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Life Long Brisbane Rugby League supporter, first Redcliffe and now Broncos. also a mad cricket follower and casual everything else follower.

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Very true, I was thinking more of his Sydney adventures, with Parra, Wests, Illawarra, not sure who else.

Illawarra Steelers' greatest ever team

I’m trying to think of anyone else with that running game from the back. Maybe Dale Shearer at club level? People forget how quick a young Lockyer was and how good he was at getting to the outside and swerving through a gap.

But I think I have to hand it to you. Mullins. Best pure running fullback.

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Warne’s consistency maybe worked against him, in that he was int he top four or so in each category. If you go. Back to my article assessing the spinners, Warne’s raw stats and comparison to peers was behind each of O’Reilly, Grimmett and Trumble. Benaud has great draws stats but not as good elsewhere. At the time my theory is that because Warne had such great control, he was often used as a stock bowler on unresponsive pitches, even when he wasn’t as much of a threat. This actually makes his figures worse.

Analysing Australia’s Test cricket winners: The best bowlers and overall teams

I agree. If you raise the cut off in wins to, say 20, you replace Voges, Barnes and Ponsford in the win team, with Steve Waugh, Bob Simpson and Victor Trumper. In gut feel that possibly strengthens the team. But I wasn’t trying for best of all time, but just to highlight who produced the output in each game situation.

Analysing Australia’s Test cricket winners: The best bowlers and overall teams

If they are desperate I’m happy to give them Hunt

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Is Billy Smith still kicking around?

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Wally did some fabulous things for Valleys when they weren’t that great, the 1980’s Origin teams were always considered inferior on paper, it’s only hindsight that calls them superstar teams. Of course QLD are always worse on paper …

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Ponga vs AJ Brimson?

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Wow, big call. Better than Slater and Tedesco’s running games?

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

But not many dips for QLD thank goodness.

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

To be fair, Cronk did okay at the Roosters as well, so he could play outside the Melbourne system.

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Yes I see your wingers and raise you the career of Gavin Cooper.

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Good point. Luckily it’s not me having to choose. But if I did …

From the past: Irvine, Coote and Lazarus
From the Streak: Smith, Lockyer … Slater?

Ironically the fact that Cronk and JT are so close to on par almost excludes them. Who was on par with Smith? Slater? Lockyer?

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

True, I love Lockyer, but he got better compared to Johns after Joey retired. Similarly many, including me, looked at peak JT and out him above Johns, and now Cronk is above JT? I assume Munster will be above Lockyer and Lewis in a year or two.

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

We are good losers but poor winners , “St George can’t play”

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

That’s a coincidence, I was watching it on a decidely average live stream in a hotel room in Boston.

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Beautiful comment. The personality and intangible is a factor. Similarly Lockyer is obviously an all time great, likely an immortal, but if you put him up onstage and then you bring up Alfie Langer …

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

Regarding who you’d pick first, to be honest it a.l depends on who you pick beside them. If Lockyer is at 6, then he controls the game and you pick JT tho bust the game open. If Munster is at 6 you’d pick Cronk to control the game letting Munster play eyes up.

Sorry universe, but Cooper Cronk is superior to Johnathan Thurston

He was the Dane Gagai of the 1980’s. Was pretty quiet at club level then would explode for QLD.

Illawarra Steelers' greatest ever team

I think changes would have been made by any selectors if the team had returned from a 4 nil shellacking in South Africa and were losing a home Ashes to the Old Enemy.

The 1970-71 Ashes: 50 years on

This was a marriage where the Maroon and White Groom was in it to collect the dowry and then jump ship as soon as practicable.

The forgotten players: Northern Eagles

Yes Voges and Barnes have just 10 wins each (and Ponsford 16), but once I set the 10 match cut off I stuck with it.
In the middle order the next in line is Steve Waugh, with Doug Walters after him.
For openers there is not as many standouts to choose from. Definitely Bob Simpson if you are just replacing Barnes. The contenders for Ponsford’s spot are Matt Hayden and David Warner on raw average, But then you have Trumper, whose raw stats are behind those other two, but whose Peer Difference was significantly greater – more than enough to take that second spot.

Analysing Australia’s Test cricket winners: The best bowlers and overall teams

That’s T20 Don. This is the ODI series. Our efforts over the past few years to use T20 specialist in the 50 over game have generally not been successful. I agree Stoinis right now is among our best T20 players.

Five key questions ahead of Australia’s ODI and T20 series against India

Thanks DP. Hope all is well with you.

Analysing Australia’s Test cricket winners: The modern pace bowling masters

I just thought the comment that NSW won Game 1 with Cronk in the team was odd, given my memory was he went down very early.

How the worst Queensland side ever won the 2020 State of Origin series