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Looking forward to watching some games

Your ultimate A-League Women season preview

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Your ultimate A-League Women season preview

Strange the AFLers still wanta play the game of look how big we are compared to you…

What they don’t seem to comprehend or appreciate is APL have agreed …

Lets look at some simple logic…

Most white males over 40 either follow sport or they don’t follow sport or have a passing interest only….. those that either don’t follow sport or only have a passing interest are not going to change and their sports viewing will be small to nil.

Most white males over 40 who follow a particular code don’t change their mind… they stay with that code…

Accordingly APL have said its no use even trying in this part of the market … Those that follow football in this market will stay …

APL have identified its far easier to get Football fans to the A-League than to convert AFL & NRL fans across…

The logic is simple….

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

Looking forward to the Mariners game to see how the academy kids do…

Just for the sake of sharing what I think is interesting… 11 players in our squad this year came thu our academy and six of those academy players are locals… and if you add Matty [Mr Clean] S & Olly we have 8 locals in our squad…coming from a former League dominated area and with a population of just over 300K, and the only side in the league were the surrounding area had no NSL teams… that not a bad achievement…

Also a number of our former academy players are in other teams as well…

The Roar's A-League Men tips and predictions: Match Week 3

DD

I am not lying … APL will not be chasing AFL fans ….they want Football fans….

What you seem unable to understand is how big that statement is ….

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

DD

Please accept APL has said we are not going to chase AFL or NRL fans over 40.

The white flag has gone they are yours… Near impossible to get them to change codes.

Further APL have said they are not planning to make broadcast revenue the main source.

Again you won..

So you have nothing to fear anymore.

Football plan to use IT as there main revenue source and AFL does not have overseas fans nor an Egame .

So we are no competition we don’t want your fans we want football fans and from anywhere in the world

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

Sorry you did as well but on at least three times

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

DD

What I posted was purely based on facts… sorry you can’t find them…

Second the A-L is not rubbish… its had some rubbish management… but we don’t anymore…

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

Pun

Great post mate…. also me thinks the APL have clearly identified who they are chasing and way methods they plan to use and accept its going to take time…

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

my mistake thanks AA

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

DD

I think your totally wrong….

This is not a smash and grab attempt ….

This is a build and build….

You are correct when you say today this is the position…. APL plans are directed at changing peoples perception of Australian Football… will it work… don’t know…. having said that you can analysis the methods of how they plan to go about things… IMO the plan makes sense and it will take 3 to 4 years…

So we shall see… personally I am feeling about it…

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

Some good points there Robert

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

Tow

I think you are right…. however APL has also said you are right…

There plan is to develop an all embracing web page, that will become the go to web page for everything about Football, including overseas leagues, state leagues, grass roots… to the point that if your child in U 10’s is playing this site will show you time and place…

Having got you on there site and hopefully often, you may also click onto what the A-L is doing… from this initial click APL viva the site hopes to engage with the person… and over time get them as a fan…

APL have said the journey from click on the site to look at the A-L on the site to a watcher and maybe attender of the A-L will take 2 to 4 years… and then the A-L product has to be good enough ….

TBH its the most honest assessment any Australian Admin has ever said… and the plan does make sense ….

It will be interesting to see if it works..

The AFL and NRL have nothing to fear from the A-League

The biggest problem is the lack of realism.
Agree
However
I see a different reality to you,
As a start, have you listened to the APL plans and how they plan to achieve them… second what do you think of Keepup… third have you seen the APL ad…
These are all related…
AS for moving to a new provider, second rate maybe and leaving the best… I see that as only partly right…
10 & 10 play compared to the ABC….. 10 wins by a huge margin.
Games shown…10 / Paramount compared to Fox ? ABC…. 10 wins by a good margin…
Live stream / compared to Fox / KO… Fox better but more than double the price for the stream with less content, and on Fox sub maybe 20% of the cost of Fox…
Does it need to improve… yep… but its been two weeks in… I remember Optus unable to stream and had to beg SBS to take the coverage back while they took some months to sort out their issues…
In simple terms, our rating are up a lot… we have more coverage than we have ever had before… we have far more money than the last Fox deal 32 million I think less contras… and we have an identified target demographic that seems to be well served…
Finally both APL & CBS agree it will take 3 to 4 years to rebrand and recover …. so I for one think we are going OK if we compare this to last year…

Football has lost its soul in Australia and only the fans can save it now

For anyone interested in the non promoted failing league that has no hope unless it can get back the soul of the ever popular NSL teams… those teams that have hundreds of thousand of fans willing to come on board … if ONLY ???

But for anyone interested on Monday night on Bold just after 10…. Bold have a one hour panel show on Australian Football…

Football has lost its soul in Australia and only the fans can save it now

Yes & No

Yes we need to get the active support back…

No its not the last missing piece to the jigsaw.

There is still a lot to do and its will require a lot of hard work…

What many want and many believe as well is that the answers and solutions are both easy to identify, and simple to do… when in fact there is a lot of hard slog to do, and a lot of what people want cannot be achieved in the near future…

Football has lost its soul in Australia and only the fans can save it now

Jordan

Unless you have detailed and inside knowledge you have no idea how much APL are spending on production.

I have read articles that say APL are paying for everything including the people calling and panel personal…. I have read that they pay for all Paramount costs… I have read CBS have provided a base service and APL can choose any game to increase cameras and thats the only costs they have… I have read APL and 10 are sharing costs….

I won’t even try to make a call on it as I simply don’t know or have access to information accept to say APL wanted control of the product shown… and they are still on a steep learning curve and are nowhere near finished…

Just on the Optus EPL coverage you mentioned… tis an interesting topic… consider the EPL coverage has a media budget in the billions per year and arguably 60 plus years of experience behind it …..

AS for Fox, I am not the mega critic many are of Fox… to me the Football community including the clubs had a civil war and Football torn itself apart… Fox rating fell thu the floor…

To think and BTW we had to have the civil war… but to think there are no consequences are simply wrong… and one thing was Football treated Fox media business as sorta unimportant… and then wondered why Fox dropped its standards…

But to your overall point… yes improvements are still needed and APL have said that as well…

Football has lost its soul in Australia and only the fans can save it now

Mods don’t take forever … two posts …

Football has lost its soul in Australia and only the fans can save it now

Hopefully my post comes thu soon its gone to the mods…

Nick I think you are totally wrong especially in many of the things you say are facts…

Football has lost its soul in Australia and only the fans can save it now

Nick

Sorry mate… I think you are so so so so so so so far from whats happening….

You have simply made claims that are not true…

You say hardly any marketing… mate unless you live under a rock its hard to miss…
==== Ads on 10 all over the place
==== A great web page
==== A great song
==== A logocial plan moving forward

You said we are getting half the money than Fox…

Errrr Fox was at best 60 million.
===== FA 30 million per year
===== APL 42 million per year.

Sponsors are down… yes agree….

Rating are up and up by a lot… coming off a low base but they are about 3 times last years numbers…

PUBLICKLY stated it will take 3 to 4 years to rebrand… APL have said they are only chasing Football fans…

I have no idea what your expectation are or what could be achieved … but you seem to want a full European Football model and revenue streams from day 1… no one can do that…

This time we have an Admin saying we need to rebuild…

ACTUALLY its articles like this that totally fail to take a realistic view of the position and say this is what I want … aside from being full of factual errors … it a continuation of the never ending negative articles based on what I would like the world to be…

Football has never been in recent history in a better place to build sustained growth… and stabilise revenue…

You are correct we need fans… but there are plans in place that IMO will work to get fans… I strongly suggest you read them and then discuss those plans …. I am very open to discussing what the plans are if they will work… but this is crazy ….

Football has lost its soul in Australia and only the fans can save it now

I enjoyed the match…. defense is an issue hopefully that young centre back pairing can get enough game time in before the world cup to improve and get used to each other…

As an aside its hard to find fault with 10’s coverage….

High flyer Kyah! Simon has final say as Matildas salvage draw against US

Gosford stadium has been voted on a number of sites as one of the best due to its location and view…

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The away day football experience: Following the Jets to Western Sydney

Just on the Sydney Melbourne thing….

You gotta say the MV & MC are stronger than SFC & WSW….

A buoyant Victory and a busted Sydney – just what the A-League Men’s needed

Simon

Lovely read …

Just on crowd rebuilding to previous levels… I think a lot will come down to perceptions of both the competition, and WSW….

At some point in time WSW need to hit form…. they seem to have caught SFC illness when for years SFC struggled in off field management…

Looking forward to both Jest and Drive By fans to the Coast for our matches…

The away day football experience: Following the Jets to Western Sydney

Seems a weird award…

Australasia is Sky Blue: Sydney FC named best team in region over Crusaders, Sixers and Storm

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