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Thanks also for your sound financial numbers.

There is no way it would cost $15 million to make the NRLW happen but no where in my article did I suggest that it should go ahead in the current climate.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

Yeah nah, because to make change in the world it requires input from men and women.

Just like male voices are extremely important when it comes to issues of gender inequality, domestic violence and countless other issues.

And I’m really sorry if men feel uncomfortable. Perhaps it’s time to lean into that discomfort.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

It’s funny you raise that….

I’ve found this whole issue interesting through the year. In my view the CEO of an org should be front and centre, with the board taking a back seat.

It seems to be happening in the opposite way with this administration.

Yet in this circumstance, it seems to be Andrew Abdo taking the lead. Where is PVL?

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

I completely agree on your final point. In my view it was obvious that the competition was going to be postponed and that regardless of whether that exemption was sought or not wasn’t going to change that.

I think the point I am trying to make (perhaps poorly 😂 ) is that a lot of the emotional/disappointed/upset views we are hearing from players right now I think could have been avoided if more appropriate communication was in place.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

I think we disagree on the slow and steady approach, Big Daddy. I really liked that we started small and focused on sustainability and quality of the competition. Even the introduction of two new teams – I probably would have done it next year and instead increased the number of rounds this year.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

Dave, thanks! I am glad I could pleasantly surprise you.

I absolutely see where you are coming from. The transition is hard.

What I would say in relation to your last point is that it is the RLPA and I hope they have a loud and powerful voice going forward so that they can represent these players.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

Paul, I hear your second point.

But it is hard to reconcile for the players that the NRLW is not taking place, when they see NRLM players being flown up to QLD. There were even rumours that the cars of the players were being driven up as late as 2 weeks ago.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

Big Daddy, I think this points to some of the challenges in women’s sport now.

As I said, even if the NRL had the money to relocate all the players, how do you ask players to relocate on the wages they are currently being paid? It seems like way too big of an ask to me.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

Thanks, Nat.

I don’s know the ins and outs of the broadcast agreement but it is a good point.

I think there’s a difference between asking for what is appropriate and asking for what the men are getting. I don’t think the NRLW players want what the NRL players are getting – I think they just want a fair go!

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

Thanks for the comment!

I think my challenge is that a player survey was done asking the players for their view. There is no point in doing this if the feedback isn’t taken into consideration and then the feedback loop closed.

It’s not necessarily about making the decision the players want, but communicating to them why the decision has been made and I think also demonstrating to them that there will be some deeper thinking about some of the challenges in the women’s game.

We have just seen the can kicked down the road now…

I’ll give an example that happened overnight. Andrew Abdo said that all options had been considered and there was no way for the NRLW to go ahead. Today the QLD Gvt has come out and said no exemption was sought. The players are cranky. There has been miscommunication here and I think speaking with the players might have helped calm some of the big feelings we are seeing at the moment.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

Good grief.

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

You raise some interesting points, yeah nah.

I don’t care about the gender of journalists either. My point is more around, it generally being women that cover the NRLW. Perhaps this speaks to who is actually interested in it? Perhaps the male journalists aren’t as interested in it? I would like to see this change over time and I would like to live in a world where men and women just cover sport, no wonder who is playing.

This concept of a big slice of the pie is interesting and I wonder where in my article I’ve mentioned that. I don’t think the women are expecting a big slice of the pie. Many were expecting to be starting pre-season this week and have had obligations around training/player appearances etc prior to pre-season starting. They have done the work – should there be no compensation at all? No matter how minimal?

Postponing the NRLW was the right thing to do, but where was the players' voice?

KenW, I find the disrespect for science absolutely incredible.

NRL presents united front on jabs, but behind the scenes it's going to get prickly

I see. So the NRL is the only sport/profession where domestic violence is a problem?

'Cancelling the competition is not an option': Crunch time for the NRLW

Yet caring enough to read the article and comment!

'Cancelling the competition is not an option': Crunch time for the NRLW

Completely disagree. particularly with it being an after thought. I’m curious as to what makes you say that is all the competition is?

'Cancelling the competition is not an option': Crunch time for the NRLW

By cancelling you give no opportunity for it to generate income of its own. You give no visibility of the competition to broadcasters and don’t allow fans to buy tickets and merchandise. The men’s game didn’t become a million dollar machine overnight.

'Cancelling the competition is not an option': Crunch time for the NRLW

It’s a good question, Roberto. My big question is if you play in Nov/Dec is it too hot?

'Cancelling the competition is not an option': Crunch time for the NRLW

I am definitely of the view that it should be standalone, just like you! I think you have really articulated the challenges too. It’s such a shame that so many in sport have been impacted by the pandemic, including those players in our second and third tier competitions. Just a damn shame for all really.

'Cancelling the competition is not an option': Crunch time for the NRLW

David, it’s a great point. I would love to hear your thoughts because I only started supporting Parra in 1998 so was only there for the end.

But I think Smith highlights the hard position the Eels are in. The team needed to take the next step. Did they have a coach that could take them there? Smith’s results suggest no.

But then we punted him and in came the carousel of coaches who led Parramatta to bottom 8 finishes for essentially the next decade.

It’s a hard place the club is in, because we need to take the next step, but there is not point punting Arthur is there is no one available who can help the club get there.

Premiership win or not, Eels fans owe Brad Arthur a debt of gratitude

Tell us more, Mark!

Premiership win or not, Eels fans owe Brad Arthur a debt of gratitude

Tom, I’m curious, would you take Paul Green? Because my view is absolutely no way.

Premiership win or not, Eels fans owe Brad Arthur a debt of gratitude

Walter, agree. We are a good team, but we aren’t a great time.

Premiership win or not, Eels fans owe Brad Arthur a debt of gratitude

Agreed!

Premiership win or not, Eels fans owe Brad Arthur a debt of gratitude

I think that criticism could be made of a lot of coaches in the NRL right now… it’s even more stark when you consider that in the last four years (and I think it may be the case for this year too), only 2 coaches have managed to win Premierships. It’s not easy.

Premiership win or not, Eels fans owe Brad Arthur a debt of gratitude

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