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Well I grew up playing league and support both codes so will say nothing of the tarty end to your comment.

Not sure where you get your arguement from. Can’t think of too many 20 year olds on 24 NRL tries. Joey Manu has just over double that try tally but has played over 110 games more. He’s on par with the likes of Latrell and Turbo.

He’ll do the same in rugby as he’s been doing in league – bring kids through turnstiles.

The best part as well is it damages the Roosters and weakens NSW prospects. Delighted with that.

After SBW and Cronk deals, latest 'pea and thimble trick' shows Politis is still two steps ahead of the opposition

Good article. Agree on Politis. Have said many times we have the wrong type of old boys network running rugby. Imagine what he could do for RA.

Disagree about Nawaqanitawase being a more finished product. I don’t think either are. Suaalii played very well in the rugby league world cup was the better schoolboy player and I think has developed in a more intense environment.

If you want to call it a draw in attack, in the air then let’s look at other attributes.

Suualii in defence wins by miles and miles.

Suualii can kick well and kick goals.

Suualii is more versaltile and has played wing, centre, fullback in rugby league.

If you take money out and said which one, I’d be picking Suualii hands down. And…I just don’t see a way back for Nawaqanitawase.

After SBW and Cronk deals, latest 'pea and thimble trick' shows Politis is still two steps ahead of the opposition

Ricky Stuart?

Hits and misses: How union stars have mixed success in making rugby code hope to league

Yes, it speaks volumes of his character. Confirms everything.

But I have absolutely no interest in hearing anything more. Honestly could care less.

Eddie Jones has second interview with Japan weeks after quitting Wallabies

As I say, money aside.

Both players compared I think Suualii will prove the better player in both codes.

No the monet is not great.

Done deal: Wallabies star signs with NRL powerhouse in brutal reality check for RA at start of 'golden decade'

Agree. He’s a good player no doubts but not the finished product. We have other wingers.

In my opinion, money aside, I think Suaalii will be a better player. I think rugby is getting a better deal in that respect.

Done deal: Wallabies star signs with NRL powerhouse in brutal reality check for RA at start of 'golden decade'

Typo. They finished top regular and won in the same year.

I’ve sacked my proof reader. Standards.

Anyhoo, back to the point. Leicester was good. Now, not so good. And while he might have a clause, if he doesn’t start getting wins against decent opposition, he might not need to worry about it.

'Energy and excitement' - McKellar ready for next challenge as England legend hails 'terrific' Aussie

He had a single good season as Wallabies coach. He had many poor ones. Painting him as a proven winner is complete rubbish.

I say again. His record is superior to any coach afterwards. His ‘one good season’ had us up near the top of the world with a RC and runner up in the RWC. As far as I’m aware, he’s the only Australian coach to win a Shute shield, the Heineken Cup, SR title and a rugby championship.

That to many is a proven winner. I don’t want him back. But trying to win an arguement through force of opinion doesn’t wash.

'Energy and excitement' - McKellar ready for next challenge as England legend hails 'terrific' Aussie

They won in 21/22 and finished top in regular season 22/23.

The point he’s making is pretty obvious. He’s beaten the two bottom teams and Northampton.

'Energy and excitement' - McKellar ready for next challenge as England legend hails 'terrific' Aussie

So if I’m reading your love of stats right, Cheika post 2015 had a record better than the next 2 coaches. Brilliant. Also cool to gloss over he took us to the RWC final in 2015 – this after winning the rugby championship (and three time runner up afterwards). Also recently took Argentina to the semis a team that now claims wins in New Zealand and regularly over the wallabies. Won SR title…. Won a Heineken Cup…. But you don’t like him, and of course, the stats, so he can’t coach.

I’m not advocating rehiring him. But I just love the spin you guys come up with. Much like McKellar. He’s on a role. Won 3 games! Against rock bottom Newcastle who haven’t beaten anyone and second from bottom Gloucester. They sit 7th. He’s definitely the guy we need.

'Energy and excitement' - McKellar ready for next challenge as England legend hails 'terrific' Aussie

Watch the games, not even close to the same defensive efforts.

'Pissed off': Why Eddie snubbed Noah and the five-month stint in France that's changed his outlook

Great stats. You can always count on stats. Fourfty % of people know that.

Tell me honestly, did you watch the full games at Toulon. I did. I doubt you did. Please watch Toulon vs Racing as an example. I ‘eyed’ the whole game. Glaring misses. Panic grabbers when cornered.

Check out the others.

I see Lolesio goes low on people he doesn’t stop nor near stop but who are double tackled. Is he effectively getting a completion for a paired or group effort because he is involved though completely ineffective?

'Pissed off': Why Eddie snubbed Noah and the five-month stint in France that's changed his outlook

Worst defensive 10 in Australian rugby over the last 2-3 years. Tell me I’m wrong.

Jones didn’t get everything wrong.

I’d advise everyone singing his praises at Toulon to go and watch the games. I did so dont need the hypobole. He was so weak defensively I felt for him. And he still panics if cornered with the ball. Yes, great kicker. Not much else.

'Pissed off': Why Eddie snubbed Noah and the five-month stint in France that's changed his outlook

Please. Go and read how this problem is developing from sub concussions. I can handle difference of opinions. But you are seriously infuriating.

The ‘problem’ is not that all these players copped high tackles or, to relate to your example, from headbutting goalposts because there’s no sign above them.

It’s from training on cold wet Tuesday and Thursday evenings doing clearouts or jackling for hours and hours on end week in week out as much as the big high shots and big clear concussions.

Vickery and Henson join list of legends in major concussion lawsuit against World Rugby

You are missing the point entirely and your commentary on such a very serious topic is quite disingenuous.

If – and it seems to be a big if – you want to inform yourself before commenting, go have a look at what the issues are for the players and what the causes of the dementia are. It is not the big shots alone, it is the repeated smaller hits – Sub concussions. Steve Thompson talks about playing through concussions that clubs knew about but also the physical demands of training and repeated blows during physical activity.

He also speaks of law changes to increase dpeed and size to make the game more of a TV product. How he had to put on huge amounts of size quickly. And more.

I’m sorry but this is a serious situation and people’s lives which will be cut short. As Steve himself says, he wishes he never played. I just find some of the comments disgusting really. A pathetic effort to get into the cut and thrust of forum debate.

Vickery and Henson join list of legends in major concussion lawsuit against World Rugby

Just like the RFU.

This is how it plays out. Major body say its being brought in. Clubs and players reject it. Goes back into consultation and nothing changes.

This is a legal procedure to protect the union governing bodies going forward.

'Can of worms': Rugby Australia introduce radical tackle law reform to protect players

I wrote a piece recently on similar with O’Gara as the next coach.

The only thing I’d like to reiterate is people currently seem too hung up on names and then wider speculation.

McKellar is struggling at Leicester. It will prove a great learning experience but it surely cant be accepted he is ready to lead internationally. Post 2027 – yes quite possibly.

While people pile on for Schmidt they also seem to want a return to the Wallabies free running ways. The two won’t marry.

O’Gara is adored by his team and his mantra of Keep Ball Alive one which we could all get back behind. He is a career coach who surely would accept he should go where the job takes him. I keep hearing he is looking at the Irish job and maybe so. But Farrell is going nowhere and there is a long queue of people who covert the irish gig and that list is only growing as assistants get more experience over this next RWC cycle.

RA must not fixate on an Aussie coach - why Ronan O'Gara is best choice to lead Wallabies after the Eddie calamity

To be clear, I was talking about Australia, wallabies and our SR sides as it related to our pathways and our player development. It does nothing for a debate in my opinion to have people jump in to attack on a very obvious minor detail that is implied.

So just to be clear, I’m talking about Australian super rugby teams in 2024. Not NZ super rugby teams or even Sth African super rugby teams of the mid 2000s. Specifically the following teams – Western Force, Melbourne Rebels, ACT brumbies, Qld Reds and NSW waratahs. Only them. Sorry for the confusion.

'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

Yes I was talking about Australian super rugby teams. Great that you do. I don’t. Not for a second.

'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

Exactly.

'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

Twas I’m trying to work out what you’re talking about. Firstly, I’m not defending your model of players coming in one week in advance as its clearly not what I suggested.

The beauty of playing in Europe and for Australia is the seasons don’t clash. The two dont rule eachother out. The premiership final is early June. The rugby championship is not until July. The Lions aren’t until July. And that’s on the off chance our guys are playing in finals. Might be a few, but not all. Will they miss April ‘camps’. Probably. Is it a critical miss? In my opinion no.

I’m merely suggesting that a law that keeps blocking players from maximising their earnings potential and development that also puts a block in place for young talent to get SR experience and exposure is pointless. It has worked for St Africa, very obviously.

Pathways…centralised…yes, but it takes years to see the fruits of success. Without success at the top you are not going to win back key stakeholders. And if more keep leaving the damage moves from its current critical state to dead.

'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

Don – spot on.

'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

Absolutely spot on. Every word of it. But again, how many of the Springbok side play domestically? Seems to work ok for them. But our stupidity includes insisting our wallabies should stick around and play SR – ridiculous.

'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

For the life of me I still cannot fathom why we persist in this Giteau law. It is completely stupid. Who do we think we are? There is no comparison between playing in Europe and playing super rugby. If you put a super rugby team in the english premiership they would get beaten and easily. We should be encouraging players to head overseas to:
(A) maximise their earning potential
(B) develop their playing ability

That should not make them intelligible for the Wallabies.

And while they do this – it opens up pathways for talented young players to come through and get exposure at super rugby level so we can keep mining our own potential. Rather than bemoan schoolboy dual code superstars from choosing the most logical thing to maximise their earnings and talents in league.

I’ve looked at Australia squads for this coming season. Where is the next wave of talent? Where are all the young players coming through? Most squads look fairly similar. So in Queensland some of these guys who played good school rugby and age rep rugby – if they don’t make the reds squad they play a very semi professional Hospital cup club rugby.

I keep reading rugby isn’t dead. We’ve just borrowed $80 million on top of $40 million. This is to keep a game running that is governed by a group that are completely out of touch with the demands of retaining its own players let alone attracting key stakeholders like new players, fans and sponsors in.

And to top it all off. With games played in quarter filled stadiums to fewer home viewers we are now telling Stan that we want a better deal and we might look elsewhere! God help me.

'You can't sell a secret': Biggest issues facing Australian rugby - and why it's in better shape than meets the eye

Scroll back to previous articles – I’ll include my comment below. Both Train Without a Station and I both brought this up prior to the game – I was slightly off, he was spot on. The game went ahead. Basic business for Hamish considering it was a sellout he couldve easily held out and used time for his deal.

Here’s TWAS’ post….

Apparently it has fallen through as it was agreed, but not locked in contractually and FFR want to pull out

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