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Life Long Brisbane Rugby League supporter, first Redcliffe and now Broncos. also a mad cricket follower and casual everything else follower.

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Poor Joe Burns

In the last three years Matthew Renshaw, Cameron Bancroft, Aaron Finch and now Marcus Harris have all made their debuts at the top of the order for Australia, all in an era when our top six has been in relative flux and batting collapses have become more common.

Nice summary Neel. Pollock is underrated because he did not have the sheer pace or startling movement of a Dale Steyn or Wasim Akram. He won his wickets with relentless accuracy and subtle changes, hence why his economy rate is amazing in both tests and ODI’s but his strike rate is a touch high compared to the all time great bowlers.

But his batting adds another dimension. Again, he is underrated because South Africa had one Jacques Kallis during the same period and Pollock really played as a bowler who could bat rather than a genuine all rounder (say more Richard Hadlee than Gary Sobers).

I would Pollock in the very, very good category in tests and in the all time great category in ODI’s.

Shaun Pollock: A statistically perfect bowling all-rounder and an all-time great

Good article. The only question you haven’t addressed is Steven Smith. Will he slot in as well?

Australian cricket’s prodigal son returns at Eden Gardens

Why is Martin at five eighth not part of this conversation? Could you see Morgan and Clifford in the halves, with one of Kahu or Martin at the back?

Seven talking points from NRL Round 2

During the 80’s Souths included a selection of Gary Belcher, Mitch Brennan, Mal Meninga, Bruce Astill, Peter Jackson, Chris Phelan, Bob Lindner and Brad Tessman – a fair list.

And then there was Redcliffe – their 1980’s squads included Chris Close, Mitch Brennan, Artie Beetson, Mark Murray, Brian Neibling, Wally Fullerton Smith, Greg Conescu, Paul Khan, John Ribot, Brad Tessman, Tony Currie, Dave Brown.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

He was a classic, no fitness just running around in reserve grade for fun and then put a Kiwi jersey on him and he turned into a beast.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Foran actually wasn’t far away from a bench spot. I went with Olsen Filipaina for nostalgia as much as anything else

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Well I was thinking about Butch Fatnowa (sic)

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Given those forwards they are certainly the F’en Team

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

I’d agree with that. Why move Morgan from half (as someone suggested) after one game behind a beaten pack?

Seven talking points from NRL Round 2

The man with the flowing locks was good. Fair call, should have got an honorable mention.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

I don’t think the Cowboys need to panic just yet. Based on the pack Brisbane put out on the weekend, there are going to be a lot of teams getting found out at Suncorp.

Also the heat in Brisbane was pretty bad and the Cowboys lost two interchanges early on. So they never got the chance to grind their way back in.

Seven talking points from NRL Round 2

That’s frankly tragic for them.

Seven talking points from NRL Round 2

I judge players in comparison with their peers at the time. It’s the only way. If a player was top three in the game in 1937 chances are they would have been around the same in the modern era. In an extreme that’s the only way to judge in a position like Hooker where the skills are almost unrecognizable over different eras.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Read the bios of the two wingers – Hall of Fame, QLD team of the Century and lots and lots of tries. I loved Chicka but his overall career was not quite in the same class. If Folau had played his entire career in League maybe he would have built a sufficient body of work.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

I added a couple of special mentions at the bottom just for you Rob.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

So you are saying that after the B and C teams, the others would F.A.D.E?

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Check out the tryscoring records for Flannery and Frawley. Fahey May have run over them, but in defence he wouldn’t even have seen them as they stepped past him.

Flannery was relatively big for a winger, and 15 tests says he could play a bit more than most. And being picked for 15 test from QLD is like playing 40 tests from NSW. You have to do a heck of a lot to get noticed pre Origin.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Interesting that when fit, Tim Pickup was regularly picked for Australia at five eighth, with Fulton in the centres.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Boys have the selectors got it tough at the moment.

Warner's stunning return a World Cup boost for Australia

Happy to switch. They both were good no matter where they were

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

100% agree. It looks easy until you are faced with a line ball LBW. Did it hit in line, it’s not like we have the graphic in the TV, the batsman has a swipe, there is dust, did he hit it? Was it going on to hit? You are concentrating on the line because that’s what you have to deal with first, I.e. not landing outside leg, hitting in line, but then you have to assess the vertical as well as the horizontal. Then you think, oh no was it a no ball? Meanwhile the fielders and crowd are screaming at you, the batsmen has deliberately moved outside the line to make it harder, and there was a fly buzzing around and sweat in your eyes, the ball was traveling at 140km and it’s then you realise that THE BATSMAN IS YOUR SON!
I love umpiring junior cricket.
Last week my son had to dive to make his ground right in front of me. Not out, but while he was lying face down in the dirt wondering if all hits bits are still intact, the umpire (otherwise known as Dad) calmly took out his phone and took a photo.

It’s time to change the leg-side no-LBW rule

Interesting Chris, and hard to argue with that. It would need to be trialed for some time at domestic level, to pick up on any unintended consequences such as these.

It’s time to change the leg-side no-LBW rule

I read excerpts from “Bumper” in putting this together and although not strictly relevant to his football career I would say it’s a compelling read about life as a copper in Kings Cross.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Basically I had to put Fittler and Fulton somewhere and they could easily swap. My thinking we pretty much to have the Immortal and captain running the show. Although I think Fittler became a great game manager in his later years, for me he was at his best running into holes and putting on that lethal step.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F

Thanks Don. Yes there is a lot of Fahey love this morning, I concede an honorable mention may have been in order. Florimo and Fenech both had limited representative careers, although they were great clubmen.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter F