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With GCU Palmer basically lost interest, deliberately upset the apple cart so that they would take the license off him.

Another factor is that during the WC bid, Gold Coast and Townsville were part of the bid, but once they lost the bid, the FFA lost patience with these clubs getting regular attendances of 4k or less.

I can’t remember the deal with the Rovers, it was formally announced, and then soon after, it sort of fell over, backers pulled our or something similar.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Ray Gatt
@Gatty54

So FFa board meeting finished close to 8pm. No announcement until midday tomorrow. Supposedly None of the bidders have been informed of any decision. Count down minus 15 hours
9:02 PM · Dec 12, 2018

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Heather Reid AM
@Reidyfour

Replying to
@Gatty54
Yep, nearly 5 hrs of robust, productive discussion on a very long list of agenda items. Details on #ALeagueExpansion to be released tomorrow. Meanwhile…

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Eamonn Flanagan
@nearpost
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Still meeting apparently. No leaks.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

LH asked why Melburnians look down on this part of outer Melbourne, and I explained that in stark contrast to the affluent Eastern suburbs, this part of metropolitan Melbourne is flat, flat, flat.

As it happens, the sheep paddock description is accurate, that’s what that whole area is, endless flat sheep paddocks at the back of the Werribee Sewerage farm.

For Bayern to attract a decent crowd is one thing, but to expect the Werribee Soccer club to attract people to go out to the edge of civilisation where they filmed Mad Max, well, let’s just say it’s a slightly different proposition.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Ha, you and I both!

The last day or two , they’ve been replaying the various planet of the ape movies, and I sort of sit for 15 min here and there to catch a bit of them. I very much am attracted to them while my wife detests them.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

It remains the case that the land at Tarneit is available because it remains to this day a large sheep paddock (like most of Tarneit).

And regardless of the number of decades which have passed, the geography in this area remains the same: flat, flat, flat and uninteresting.

Anyway, doesn’t matter, Team 11 is the preferred bid of the three Melbourne based bidders. They will have to play at least two seasons in the inadequate Casey Fields.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

It is indeed incongruous that the real clubs have unimaginative fans.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

I have SEN on most of the day.

In fact, they’re just interviewing someone from South Melbourne right now.

It’s a great bid, has it all, but the FFA will not pick them.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

With the Heart, ultimately they only got the nod because of the FFA’s inherent racism towards the old soccer migrant clubs. Quite clearly, South Melbourne was a better bet than Heart, then, now, always.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

RF
I always enjoy your posting, you always bring something fresh, you write well, you always leave us with plenty to ponder, but on this occasion, your colourful language may be a step too far.

It’s still a possibility that expansion will happen next season, but the odds are that it will be delayed by one season, and I really don’t see that as a huge problem, if anything, it allows all involved to line up their ducks (and there remains the possibility of three new clubs coming in at the same time).

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

More than one report doing the rounds that Government may not be in a position to formally announce the building of the new stadium at Dandenong within a quick enough time frame, almost certainly pushing expansion out by one season (to 2020-21).

On top of that we know the biggest clubs have been lobbying to delay expansion by one season, so at the moment, the probability is that it won’t happen until 2020-21.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

SEN Radio reporting: FFA Board will come out this evening to announce the two new spots – but still plenty of uncertainty about whether it will be next season or the season after.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

LH
I was born and bred in Footscray, lived the first 21 years of my life there, but ranged far and wide across the Western Suburbs (friends, girlfriends, work, etc).

There’s no doubt that a large chunk of Melbourne, especially those from the affluent Eastern suburbs, have always turned up their nose at the Western suburbs.

Williamstown and Yarraville became gentrified relatively early, but it took Footscray a long, long time, even though it’s only six km from Docklands.

I’m quite familiar with Truganina and Tarneit because I used to drive out to Cobbledicks Reserve a fair bit with an old girlfriend.

My everlasting memory are that the old sheep paddocks were lined with convict built dry rock walls. These were found in the whole region once upon a time.

The other memory is that for dozens of kilometres, the land is flat, flat, flat (and uninteresting in every respect).

On the other hand all the land East, all the way to the Dandenongs and beyond is quite hilly, forested, green, etc, etc, so that’s one of the reasons affluent Melburnians preferred the East to the West (historically).

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Harry
respectfully, I did read it, and I’m saying they will not go ahead missing a Melbourne team. They won’t.

Team 11 is the preferred Melbourne bid, and they will spend two seasons at Casey Fields (yes, I agree, it’s not great).

Expansion likely to be delayed by one season.

Two bids will drop out of running when they don’t make the first round of expansion (being 2 teams in 2020-21).

That will leave Canberra and South Melbourne to either replace the Nix (if they get dropped after 2019-20), or to be in the running for the next round of expansion one or two seasons afterwards.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

In theory, I understand the idea of getting in early while they’re giving the land away, and the local council will have it ear-marked for development over the next 20 to 30 years.

That’s all fine, but yeh, speculative is the word.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

So you agree that expansion will be delayed by one year?

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

RF
You will recall that the FFA gave the residents of SEQ a second team to follow. They were quite successful too, finishing 3rd in their first two seasons, but only hung around one more season before being dropped.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Talk it up all you want Harry, but it’s a sheep paddock out in the middle of nowhere.

It’s where the first Max Max movie was shot, an excellent spot to shoot a movie about the end of the world.

Anyway, the FFA clearly favour Team 11 over the sheep paddock (and let’s be honest, you can hardly blame them).

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Hard to believe they would expand by two clubs sans a Melbourne club.

Expect that NOT to happen.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Canberra Times:

Canberra await A-League D-Day but decision could be delayed

It’s understood a delay on the Victorian government’s decision to fund a Dandenong Stadium for Team 11 will likely see an expansion decision pushed into the new year.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Heather Reid has just publicly stated that she has no conflict of interest, and as such, will be part of the decision making process.

This means that the board should have a quorum today.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

SMH article this morning confirms that the Canberra bid would remain in the running, even if they miss out on the first round of expansion.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

Just listening to SEN radio, they have confirmed recent media reports that both Southern Expansion and WMG will pack it in if they aren’t amongst the two clubs given the tick for the first round of expansion.

That means there will effectively be two bids remaining: Canberra and South Melbourne. As much as the FFA hate them, at least we know South Melbourne will always be ready to come in, at a moment’s notice.

I’m not sure what the Canberra bid’s thinking is if they don’t get in first round, but with talk about Nix’s license being up for review at the end of next season, they might be talked into just hanging in there.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs

When you go through it all, it’s not difficult to come up with that combination of two teams.

First of all, strong probability that there will be one team from Melbourne and one from Sydney.

We already know that Southern Expansion is on the outer, report from the other day that the FFA actually encouraged them to approach South-West to merge bids, which latter declined. If that weren’t bad enough, as AR says above, it’s been clear for a while that the bid was just a ruse to get access to Sydney real estate, it never really was about a soccer club.

So that leaves South-West as the Sydney bid, playing out of Campbelltown.

As for the three Melbourne bids, we know the FFA continues its strong dislike of old soccer, so South was always on the outer, meaning the two other bids, each with their own plan to build stadiums in outer Melbourne.

Of the two, you have to think that a stadium in Dandenong is far, far more preferable than a sheep paddock out the back of Werribee sewerage farm. Also, the political stars appear to have aligned to get that stadium built with funding from three levels of government…but…yet to be formally approved. The FFA board might have to give them time to get that funding approval over the next few months. Big downside that the club might have to play out of Casey Fields for at least two seasons.

Canberra has done well with its bid, it would not surprise to see the FFA hold that one in store in case they don’t renew Nix’s license at end of next season.

D-Day arrives for A-League expansion clubs