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I agree this sledging or “mental disintegration crap is due for a review. Its nothing short of bullying an opponent. Just exactly when was such conduct in the “Spirit” of the game?
Those good enough at test level don’t engage in such rubbish and you can add Buttler to Dohni as good examples and Knott from long ago. Paine was never good enough as wicket keepr or batsman but just happened to be around at the right time much like Misbah from Pakistan.
West Indies did not and still don’t engage in such conduct which is restricted primarily to Australians. Lets face if Jeffery Dujon was never standing close to the batsman to sledge them even if he wanted to!

Why Tim Paine's sledging leaves such a bitter taste

Trent Boult is rated 20th best all rounder in world cricket!
McGrath would have been right up there 😛

Matthew Wade's latest shocking shot might be the end of the line

England’s county cricket has enhanced many AUS players over the last 50 years
G Chappell, M Waugh, to name two before they played tests.
Lots of SA at Hampshire before they played tests inc Greame Smith.

Matthew Wade's latest shocking shot might be the end of the line

Yes he was born in SA but raised in AUS so more AUS than SA

Matthew Wade's latest shocking shot might be the end of the line

Kepler Wessels played many “official ” test for Australia around the time G Chappell, Marsh and Lillee retired. He played county cricket for Sussex for many years before migrating to Australia and qualifying (don’t know if by marriage or residence) After SA were readmitted to play tests he went back to SA and played few tests including their very first post readmission against IND. But he was well past his best by then. Returned to SA and became a commentator. All players of SA background who have played for ENG like Smith, Grieg and KP also went to live in AUS.

Matthew Wade's latest shocking shot might be the end of the line

It should be about 15/20 tests. Remember Steve Waugh took 25 tests to get going and Amala looked a joke in his first 10 tests, both could have been dropped for good with justification. Also Kallis had a pretty slow start too in his first 10 tests.

Matthew Wade's latest shocking shot might be the end of the line

Fair enough, I forgot about him.
However, now Australia have/should have a better option than the 1970/80s. With the large Asian population it’s only a matter of time before a number of quality players with Indian/Pakistan background come through like Khawaja. Its taken east Europeans with no background in cricket 30/40 years to come through with the likes of Katich, Kasprowic, Duranovic (Pascoe) and now Puckoski. It will also fulfil Bob Simpson’s prophecy from the 70’s about the composition of future Australian teams.

Matthew Wade's latest shocking shot might be the end of the line

Any team that selects a wicket keeper to play as a specialist batsman means only one thing. Lack of good enough alternatives. Apart of Smith and Labuscha
agne Australian batting is well below par for test standards against a good Indian attack. Those old enough can think back to the 1983/87 period when Wayne Phillips and Mike Vellata were doing the same patch up job. Wouldn’t the Australian selectors love to have the “problem” they had in the 1990s/2000s with too many talented batsman such as Law, Lehman, Rogers, DiVento, Love, David Hussey and Marcus North who missed out on lengthy careers because of the likes of Waughs, Ponting, Martyn, Jones, Slater, Hayden etc etc.
Every team goes through a cycle of highs and lows but unlike Man Utd, Australia can’t buy players from South Africa, although I can see several young SA players rushing over to qualify.

Matthew Wade's latest shocking shot might be the end of the line

Why not Russia or China?

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

Guesswork!

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

Great, as tech is not 100% and we want certainty so get rid of umpires call decisions.
With LBW it should only be given if 3 reds on DRS and no arguments. Remember of course that there is still an element of uncertainty when 3 reds are showing but that uncertainty is reduced.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

Hotspot has been suspect for a while but there was a spike on snicko. Much more interesting were the 2 LBW shouts not given when much of the ball was hitting the stumps. That is my point that it gives too much leeway to the umpires which is being exposed with the use of the home umpires. Those two would have been given 9/10 but because its home umpires an extra dimension is added to the mix.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

Micko, i’m only looking at events since July 2020.
The brief summary about previous was to show why neutral umpires are essential.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

The “race card” that many have thrown at me fails because the third umpire was also white/English.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

There is data on umpire accuracy under DRS. I’ve posted a link to it in another reply.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

Matth, don’t forget the “controversial” stuff about the all white Tony Grieg.
Grovel grovel!!

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/which-umpire-fares-the-best-when-reviewed-by-drs-1220067

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

The difference is that if neutral umpires make the odd mistake, as they do,everyone moves on. How do you explain so many mistakes by Kettlebrough? If he is just a bad umpire you would expect him to give some bad decisions against ENG but don’t think that was the case.
Nicholls should have reviewed his dismissal-that’s what DRS is there for.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

There was bad/biased umpiring all over. Not just in Asian countries and sad that you have made it a race issue. Michael Gough is a white umpire last time I looked and Aleem Dar was the best around for a while.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

It was far from my case but a sad confirmation that some people are not able to deal with the truth. Why did we have neutral umpires in the first place?
Both NZ and SAF are currently playing with their home umpires and ENG due to play in SL soon. I will certainly be keeping an eye for the umpires and happy to do a follow up and hope that my theory of SOME UMPIRES favouring home teams (as happens all over the world in many sports) is confirmed further
Don’t think there’s too many white umpires in SL.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

Yes agreed, but on that basis you would expect a bad umpire to go on making equally bad decisions against all comers. Don’t think ENG got too many bad ones and that is the point here.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

As an umpire what is your explanation for so many of the Kettleborough decisions being wrong against the WI?

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

I guess it was only a costs issue. But the touring parties were expanded and would cost more.
I’m sure better effort could have been made to avoid any arguments and that is my point.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

I didn’t mention black/white. Indeed started with AUS v ENG 1970/71.
However now that you mentioned it this year much of the world has reflected on its past wrongs. The catholic church denied sexual abuse and covered it up for so long. There has been a reevaluation of discrimination around the world by decision makers, police and justice system where black/minorities are fined more and given longer prison terms. Australian mistreatment of aboriginal Australians is well documented. Why shouldn’t umpires have similar prejudices as they are from the population. Some of the former SAF players comments on equality have been pretty shocking.
Dickie Bird, David Shepherd, Michael Gough and Peter Willey and many others are/were excellent umpires as is Kumar Dharmasena and Aleem Dar before he lost it.
If you want to read the same old stuff read Mark Nicholas.

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever

Agreed. They had rotten series

The case for neutral umpires is clearer than ever