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Life Long Brisbane Rugby League supporter, first Redcliffe and now Broncos. also a mad cricket follower and casual everything else follower.

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Poor Joe Burns

In the last three years Matthew Renshaw, Cameron Bancroft, Aaron Finch and now Marcus Harris have all made their debuts at the top of the order for Australia, all in an era when our top six has been in relative flux and batting collapses have become more common.

Big call Stevo. Before my time so I’ll have to take your word for it.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Probably should have given him an honorable mention, although I tend to save it for rep players who miss out

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

By the way my lists so far to allow easy comparison is stuck in editing at the moment but I expect it will be released soon

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Fair call

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

I’d also say that no one ever measured a guy like Larry Corowa over 100 metres.

I think there are a couple of reasons for our sprinting stocks dropping away.
1. In the amateur world you could be a sprinter and play some football. These days you pretty much decide at 14 and specialise.
2. There is so much more money to be made in the football codes, our best natural athletes don’t necessarily do athletics. You’d have to be one hell of a sprinter to get rich in Australia. And there would only be one at a time.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Actually 2 now…

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

I loved the way Jason Smith played. The whole game slowed around him.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Yep that’s true. Can’t say I had any posters of the Ives brothers on my wall.

Funnily enough most of the others are of fairly recent vintage. Made it easier.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Which centre do you drop? Idris to provide bench impact?
Inskip had some good years at Wynnum, but GI will have more influence from fullback maybe and you want your best player heavily involved.
As for the halves, Ikin played a bit of 7 but really they are both five eighths so I’d be happy either way. I made Izzard 6 simply because he was the better runner of the ball (and better player I believe), so I just did his write up first!

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Simply put wingers now are not built for out and out speed. They need bulk to bend the line from kick returns and to hold their line when going for the corner. There are still some speedsters of course but not to that level.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

The Iro’s were personality players too, as was Izzard for that matter. In fact this side has a lot of charisma. GI, Idris, Inu on the bench, and of course the fastest of them all.
There is nearly 400 club career tries in their first two names.
I doubt David Lord will be reading my articles anytime soon. Which is actually a shame because the old codger probably would have a few stories to add

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

So why do you think you will get a bigger crowd by starting the lowest price at $30?

Start saying goodbye to watching NRL at suburban grounds

But the lowest prices now are what? Real question, pretty sure the ticketing prices are different here in Brisbane.

Start saying goodbye to watching NRL at suburban grounds

Very true

Start saying goodbye to watching NRL at suburban grounds

They might have the most ‘nearly immortals’ on their list.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

They are a team of 1

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Craig Innes may not get the accolades because he only played here a short while but he was an extremely good centre for Manly.
Idris could have been anything, Izzard had heaps of talent, Isaako is young yet but looks the goods. There is some quality there.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Inu was a character and is still going around in the UK somewhere. Did he drive Des mad? Or was Des already well on the way? Chicken Egg?

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

What you do is make the games an event. The AFL seems to get pretty good crowds despite having moved from suburban stadium quite a while ago.

Start saying goodbye to watching NRL at suburban grounds

Tiered ticketing is what makes them money. If you had one price fits all, that price would be higher.

Start saying goodbye to watching NRL at suburban grounds

I 100% agree with this. Well done.
The only other things I would add are:
9. Once the game starts put any of the off field garbage surrounding the game (mostly self inflicted mind you) away and just enjoy the game. There is no joy in grinding your teeth everytime Lodge, Packer, Fifita, etc takes a hit up. Just enjoy the 80 minutes.
10. Have a sense of humour. honestly, watching the Broncos trying to organise themselves for a field goal in the last 10 minutes against the Tigers was on one level killing me, but on another it was actually pretty damn funny in a black comedy sort of way.

Eight simple rules for enjoying the NRL more

Nice idea. When you get to the O Team however you will note that while not super strong, they don’t play well with others.

As for the I’s the list started very well indeed with two “nearly immortals” and the backfive as a whole are pretty good, but the forwards were a struggle.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

And there is no greater honor than that. I submitted the article the night before GI retired. He will be missed.

Rugby league history: The all-time great alphabet teams – Letter I

Reminds me of how Starc’s first 10 or so tests were all singles. Never played 2 in s row

Joe Burns on the outer for Ashes

GI should definitely be in the Hall of Fame, as should Lockyer, Thurston, Slater and Smith. Immortal is a tough, tough call. There is no doubt we are subject to recency bias, to those we have seen.
Messenger was the best ever seen, Brown was the best ever seen, Vic Hey was the best ever seen, then it was Churchill. then Gasnier, then Raper, then Fulton, then Lewis. The people of the era always thought the best current player was the best ever seen.
Look at how many comments it took above until the last ‘best ever’, Billy Slater was mentioned and he’s only been retired a year!
It’s only now with Meninga and Provan that we are making Immortals out of very great players who are not in that conversation about best of all time.
GI matches Meninga in all but leadership. Meninga went on four Kangaroo Tours and captained two I think.
But if GI is an immortal then so are the other Big 4 of the era. And maybe that’s ok.

Should Greg Inglis be made an Immortal?