixture to maximise the entertainment value. If clubs want to play boring football to give themselves what they perceive is the best chance of winning so be it.

The answer to you questions can be quite simple,
Has this team regularly scored below 45 points this season.
Does this team play multiple players behind the ball.
Have their recent games actual been worth watching.

As for fairness, the current system isn’t fair so why should this one be.

Can it easily be abused by individual clubs utilising internal politics? No more so than the current one.

“I don’t mind closer, tightly-fought contests.” I quite like tightly fought contests as well, unfortunately games like the Colligwood Hawthorn and Richmond Sydney are closely fought – they aren’t hand to hand combat they are siege warfare where one side simply starves out the other while sporadically catapulting rocks over the walls.

Six talking points from AFL Round 6

“I didn’t see the Blues Dogs game” Give it a look, fantastic football and send through a copy to Eddie, wet conditions and the skills were pretty high – no need for extra grip on the ball.

Six talking points from AFL Round 6

Then play St Kilda, the Bulldogs, Suns, Port, Lions or even the dockers instead of the slop your team serves up.

Six talking points from AFL Round 6

” I remember having a similar discussion years ago about the Lions and Carlton. You argued that Brisbane was no further developed than Carlton”You remember incorrectly – I have long said Brisbane were about 1 year ahead of the blues in the REBUILD and that appears not far off.

“You are not wise enough to understand the ramifications of what you are suggesting, Macca.” 😂 😂 Says the bloke who doesn’t seem to understand what I am saying.

“As for your point regarding the ‘rewarding’ of teams that play attract football: it’s ludicrous!” Televised football is a product, it is entertainment – if the AFL want to stay relevant and continue to grow the need to showcase the best games. Watching Richmond V Sydney or Collingwood Hawthorn isn’t going to do that.

“I’ve mentioned on numerous occasions that the coaches and clubs should have zero say in how the rules are both adjudicated and/or reformed. This is up to the AFL and the Rules Committee” The AFL are the ones who decide the fixture aren’t they not the clubs or coaches?

Six talking points from AFL Round 6