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Waz
I was not asking you to set policy objectives or question your 1 in 3…
My post was simply stating IMO the obvious, if Footballs management does not state what they want to achieve… they open it up to anyone to state what the status should be…
Me thinks they are to scared to set targets as they may not be reached and we can measure their performance or non performance…
My single biggest issue with Steven Lowy was his inability to lead the conversation and set measurable targets … again IMO out of fear of failing…
We are a code where many people have opinions and we have overseas leagues to compare ourselves against this creates an environment where unless management state goals and objectives openly, it opens up for a lot of negative comments…

VAR has changed football, but we only have ourselves to blame

Mike said

All across social media for the entire weekend, A-League fans made it abundantly clear how much they dislike the VAR.

A big part of the reason we now have VAR is because we couldn’t cop it when a referee made a mistake

Waz said

But about 1 in 3 supporters aren’t happy with it and that’s key

In a broader context, me thinks you have described Australian Football… we complain a lot and often its the same people who complain and even if the complain is seen to, something is always wrong… its never perfect …

For me this illustrates, how a lack of specific goals and objectives is hurting Football…. neither Indy Hal or FFA have set out what the goals are…. effectively allowing anyone to set them and then complain when the goals have not been met..

Arguably the only time we actually did this I.e. early Hal, people seem to jump on board…. when Lowy said we want average crowds of 10K, playing in nice stadiums, with all games broadcast it seem like a pipe dream… but it was a measure and around that measure the conversation centred.

Indy Hal need to state what they want Var to be, take control of the conversation, set the talking points…. equally on most issues we need Indy Hal to set the conversation, otherwise Waz’s one in 3 [which I believe is a reasonable analysis] will simply create a theme of hopelessly out of control and out of date administration and competition… and thats good for no one.

VAR has changed football, but we only have ourselves to blame

Interesting article by Richard Hinds today…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-11/a-league-s-new-rights-deal-vita-for-future-of-league/11591418

Life feels so much better now that the football is back

Mike

So true re we have started…

How we judge the season will be largely how we view expectations…

For those expecting, crowds to be flocking back, digital rating across all platforms to jump 50%, and for police and stadium security to carry in flags and flares for use by active supporters… then it will be a bad year.

For those expecting a holding pattern as we regroup from three years of civil war… crowds average say 11K, with rating up by say 10 percent…. they should be happy…

For those expecting it to fall into a hole and vanish forever … they will not be happy…

If I have an issue and it a large nay huge nay mega massive issue [for me anyway] like with Steven Lowy, is no one is setting targets saying if we reach ??? crowds and ??? ratings… thats OK…

Frank Lowy did it early in Hal, and it was something if we go back in time that made Hal look good as we where meeting our targets…

Mike, I have posted this comment last week but add it again here… I hope we are starting Hal 3…

I think we have had two Hals… Hal 1 pre world cup bid… and hal 2 post world cup bid.

In Hal 1, new media deal, new league, msm the like of which we had never seen before, Socceroos in the WC, move to Asia… mostly positive aside from at the SBS sulking about Fox.

In Hal 2, i.e. post the world cup bid, its been one issue after the other, nothing seems to have gone right aside from WSW … add the beyond poor call for the father to son hand over…

Waz often posts about where our viewing or say audience, in a recent US article about the MLS, I found this interesting…

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/mls-espn-regular-season-tv-ratings-social-impressions
– ESPN’s MLS ratings up 2% for 2019 regular season
– MLS’s social channels up 38%
– social interactions were also up 27 per cent.
– video views across all of its channels in 2019, up a whopping 132 per cent

Life feels so much better now that the football is back

G

The starting date is fine its the ending date… its the length of the season… IMO starting after the AFL & NRL is smart… its just we should finish in late May / early June…

Melbourne derby to provide early glimpse of title credentials

Good article…. will keep an eye open for of them…

Six young Australians ready for an A-League explosion

hehe Mike…. just because someone is in their mid 30’s does not mean they don’t have business acumen…

Waz is correct in what he says about the say under 30 market… we need someone who has grown up in this world and understands it and has lived it …. getting a 50 + person to work out the streams etc is akin to getting the AFL bloke into run Football they know the general but not having lived it they cannot see the obvious.. they live their own experiences..

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

Nim

I think you have nailed it….re FFA & Indy Hal…

FFA needs as you said an old hand capable of working with government, whereas Indy Hal IMO needs a younger switched on CEO, someone who understands and has worked with things like streaming… actually a CEO of a major E-game could IMO be worth considering ..

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

Was

I have no doubt what you post on FTA.

It’s got me thinking our next CEO should be mid 30’s.

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

Waz

I am not arguing that kids watch FTATV..

My argument is twofold… first its not only kids we are after and secondly the generations do talk and social media often steams from what msm is doing.. another aspect is sponsors …

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

Waz

I hear what you say but I don’t think its totally true… BTW I am not arguing with you over we should be on youtube or facebook or whatever streaming service we want…

I just don’t think its as black & white as you think…

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

Mike

My hope is for Hal 3 to start…

I understand Steven Lowy had to go, and the need to change our structures…. I yelled as loud as anyone…

However I am not in the camp that says everything Frank Lowy did was bad…

For me there has been two Hals which are, Pre World Cup Bid & Post World Cup Bid.

Hal 1, Pre World Cup Bid, we where motoring along, with new broadcast deals, starting in Asia, main stream media the like of which Football had never seen, in Frank Lowy Football had a person who had great influence especially at government level [remember SBS paid 7 million per year for what the ABC has for free Frank did well].

Hal 2, post World Cup Bid, aside from WSW nothing has gone right, its been one bad news day after another…ending up in a civil war and SBS almost walking away from local Football..

Weather it’s my heart or brain I am not sure, but I think this could be the start of Hal 3, recovery and expansion … as long as we want it to be…

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

Hopefully Mike the ABC promote the hell out of Football…. it would make a nice change to have a supportive broadcaster … so lets hope we also manage the contract better than we have in the past..

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

Mike

Agree with everything you said.

Its also the time as a community we realise we better start supporting the competition or we may just whinge it away…

ABC viewers must see attacking football when they watch the A-League

It was a good game … shame all the post match talk is about a couple of errors the ref made…

Roosters go back-to-back at 2019 NRL Grand Final

One decent striker and we will worry teams… but you have to be able to score…

Why the Mariners fans should keep their heads held high

yep

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC

Pun

Yer and why the F are they here today…

Maybe we should start posting global Football news…

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC

Beach

Fox have far more worries than Football…. Cricket cost a lot to get the rights and a lot to broadcast …. and their subs have gone down…

Banks, Telstra 30 shareholder won’t put money into Fox…

My gut says all codes will have to take a hair cut at the next media deal…

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC

He was MOM the other night and looks free from injury for the first time in a lot while

We need to talk about Matt Simon

LH

Agree

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC

Nice to hear from you again…

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC

Waz

Agree totally especially re Fox…

I have a feeling that this could be or lead to a ground breaking deal…

Football stakeholders need to get behind this deal and support it … I love that SBS have been included in showing as I understand it “”Away””” Socceroo matches and some other matches…

A-League grand final on delay is an issue but in the grand scheme of things I can live with it…

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC

Copy but from the ABC..

The ABC’s Director of Regional & Local, Judith Whelan, said the agreement to screen A-League, W-League, Socceroo and Matildas games was significant for the ABC and would form the cornerstone of the corporation’s sports coverage over the next two years. “We are thrilled to welcome Australian football into the ABC family,” Whelan said.

“The ABC has unrivalled reach into every corner of Australia, and we will be using that reach to help build the profile of football. We plan to use all our platforms to drive audiences to our coverage on ABC TV.” Whelan said the ABC was particularly pleased to welcome back the W-League after an absence of two years. “We have always been a big supporter of women’s sport in this country and will use every means possible to build the biggest audience we can for the W-League.”

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC

Another promo in this link…

https://www.ffa.com.au/news/abc-announced-free-air-television-broadcast-partner-hyundai-a-league-westfield-w-league-caltex

A-League locks in free-to-air TV deal with ABC