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Was brought up in Victoria, where I barracked for the Bombers in winter and the Aussie cricketers in summer. Life took me to Sydney many years ago, where I've gained an appreciation of many other sports; including tennis, rugby league and soccer/football. But AFL remains my first love; and I'm now proudly a member and supporter of the Greater Western Sydney Giants. In between working a boring desk job and attending sporting events, I trawl the internet for sporting stories and discussions.

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Likewise. I got Thursday night’s result, then didn’t get another till Sunday. 4/9 for me.

Eight talking points from AFL Round 1

It’ll inevitably happen at some stage. But at the moment the AFL are happy to keep it as an ace up their sleeve for the next broadcast rights deal. If the broadcasters want it, they can pay for it.

The solution that could solve the twilight saga

The term you’re probably looking for is “semi-professional”. The players do get paid something, but it’s peanuts; and so they can only train in the evening after the players have done their full-time jobs.
They have access to AFL-standard training & rehab facilities and AFL coaching & training staff; but because they’re working elsewhere, they can generally only access them after hours. With that access, now into its third season, the standard of play has improved; but there would be the potential to improve much more. And with not much money and so few games, it’s not easy to entice potential players to relocate interstate to play.

Why an all-expansion AFLW grand final could hurt new teams

Haven’t seen the numbers for last Sunday. GIANTS AFLW played at 2pm, Wanderers played at 7pm. Neither made the top 20 (both sub-30k nationally); and Mediaweek haven’t tweeted the ratings for either event and I haven’t seen either event’s ratings anywhere else. The womens one-day international cricket dominated Fox’s ratings last Sunday.

The Saturday before – source https://twitter.com/Tenash921/status/1096985061134610433
#AFLWGiantsBlues : 30k * (4:30pm-6:30pm)
#ADLvWSW : 29k * (I think it was 5:30pm-7:45pm)
Those numbers are Fox national ratings. The AFLW was also on 7Mate in Sydney only, I don’t have any numbers for that. The A-League game was not on FTA.
OzTam don’t give city-by-city breakdowns for pay-tv programming. The A-League may have outrated the AFLW in Sydney, but we’ll never know. Fox has the same programming everywhere, so advertisers are only interested in the national total.

GWS: The next expansion club crisis?

The GIANTS only won 3 games in their first 2 years. But they went from being very bad to very good very quickly; which put some peoples’ noses out of joint.

Obviously in a competition where teams are formed through a draft, when new teams are started from scratch, there need to be concessions. Without them, a new club wouldn’t be able to field a team. And the GIANTS were smarter with how they used their concessions than expected.

GWS: The next expansion club crisis?

I’m not going to comment on soccer, as I haven’t been to an A-League game for 6 years and I’m not sufficiently informed on the business metrics.
But when it comes to AFL in the Greater Western Sydney region, it’s a major population centre where AFL traditionally has a very small following. But while the AFL is cashed up with TV dollars; it’s an opportunity for them to invest a small portion of that money to establish a presence in the area.
The GIANTS rate well on Fox, and the corporate support is there. The GIANTS are paying their way in the AFL; and it’s having a positive effect on participation numbers in the area, which have grown considerably albeit off a very small base. The concerns of the writer of the article aren’t shared by the AFL.

The GIANTS will be fine. And what soccer does is no concern of mine.

GWS: The next expansion club crisis?

We’ll all be rooned said Hanrahan…..

Seems the GIANTS will always be simultaneously a Frankenstein’s monster ready for a generation of dominance and an uncompetitive disaster in the making. A team that loses players in a mass exodus every season, but is being unfairly gifted concessions when they trade them for high draft picks.
The GIANTS are now on the same rules as everyone else. They’ll win games, they’ll lose games. They’ll have good seasons, they’ll have bad seasons. Hopefully more good than bad, but time will tell.
Membership has grown to over 25,000. Obviously we’d like bigger crowds, but it is what it is; and the club and the AFL will keep working to increase the spread of the game.
I’ve spoken to corporates and sporting business people, and they will all tell you it was an absolute no-brainer to go into Greater Western Sydney. The members and supporters the GIANTS have picked up hasn’t been at the expense of the Swans, who have increased theirs steadily; but the majority are new people to the game in the part of Australia where traditionally the game has had the least penetration. And any support the AFL gives to the GIANTS is a tiny percentage of the media rights income which has more than tripled in the time the GIANTS have been around.
We’ll be fine.

GWS: The next expansion club crisis?

The idea of developing a shortened rectangular form of the game has merit. And I don’t mind the idea of having a bit of hit-and-giggle to start the pre-season, similar to rugby 7s.
But AFLX has lost the plot. Too many stupid gimmicks, it’s a ridiculous joke.
And with every sporting event, the fans want someone to win. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But who cares who wins this? Is anyone going to support any team in this?

The unwanted return of AFLX

The players holding down day jobs, playing at suburban grounds. The women are bringing back the traditions that the mens game has lost……
There’s a lot to like about AFLW. Like Mister Football said in his comment above – traditional grounds, it’s free, great atmosphere that’s good for the families to attend. I’m off to Drummoyne tonight – was there a couple of weeks ago for the WBBL final, and hopefully there’ll be another good crowd to follow womens sport tonight. Then we’ve got a couple of games coming up at Blacktown, which is the closest the Giants have to a traditional suburban ground.

One slightly pedantic point, although it shouldn’t take away from a great article – I’m sure Collingwood were playing for premiership points at Victoria Park later than 1990. Only a few games a year, but I’m sure it was still happening until the late 1990s.

The return to Victoria Park: An AFLW fan's perspective

The idea of creating a rectangular version of the game for where there are no ovals has merit. And there’s nothing wrong with a bit of hit-and-giggle similar to rugby 7s.
But with every stupid gimmick that’s introduced to AFLX, it moves away from that worthy objective and moves into the realm of a farcical joke.

AFLX is a misguided waste of resources

There is a big difference between not liking AFLW, not watching it and not mentioning it online, concentrating your online energies into things you prefer (nothing wrong); and hating AFLW and constantly making negative comments online (plenty wrong, and makes you look like an insecure [expletive deleted])

More respect is needed for AFLW

Kids won’t come if they don’t get a bat and a bowl every week. Why should they?
The ones that will drop off are never going to play Sheffield Shield or Test cricket, but does that mean they should be let go?
It can be a juggling act. A mate who coaches an under 12s team told me that there are two players on the team who are clearly more talented than the rest of them. Given their own way, they would monopolise the batting and the bowling, and probably win more games. But within a month they wouldn’t have the numbers to field a team.

Junior cricket must change for future Test success

Presumably the 10am start is so it can be on telly before the day-night Test.

Brisbane turn up the Heat as Sydney pursue third consecutive WBBL title

I definitely prefer the WBBL to be played as stand-alone games rather than curtain raisers. The crowd who are there are there specifically for that game, rather than a sparse smattering of early arrivers who then have to sit around twiddling their thumbs for 2-3 hours between games.
I’m going on Saturday. I would have preferred North Sydney Oval, but Drummoyne is a good backdrop for a crowd of 3,000 to 4,000; a crowd which would be virtually invisible at the SCG.

Will certainly be better than last year’s WBBL final, where the Sixers played the Scorchers at Adelaide Oval, finishing 3 hours before the men’s BBL final and there were maybe a few hundred disinterested neutral fans lightly distributed around the nosebleed seats.

Brisbane turn up the Heat as Sydney pursue third consecutive WBBL title

A game on Christmas Day would rate well on telly, but absolutely no-one would go.
The question is which club will take the hit at the gate and lumber their members with the cost of a game they won’t attend.

Double-header a glimpse of BBL Christmas future

Even gimmick games need meaning and a team to support.
For a club competition like we had this year, at least you were following your club. But who’s going to care whether Team Blue beats Team Green?

AFL releases new AFLX logos to thunderous lack of applause

Unfortunately neither Newcastle nor Wollongong have oval grounds with sufficient capacity or facilities. Newcastle No 1 Sports Ground would barely hold 5,000; and I doubt you’d get more than 2,000 into North Dalton Oval. Neither have corporate facilities or spectator seating that would be acceptable at AFL level.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

I couldn’t see Canberra having its own team for a very long time. The corporate backing isn’t there; and the facilities at Manuka are poor and the ground’s capacity is only around 14,000.
But it’s a useful secondary market for the Giants. It’s worth $1m per season plus 4,000 members to them. The current deal with Canberra expires at the end of the 2021 season, but all stakeholders are keen to renew it well before then.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

Enjoyable article Matt. Should get plenty of thoughts and comments going.
The bucket list – the things you need to experience at least once before you die.

I’ve been to most of the big sporting events in Australia and visited most of the major grounds. The new stadium in Perth is one that I’m keen to get over to the Wild West and check out at some stage. Won’t be in 2019 unless the Giants play a final there – our only game there during the regular season is round 2, and I’ve entered RunWest the next day and couldn’t do that on the back of a flight on the Red Eye!
I’ve been to footy at the Adelaide Oval before, but not a Showdown. I’ve been to Origin before but not in Perth (obviously, no-one has yet). I’ve been to AFL & NRL Grand Finals, and international cricket at several Australian grounds – and may possibly add a Manuka Test to that list before this summer is out.
But there’s some overseas items on my bucket list. An Ashes Test at Lords is definately on mine as well. I’d love to get to Wimbledon. Wouldn’t mind a visit to Anfield either – I’ve seen Liverpool play, I crossed that one off my bucket list in Brisbane 3 years ago; but to see an EPL game live would be an experience.

My 2019 sporting bucket list

The Roar is dedicated to many sports. This article was on the AFL tab; but all sports get a run here.

My 2019 sporting bucket list

The logical extension to that is that during trade period, players would be trades for points rather than picks.
That would certainly create a fairer system for free agency compensation, which would be a sliding scale of points depending on the new contract.

So long as we're shaking up the AFL draft, why not make it an auction?

24,342. A palindrome, and better than expected.
But what a dire performance by the Aussies.

Australian cricket fans voted with their feet in Perth yesterday

Sydney & the Giants don’t alternate being at home in round 1.
Or the last round, and that will be interesting. The GIANTS have always travelled interstate in the last round. Not such a factor with the pre-finals bye; but will 2019 be the year they finally get a home game in the last round?

AFL reveals first week of 2019 draw

Come back Smith, Warner and Bancroft. All is forgiven.

Australia collapse to waste Finch and Khawaja's good work

Can I suggest one slight amendment.
“But many Swans fans won’t want this trade, as the cost of Moore will obstruct a pay rise for the beloved Aliir Aliir, who’s out of contract.”

Aliir Aliir is contracted to 2021.

The Sydney Swans are the AFL's trade kings