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Marty Gleason

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Footy: The Doggies won the 2016 Premiership!! Soccer: From Ronaldo to Ronaldinho to Messi and seemingly back to another Ronaldo. Full circle!

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In reality Stack’s indiscretions all came from not being the type of personality that can stay still during a lockdown/quarantine.

Cotchin vows to help out troubled Stack

Once Selwood and Hawkins go the soul of the club is gone, it’s just mercenaries at that point.

Why 2021 is this Geelong side's last shot at premiership glory

My comment is not very scientific but Geelong always seem to rebound somehow. I thought they were done in both 2015 and the end of 2018 but they always reinvent (with money, but still).
They are far too star-dependent to win the flag but they can keep reaching the top 4 forever.
You’re right though, once Hawkins and Selwood go there is surely a reckoning. I don’t agree that they have the young players.

Why 2021 is this Geelong side's last shot at premiership glory

Minor premiers have been on a hiding to nothing since about 2015 on. A lot of less than comprehensive teams have finished top lately, also a lot who were way better at the start of the year than in August-September.
It probably shows how lopsided the draw can be, and/or how Vic-centric the competition.
Freo 15 – Peaked too early, also had holes (attack wasn’t good enough).
Adelaide 17 – Could fall apart with regularity.
Richmond 18 – Peaked too early
Geelong 19 – Peaked too early
Port 20 – Too inexperienced.

Minor premiers, major failures: Which ladder leaders have disappointed the most come finals time?

Hey man, your five reasons to watch x team columns were really cool! 😁

The inevitable truth: No-one had a chance against Dustin Martin

Oh yeah you took the words right out of my mouth regarding Walls and Blight. The Ten commentary years didn’t do it for me at all.

My most memorable commentary moments in modern AFL finals

He was insanely good in his West Coast days in general as you said but after the first quarter I don’t personally believe he was that special in the 05 GF. Probably no one else was any better individually I guess.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

I almost added that in as a contrast to how good Cometti and McAvaney were, but didn’t.

Kenneth Wolstenholme: “Some people are on the pitch, they think it’s all over. It is now!”
Brian Taylor: “F-k.”

My most memorable commentary moments in modern AFL finals

I was never that big on “Leo Barry, you star.” Doesn’t have much gravitas. “NIck Davis! I see it, but I don’t believe it” is surely the one. Anthony Hudson was actually pretty good at those, he also did “Who would have thought the sequel would be as good as the original” in the 2006 GF, which I suspect he might have had up his sleeve in advance.

Five clutch grand final moments that have been unfairly forgotten

A lot of Judd’s stats were in the first quarter though, after that he played a regular game. West Coast didn’t even win.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

Just for argument’s sake he didn’t hugely stand out in the 2017 GF. But Richmond were more a collective and no one does for them really.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

Judd got a Norm Smith and an extra Brownlow on reputation.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

A lot to digest here, I had to think through all your points. Geelong stoppage wins –> Geelong ball control.
I had somewhat lazily assumed the opposite, that Richmond’s pure pressure is the perfect game style to disrupt Geelong, as Geelong conceivably don’t have the free players to pass to and things then break down.
Brave gameplan by Geelong this year, I gotta say. Very precise and a lot can go wrong.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

Richo’s year on the wing was really stunning, you’d have never thought he had it in him. Didn’t he almost win the Brownlow that year?

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

Surely Danger does cover more ground as a mid. He’s a more pure midfielder than Dusty but also a more pure forward than Dusty as well when he is up there, which is funny. Dusty just does what he does I guess.

I can never “see” the in-and-under types like Cotchin, Selwood, Dahlhaus at the Bulldogs etc when I watch a match. They influence a match but beyond my comprehension of what they actually do. Cotchin’s ball use is not great but his pressure is very good I think, which is guess is Richmond Trademark.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

My worry is that Paddy up front is not necessarily in charge of whether he can influence the game or not.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

Until last weekend I had my doubts about whether post-Gold Coast Ablett was still up to the pace. The sight of Cochin spinning him inside out in last year’s PF kind of said it all.
I don’t reckon Richmond will give him the space he’d want, and he doesn’t have the pace to create it himself now. Still great skills though.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

Cheers! I don’t actually think it’s a direct battle between them as such, it mostly about which collective delivers really. You’d think Richmond are less prone to breaking down than Geelong.

Martin versus Dangerfield may decide the flag

The dream will always be to ramp up the pretension and stuff my articles with so many literary quotes that eventually my writing will become as unreadable as Ulysses 😁

The quixotic quest of Luke Beveridge

Captain Ahab is a direct quote from Martin Flanagan’s book about the premiership, ‘A wink from the universe’.

Dogs have the mids but not the key position players, I’m not really holding my breath about them to be honest.

Thanks for the comment!

The quixotic quest of Luke Beveridge

You’re absolutely right. Dickson got 10, Smith 8, Picken 8, I know the stats off by heart.

Without D and P’s goals they don’t win generally, without S they don’t win prelim.

By my outlook here Dickson was the most important for providing a forward line focal point, important for this mythical “structure” I was talking about. Picken did the same thing against West Coast (all those contested marks). Cheers!

The quixotic quest of Luke Beveridge

But the sweet spot was bigger than you think, I reckon the comp was pretty formless from start 2017 to mid 2019. West Coast and Collingwood were two very random teams to meet on the big day.
Dunno what I’m actually trying to argue here, just being conversational 😁

The quixotic quest of Luke Beveridge

Thanks very much! Maybe I am on the side of winners too easily, but Geelong I couldn’t tell if it was just missed chances or they simply couldn’t penetrate, I didn’t feel it was a given they’d pull away from Port Adelaide despite being on top. Eagles on the other hand could have easily won, both teams played well. Sorry for the tangent away from the Bulldogs 😂

The quixotic quest of Luke Beveridge

Pretty much agree with everything you’ve said.

The quixotic quest of Luke Beveridge

I think the premiership team did have a game plan though: win the hard ball, handball a lot, flood the forward line with a press (it was arguably the early days of teams doing this), zonal denfence. It was frenetic and at that moment in time not counterable. Cheers for the comment.

The quixotic quest of Luke Beveridge