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Some interesting insights there, particularly that we’ve tried to win with spin forever and it hasn’t worked so back your strengths with the quicks. I’m inclined to agree (we can’t do any worse than the last test) but would go Murphy over Lyon. He’s more suited to the low and slow SC pitches with more side spin than over the top as Lyon bowls. Thats why he was so much more effective in the previous test. With Head back in you have another reasonably effective spinner. Disagree about Warner, the clocks ticking and all he’s doing is chewing up games of experience that could be going into a younger option in the lead up to the Ashes.
Drop Murphy, pick just one spinner, Head returns: Border wants to ‘harden up’ Aussies with major changes
Clearly an East Coast conspiracy, just trying to keep him out of the WA team with finals coming up! 😛
Green on track, Starc doubtful means Kuhnemann close to joining list of Aussie spin bolters who sink or swim
I suppose the point I’m making is wherever he’s training he shouldn’t play until he’s 100%. I love to see him getting some experience in India, but only when he’s good to go.
Green on track, Starc doubtful means Kuhnemann close to joining list of Aussie spin bolters who sink or swim
Fair enough Barb.
'We believe in what we're doing': Aussies reject AB's 'harden up' blast in wake of India shambles
Given the situation I really don’t think it’s worth risking further damage to the ‘bowling finger’ of such a young player. Nerve damage is a possibility which has long term consequences. Starc’s a different story, he’s at the other end of his career. While we’re at it I’m still waiting for a response to the pretty straightforward questions around purposefully misquoting AB. I assume they’ve gone into the ‘too hard basket’. I guess that’s the difference here, I’m quite happy to justify my position when asked. But then again, the fact you felt the need to misquote him in the first place, and can’t answer basic questions when challenged, tells us everything we need to know about the validity of the proposition in the first place (ie it was ill-informed rubbish). Feel free to keep the sarcastic little one liners coming though, you’re pretty good at those
Green on track, Starc doubtful means Kuhnemann close to joining list of Aussie spin bolters who sink or swim
You’re not very good at this whole trolling thing are you? Here’s a tip, try and be a bit more creative with your insults, just calling people names is a bit basic really. I’d give this effort 3/10. Feel free to have another go though, I’m more than happy to provide further feedback.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
Nothing unexpected there. It’s going to turn, deal with it.
Pitch dramas reignite with photos banned at Delhi as more readymade rough served up for India’s spinners
Yep it certainly was a big call from Waugh, probably best described as ‘hard-nosed’. And that’s exactly why Cummins (and the other selectors) won’t do it. As we’ve seen from the reaction to an ex-captain daring to suggest that the Australians might go about things a bit differently, that’s not the way things work anymore. The players know what they’re doing and don’t need a bunch of dinosaurs telling them what to do. The fact it worked in the past is apparently irrelevant because ‘times have changed’.
Captain Cummins reaches his 'Sliding Doors' moment with Warner, just like Waugh did with Warnie
Whatever you may think of the whole shoe on the other foot situation (can’t blame the Indians for giving it as good as they got), at the end of the day there’s nothing positive about one sided games of any sport. Personally I found this summer incredibly boring and depressing. There’s nothing to celebrate about flogging the pants off second rate opposition.
Why decent-minded Aussies should enjoy seeing India dish out a thrashing
Nah mate, it was absolutely dripping with sarcasm.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
No Barb, it’s the author who has used selective omission to misquote Border and present a version of what he said which was not accurate and to suit a particular narrative. It’s basic common sense and fairness that if you are going to be critical of what someone says you need to quote them accurately. That has clearly not happened here, which is very poor form.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
Hold on, according to that quote Border specifically said that the Australians shouldn’t go to far however I don’t remember seeing that in the original article or any of Barbs comments. I’m confused, it’s almost as if it was left out on purpose because it didn’t suit the narrative of Border being some nasty old relic demanding that the Australian team go out there and abuse the bejesus out of their opponents?
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
Really don’t understand the logic of risking injured players, particularly bowlers with dodgy fingers. Blind Freddy can see that this series is done, and with the Ashes coming up the last thing we need is for Green to re-break his finger and turn it into a long term injury.
Green on track, Starc doubtful means Kuhnemann close to joining list of Aussie spin bolters who sink or swim
Not as strange as holding Warnie up as an example of good sportsmanship, that’s just hilarious! He was one of the standouts in the golden era of abusive Australian cricket teams.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
But if it did then I’d assume you’d be all for it, being good sportsmanship and all?
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
It wasn’t a joke mate.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
And prior to this test I’m sure that no one would have predicted Smith giving the thumbs up but here we are. And besides, what’s wrong with that Barb, surely it’s just good sportsmanship? I thought you’d be all for that kind of thing? It’s not life and death after all is it?
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
Read the thread, it was a reply to that. No arguments here, Warnie was one of the worst offenders.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
I was referring to the comment. Fair enough to disagree but to suggest that what Border said doesn’t deserve respect is poor form.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
Well he’s wasting his time talking to you then.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
Yep that’s the other part of it, so condescending towards the bowler. How do you think Warnie would have reacted if they were absolutely flogging a team, he beat a batsman all ends up and the batsman gave him the thumbs up?
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
No one is saying you can’t acknowledge a good ball and if you watch that test you’ll see it happened quite a bit, as it does in every game of cricket. But it’s done with a nod of the head, maybe saying ‘well bowled mate’ as he follows through, and I think you’ll find that AB did that as much as anyone during his playing days. However, you need to draw the line somewhere, and that’s Borders point. What’s next, Smith gets clean ripped by a beautiful in swinger and then high fives the bowler on his way through? Sure Warnie acknowledged a batsman when they scored a century, as he should have, but did he give them the thumbs up when they smacked him for 6?
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
So did you not hear him say ‘you don’t go mad’ or did you just chose to flat out ignore it because it didn’t fit your narrative? Or do you honestly not understand what it means in the context of the overall comment? Would you like me to explain it to you, I think I’ve got some crayons around here somewhere. As far as whether his comments deserve respect or not, who the hell are you to pass judgement on that? That guys has forgotten more about cricket than you will ever know. How about instead of wallowing in your own self righteousness you do us all a favour and provide all of the relevant information next time so we can make our own mind up, cheers. Then maybe your article would deserve more ‘respect’.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
What amazes me the most about this whole discussion is that people don’t seem to be able to delineate between not giving the thumbs and the mindless abuse that we saw in the bad old days prior to the cultural review. It’s as if one is basically the same as the other and if you agree with AB that its maybe not a good idea to give the thumbs up then you are automatically condoning the terrible behaviour at the other end of the spectrum. The other thing that I’ll note is that those having a go at Border seem to conveniently overlook the fact that as part of his comments he said ‘you don’t have to go mad…’ It doesn’t a genius to work out that he is specifically saying not to take things to far. He’s not criticising Manus for having a chat with the opposition while he’s batting, as he loves to do. He’s not saying don’t congratulate the Indian batsmen after they’ve made a hundred. All he is saying is that if you are being beaten by bowler, maybe concentrate at bit more on playing the next ball rather than congratulating the bowler on his last one. Oh well, people hear what they want to hear I suppose. Bring on Friday.
'Hardening up' is a relic of the past, and while a 'fake tough guy act' worked for AB the cricket world has moved on
I’m all for being positive but ‘the batters have been fantastic’? Well that’s clearly not the case. Anyway, what will be will be, and if Englands efforts with bat and ball today against the Kiwis are anything to go by then it’s not going to get any easier come the Ashes.
Cummins facing first true test of his leadership as Aussies ponder line-up changes for second Test