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Sorry, you ended up with our 2018 second round pick(19) which you traded back to us with your 2019 first round pick for our 2019 first round pick.
How was that pick also traded to GWS?

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Gee Sammy I only meant would he come back to the blues – you seem a little sensitive.
On the Gibbs deal, you forgot we got your 2018 second rounder as well.
As for 16 we essentially traded it for Kennedy, an upgrade from pick 40 to pick 30 in 2017 which allowed us to get Tom De Koning (who looks a bargain) and the Bulldogs 2018 second rounder which we combined with your 2018 second rounder we got in the Gibbs deal to get McGovern.
So essentially we swapped Gibbs and Hamill for O’Brien (who is farfrom a bust) Kennedy, McGovern and an upgrade from 40 to 30 in 2017 which got us TDK – I am pretty confident we got the better end of the deal.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Sammy – I am interested in Gibbs being dropped again, I didn’t see the game last week but the stats suggest he was a pretty handy contributor – thoughts?

Could the blues pull a Croad?

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Wayne – Goddard was in no condition to return by the time Docherty got injured, Gibbs is currently out of Adelaides side and then Suns would be below us if McGovern was standing a metre back in our game against them.

Carlton's nuts and Bolts rebuild

Melbourne went from 10th oldest in 2015 to 15th in 2016 (Roos last year as coach) the blues have gone from 7th in 2015 to 16th in 2019 (17th in games played).
And 7 years after Roos took over what have the deed achieved

Carlton's nuts and Bolts rebuild

Perhaps you could look at the age profiles of the the blues side over the 4 years compared to Melbourne under Roos?

Perhaps you could look at the list starting point of each coach?

Perhaps you could look at the age and experience of the side the blues put out on the weekend?

Perhaps you could look at how the young players drafted in the last 4 years are progressing?

Carlton's nuts and Bolts rebuild

Few do.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

The question was how high do the blues have to finish, 16th seems the number and very doable.
Also I don’t really think the blues need another 18 year old mid, Fisher, SPS, Dow, Walsh, Stocker, Setterfield & Cuningham will mature into a very strong midfield group.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

While reeling in blue fin on a hand line in a tinny off lakes entrance.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Yep it really sounds like “me and all my mates and bigwigs I have lunch with love the 6-6-6 format”

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 10

7-8 players under 50 games who are playing out of pockets or off flanks around Rance, Astbury, Martin, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Edwards etc is a little different to a team like the blues who have their inexperienced players filling key positions and only have 6 players with over 100 games to help them out.

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 10

9 with under 50 games? The blues put up 12 last week!! 😉

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 10

Every team except Brisbane, their injury list has been incredibly small in the last 31 games.

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 10

Brendan – no point demanding more if it isn’t there to give.

A lot of people like to compare the blues to the Lions but if you look at the Lions midfield they have Robinson, Lyons, Zorko and of course Neale running around in there for the young mids to develop around – the blues have Cripps then 18-20 year olds.

Now the blues youngsters have much higher ceilings than Robinson & Lyons and will be much better for the experience they are getting this year but expecting them to be matching the Lions efforts this year is illogical.

That said we should expect more than the GWS and North efforts, perfromance like the Bulldogs, Hawthorn and Collingwood games should become the norm, but we shouldn’t be surprised when that shocker comes along.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Weren’t they already a combination?
He did call me Mecca above which was a Matty trait.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Billbob is doing a good job proving your point.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Same era? In 2007 when Riewoldt debuted 11 of 16 sides kicked more than 2,000 points for the year, in 2018 5 of 18 sides did it.

In 2007 the lowest scoring side was St Kilda who kicked 1,874 points, in 2018 half the competition kicked less than that.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

HTH after he has had the majority of a slab Pete.

4 posts in 10 minutes (why didn’t he just use the edit function), all seem to be answering a question that wasn’t asked and none of which make much sense.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Cuningham makes a big difference up forward as well.

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 10

for a start Riewoldt and Curnow aren’t playing the same role or in the same era and secondly Curnow has had very little continuity this year and third just because you aren’t going at Riewoldt’s “elite” level doesn’t mean you are in line to be dropped.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

The blues didn’t have 100 points kicked against them in the first 6 rounds, after losing Simpson and Newman for round 7, then Jones for round 8 and Plowman and Williamson (but getting Newman back in) in round 9 they have conceded 100 points every week.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

I reckon after the North loss there was 4 just on that.

And even Josh’s talking points generally have a Carlton mention each week.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Yet you have numerous commentators claiming the blues get a free ride from the media.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Yep stats up across the board.
The other thing people overlook is the role these young blokes are playing, the blues have shifted Ed Curnow out of the middle into the forward line and have Murphy playing outside on the wing and using Fisher, SPS, Dow etc as the main on ballers.
They have been given more challenging roles and are still putting up bigger numbers.
It is also a lot about perception, last year Charlie Curnow had 5 games where he had less than 10 possessions and another 3 where he had 12 or less, yet people only the big games and then start questioning his form when so far the only game where he has less than 12 possessions is when he got injured in the first quarter against Port. Even after his 17 possession 9 mark, 4 tackle 1 goal game against the Suns people were bagging him out.

Are Carlton's young players actually improving?

Not so much a tip but anyone with Cripps in their supercoach team make him captain this week.

In 2017 & 2018 Cripps has had less than 20 possessions 3 times, in the following 3 games he has had a total of 110 possession, 17 tackles and 21 clearances.

The Roar's AFL expert tips and predictions: Round 10