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Luv'd aussie rules for over 50 years. Luv the gradual emergence of a truly national and balanced competition.

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Not a big statement at all; these issues have been discussed widely on every forum I can think of for many years. And, as for the VFL’s once hopelessly lopsided comp, well the facts are there for all to see either in retorspect or in real time, as I did. If you think I’m misguided, say why.

Disappointed about 2016? Of course, but day to day don’t give it a moments thought and haven’t for years. Nowadays watching the Swans re-emerge as a power once again is giving me just as much satisfaction as watching them humiliate most of the rest of the comp for 20 years running.

Do we even want the Gold Coast Suns to succeed?

Structurally, this comp is fundamentally flawed and this phenomenon is the result.

GCS will be around forever I think, because AFL will make it so. However, the AFL need to do much more to curb the imbalance of power affecting their systems and inequities affecting games and finals. Otherwise although GCS will be around, in 20 years it will feel like ground hog day over and over.

The VFL was like this, as were the other state leagues when they were in their heydays, this will be no different the way it is going.

Do we even want the Gold Coast Suns to succeed?

Yes, I do.

Do we even want the Gold Coast Suns to succeed?

Did you actually follow what was offered by Swans for an unproven clumsy foal?

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

Good accurate fair summation

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

Don‘t disagree with either point. Worth a try? Sure, but latest news on this tells the story. Ie, the right result for Swans for sure; probably all parties. 2020 draft will prove this out one way or the other and the players‘ durability and form will be the principal factors.

AFL Trade News: Joe Daniher, Tom Papley, Jack Martin miss out on deadline day

Why?

AFL Trade News: Joe Daniher, Tom Papley, Jack Martin miss out on deadline day

As compared to Horse?

Chris Scott: Success or failure?

Exactly the right thing to do.

Why Essendon should delay losing Joe Daniher

What a dumb comment from Jobe………….as has already been said………..showed a bit yes, but: inconsistent, injury prone, hasn’t played much in two years, clumsy as a new born foal………I could go on. Sydney should back away, let him play a stellar season for the bombers next year to prove his worth, then simply have him step up to his desire to come to them once out of contract.

Joe Daniher 'in the top 5 players in the competition' says Bombers great

Congrats Rochmond. Commiserations GWS.

Five talking points from the 2019 AFL grand final

Making finals consistently and now the 2019 GF is surely an essential ingredient on that journey. By many definitions we see on this site, GF’s are the only measure of success; which is shallow in my view. Anyway, in ten short years they may be one of the most successful clubs around, even if one with a relatively small membership. Sydney? They are now 20+ years deep into AFL success and justification of a premium AFL asset. Recently a couple of Melb clubs had their moments in the sun, but are way short of being identified in that sense. Let’s see what that next ten years brings.

This weekend's grand final justifies the AFL's Giant investment

Your sentiments are honourable, but like all industries, these businesses need to adapt to their market, and maybe they do try. If so, then that’s better than hanging on for success of the sport in Victoria, that’s for the VFL league, not this one. On the topic, GWS is a success so far and continues to show signs of becoming a critical asset to this league.

This weekend's grand final justifies the AFL's Giant investment

Wasted season? Nah, they got to and almost won a prelim. More than my team by some margin. Your comments were mostly positive anyway.

Collingwood's magnificent failure leads to a wasted season

How often in reality does the draft run to allocation? Even where this is true, it is usually at the bottom 40 picks and half the time the players presented in those positions are passed down the line, many to selection oblivion. That is not unreasonable in itself, natural selection and all. My point is that the top 20 or maybe 30 picks each year virtually never follow pick allocation because of the rank trade power imbalances in this competition. The clubs have gamed the system into a virtually free market.

Who had the better season: Geelong or Collingwood?

Humorous…….maybe? Possibly you would like to have head hair also? Anyway, an absolute stand out gun has won this years Brownlow. We move on.

Nat Fyfe wins second Brownlow Medal

Well said. Fools propose otherwise.

Rioli involved in second ASADA bombshell

Cats.

Who had the better season: Geelong or Collingwood?

George, you can split hairs on the backyard talent point, but basically it is irrelavent and has been for >30 years. The draft exists to eliminate advantages some clubs used to have by dominating their backyard either geographically or demographically or both. So, in fact, there are no clubs that can boast greater backyard talent than others. What is reasonable to put on this point is that certain geographies of this country and certain demographies are more productive interns of producing top end talent than others. That is of course a function of history and nothing to do with the way any of the clubs are run. Clubs develop players they get, they don‘t have a special sauce.

Adding Joe Daniher won't solve Sydney's biggest issues, but it may be a turning point

Yeah, reasonable optimism. I‘m sure you realise that this phenomenon is common and results from really committed players giving 110% in the face of defeat. A good sign indeed.

Nat Fyfe wins second Brownlow Medal

Thanks for your assessment of my response, at the same time as agreeing with me. Nice work. Melb and Bris May have made the finals at those times, but they were not the power teams by any stretch. You went over board in your original response about Fyfe, you missed the fact that it‘s almost always the case that the umps give votes to the most obvious players in very strong teams. So, we are back where we started…….this is a best and fairest in the comp award. A Fyfe or Kelly type is just as worthy as a Dangerfield.

2019 AFL Brownlow Medal: Favourites

But that’s not what that medal is awarded for. And of course the counter to your argument is that…………..of course players who win it are usually (almost always) from strong clubs (of the moment)………because their team mates make them look good. So, what’s wrong with a true champ from a weak club winning it….against all odds? Nothing. Were Stynes, Kelly or Voss unworthy in the 90s? No, absolute guns all of them, just as Fyfe is.

2019 AFL Brownlow Medal: Favourites

Very satisfying to see GWS get their opportunity, and will be against the odds to win it. Yes, they got 11 top 20 draft picks in 2011……….obviously a valid start up concession. Following year was 5 of top 20, but tailed away each year after that to 3, 2 or 1 of the top 20. No different to two other groups of clubs really, ie; the bottom 8 who are given preference in the draft and the top Vic clubs who have trade power (gaming the go home factor) over the rest of the comp. Arguments this week from the usual suspects in the Vic fan base about concessions to GWS are just weak as water. Of the 31 “top 20 picks” GWS have had to date, only 14 remain at the club and only about half of them are a lock in each week’s selections (one of whom is part timer Jon Patton, who is apparently on his way anyway). Not a zac different to any other club really.

Brilliant GWS set up a Giant Grand Final

Pity Hodgey wasn‘t playing when T Libba was around then? Worst of all time, big statement I know, but deserving.

Straight-sets exits await Geelong and Brisbane

A genuine person who seemed to love those around him, infectious. Played, coached, commentated, built, developed, criticised and loved this sport. A dedicated top level pro. RIP. Condolences to family and friends.

Remembering Danny Frawley