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What is the AFL's greatest modern dynasty?

It was a draw, but yes…hysterical outrage from some media and fans is normal. The lack of self awareness from kiwis like moaman is gobsmacking. They get too caught up in gloating about beating aussies that they forget aussies see the same attitude from kiwis that they accuse us of in a myriad of other sports.

Mo'unga magic leads All Blacks past woeful Wallabies in record blowout

Even Perth is amazingly freezing cold today. 😱 The kiwis would’ve loved it here today/tonight.

Mo'unga magic leads All Blacks past woeful Wallabies in record blowout

It’s a bizarre kiwi ritual that when the all blacks win (or any NZ victory over Australia in any sport) they need to reference some apparent aussie band wagon support as part of the gloating and celebration process.

Mo'unga magic leads All Blacks past woeful Wallabies in record blowout

You referenced Australians: making a generalisation about us as sports fans. I’m just telling you I’ve observed the EXACT same thing from kiwis when they lose in sport, who can get pretty spiteful too.

Mo'unga magic leads All Blacks past woeful Wallabies in record blowout

No matter how good or bad the wallabies are, 75% of the population won’t care about them, the same way 50% of the population won’t care about the Kangaroos (and look how many they lose). In fact the name “Kangaroos” means something different entirely to 50% of the Australian population, who will probably assume you’re referencing North Melbourne.
You kiwis are very good at rugby union, and got lucky you found a sport you could dominate as it has a very limited international profile. For decades now observing kiwis in person and on the internet, I see them constantly having a meltdown and get quite spiteful when they lose. Except the difference is kiwis will blame the officials, and particularly Australians when NZ sides lose to Australia or aussie sports teams in Australian competitions, implying some kind of conspiracy against them.

Mo'unga magic leads All Blacks past woeful Wallabies in record blowout

They were actually wearing gold in those last matches for the first time in around a decade or longer.

Mo'unga magic leads All Blacks past woeful Wallabies in record blowout

Kiwis aren’t any different.

Mo'unga magic leads All Blacks past woeful Wallabies in record blowout

And with (presumably) large amounts of away fans from games against Melbourne sides it would be an attractive proposition to have a Geelong stadium at around 60,000 capacity. I guess it would be hard to sell that to politicians to justify that spend for what, probably half a dozen games a year though?

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

I think they’re still in the process of upgrading Geelong’s stadium aren’t they? It’s going to be over 40,000 capacity eventually, and hopefully they’ll let Geelong play all their home finals there.

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Absolutely sven. The point I make is they should receive that home advantage come finals time otherwise what is the point of superior ladder position?!! You don’t discount Richmond’s 2017 success due to their unfair advantage in getting to play the superior team Geelong in a final at their home ground do you?

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

And I would love Melbourne suburban grounds to feature still. But who pays for their upgrade?

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Mate seriously read what you write. Moving sides from old suburban grounds in Melbourne (which would need massive investment to bring them up to standard in the 21st century) to play at two central Melbourne stadiums with transport links, one owned by the AFL, the other by the MCC (with huge Victorian government investment too I believe?), makes complete sense. How doesn’t it make sense to do that? but then you argue forcing Geelong to play in Melbourne fulltime makes sense????

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Because presumably it’s easier and cheaper to have all Melbourne teams at two centrally located stadiums that are privately run and maintained, and with good public transport links.
Why is it logical to shut Geelong out of playing in Geelong and forcing them to play in Melbourne fulltime? That makes no logical sense! 😂

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

The competition should have integrity sven. By your logic Geelong should build a stadium larger than the MCG, which isn’t feasible.
And Geelong isn’t part of Melbourne, so not logical to tell them to give up their home ground.

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Good point Jeff, but Steve Smith shouldn’t be make or break for people attending or/and watching BBL, as it’s a cheap gimmicky slogathon. If you’re implying that the big name star aussies should be playing BBL, then the BBL needs to be a realistic comp locked in a small annual window that covers three weeks max. in January after the New Year’s Test concludes.

Steve Smith “no chance” of Big Bash

“lawless”? did you mean flawless?

All Blacks won’t dwell on Down Under flop

Yep, more consistency and showing a fair bit of grit, which is what you need your #5 & #6 batsmen to be as they’ll often come in with the score under 150, sometimes under 100.

The history of India tours to Australia

But if you accept a home ground and stadium are an advantage in the regular season, then why have that stripped off a team come the finals? You wouldn’t accept Richmond being forced to playing Geelong in Geelong as the higher placed side, so why accept it when it’s the other way round?

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Like I said, what’s the point of these advantages if sides like Geelong are forced to face Melbourne clubs in Melbourne (MCG & Docklands) for finals?
I have no issue with the GF being at the MCG as the cultural home of the sport based off it’s history from the VFL. I don’t agree with the others about it being shipped around. But every other final should have a genuine home ground advantage (where applicable) with the obvious GF exception.

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Geelong have been denied home ground advantage on several occasions though. Actually I think Richmond were the beneficiaries of that in one of their recent premiership years weren’t they? The farcical arrangement the AFL had with the MCC regarding finals that they refused to drop and show integrity for the comp has cost West Coast several times, Geelong several times (MCG & also forced to play at Docklands) and Brisbane as well. Thankfully they showed brains and dropped this arrangement for non-Vic sides.

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

“Having greater home ground advantage” pretty cute way of saying some teams have to travel a lot more than others.

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Yes sven agreed. Minor premiership becoming irrelevant (not that it was really relevant anyway) but top 4 is the measuring stick now. Minor premiers NOT in GF 3 years in a row now, and who was the last minor premiers to win the flag, Hawthorn ’13? WAFL, SANFL & AFL all had premiers lose a final this year.

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

That’s specifically GF’s. I’m referencing the season.

Missing from the Richmond dynasty? A legitimate rival

Yep, I believe he’s turned the corner. The issue was he’s getting himself out, NOT the opposition. He consistently makes scores between 30-70 and then gets caught playing a slash outside off. He seems to be more disciplined recently.

The history of India tours to Australia