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You mean, the WBs were fifth due to ‘recent form’. Hmm sounds pertinent. Lets step away from the WBs – if a team enters the RWC at one ranking and comes out having gone up, its likely they have done better than expected, if they go down then they likely went worse than expected. WBs went from 5th in the world to 2nd in 2015. Sure seems like they performed better than expected. If they were 4th going in as you gripe about, it still would’ve been a net positive. Cheika getting coach of the year, and hooper nominated player of the year probably tells you something too. But don’t let my facts get in the way of your evidence, or was it evidence in the ways of facts, factidence???

I’ll leave you with a quote from a 2015 SMH article – “Wallabies not good enough to beat All blacks but even in defeat the Wallabies wildly outperformed expectations.” You may not agree with it, but this was very much the popular analysis at the time. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rugby-world-cup-2015-australia-not-good-enough-to-beat-new-zealand-yet-20151101-gknxeo.html

Cheika reveals his Wallabies regrets

No I’m not. Here’s the detail – Australia was in disarray having fired McKenzie and only just brought Cheika in 10 months before. WBs were ranked 5th dropping from 3nd in 2014, england 4th and wales 6th and Fiji also in the top 10. England and Wales were both strong teams at the time as 6 nations showed and had ‘home ground’ advantage/nth hemisphere conditions. Australia were outsiders in that comp. Yes, they got an easy run to the final in the quarters and semis, but that was earned by topping the pool. Here is one eg of david lord bemoaning WBs failure to get a bonus pt against fiji as a potential reason they wouldn’t exit the pool – https://www.theroar.com.au/2015/10/02/lack-of-bonus-points-could-kill-wallabies-world-cup-campaign/

Cheika reveals his Wallabies regrets

As with RWC 2019, plenty of ppl were saying the WBs wouldn’t get out of the pool. So, to win the ‘pool of death’ and make the RWC final was a huge achievement.

Cheika reveals his Wallabies regrets

1. slipper
2. FF
3. AAA
4. Rodda
5. LSL
6. Samu
7. Hooper
8. Valetini
9. White
10. Toomua
11. Korobeite
12. JOC
13. TK
14. Speight
15. Banks
Bench: Rangi, Sio, Thor, Philip, Valetini, Powell, DHP, Wilson

I think Samu/Valetini could easily switch as could DHP/Banks. This team would be mobile, have fantastic hands and no ‘glaring’ defensive liabilities in terms of one on one tackling ability and positioning. This team would look to generate quick phases and get a roll on in attack like the reds/brumbies with offloads and pops off the deck, flooding the channel. In defense it would be about fitness, bodies in the line and in motion and every man from 1-15 having the ability to hit the ruck rather than relying on a few key players. It would not be the most physically imposing but it would be like whack a mole – when one goes down three pop up.

Pick your Wallabies team for... whenever they play next

Both Hooper and Samu are very good defensively PK in terms of positioning, recycle and tackle completion. Neither would let in the tries LSL did last yr, or like the eg in NBs article this week. But, you are right in that they are not as physical up front/have huge breakdown presence like Valetini. Samu has been the best backrower at the brumbies this season imo and was for the 2nd half of last yr too. He is superior in attack. Defensively it is a pro/con. Do you want the physical presence in Valetini or the mobile workhorse in Samu… I’d be happy with both in the 23, one on the pine depending on opposition/form.

Pick your Wallabies team for... whenever they play next

that’s a totally unsubstantiated (and almost certainly rubbish) statement. How do you know what he does and doesn’t want to do? Cheika saw him good enough to be VC, Thorn captain, and in his last season alone improved his kicking, passing, running off the 9 and vision to use the blindside.

Pick your Wallabies team for... whenever they play next

When they are that blaringly obvious they have to tell you something (not everything). Let me guess in saying that ‘stats don’t matter’, you didn’t even bother to look at the link, you just stuck with your pre-conceived ideas… It is ridiculous to blame a single player for the performance of a 15 man team. Period. Would it be fair to say liam wright is no good because the reds have only won 2 of their 7 games? No, it’d be a silly thing to say.

What do they have to compromise with hooper? Name his weaknesses and how they need to be covered by other players on the team, and give examples. You call out the limitation of stats, but in its stead use subjective wishy washy statements with no evidence to back it up and are impossible to refute. Btw – here is a little clip of Hooper having plenty of impact on a game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgwJL3JpgMQ

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

Very good technique making shoulder contact at the hips, hitting players right in that hinge pt. and very often getting a lift on at least one leg.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

You do realise almost every professional rugby team has two (usually) loose forwards who play on the fringes as part of a pod system right? Have you never seen the likes of Read, Coles, Savea, Kaino, Higginbotham, Fardy score or make a run down the wing? Maybe, just maybe, they were designed to be there.. I do see why you think poorly of his game though, its because you think they’re still playing the same game as they were 20 yrs ago. Well must be more than 20 because I just watched george smith make several breaks, and even a chip kick down the brumbies wing in the 2004 final.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

There was a press release early on in the season with samu saying he was motivated by Rennie saying something along the lines of form is everything and incumbency counts for nothing. He is clearly working hard to get noticed.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

Stats of it didn’t happen. Look here and tell me Hooper isn’t the best performing flanker in Aus this season.https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/super-rugby/stats/players?sortBy=tackles

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

Geez that’s harsh – slipping from a world player of the year nomination to be defined forever more as a ‘form slump’ 😂

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

Lots of claims soapit, little evidence. You have shifted the goal posts from ‘he gets run over on the tryline’, to ‘he can’t stop someone dead’ to ‘stopping a forward at pace on the try line’. Any other nuances you’d like to add? Boot colour, minute of the game? You may not like to admit it, but maybe you have some bias against Hooper such that you overwhelmingly see his negatives, and rarely his positives. I’d also argue that many people (not necessarily you), hold an outdated view of what a flanker, particularly opensides, role is in the modern era where the game is so much faster and the jackall almost impossible given ruck laws. I think it speaks volumes that Pocock, to his credit, in his last couple of seasons measurably changed his game to a more ‘hooper’ like style because of those very rule changes. He honed his skills in attack to play that link man and attempted far fewer jackals, rejoining the D line quicker.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

Are you trying to blame hooper for getting cleaned out in a rugby game!? This is a new one 😂

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

I think its a matter of bias in this instance Waxy. List me a 7 who wouldn’t get physically dominated by SAs forward pack in Australia? Hell, in world rugby. I doubt you could find more than a couple. Curry and Underhill got handled in the RWC final, so they’re out. Ardie maybe, but he is an atypical 7. Cane is no bigger then hooper.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

Ardie is a freak no doubt, and does not fit the mould in terms of your usual 7. Hence why he has also played at 6 and 8. To be a pest though, I think the pt stands in that his role is not to make those dominant tackles/runs in tight off the ruck. He does it out wide. Thats whats impressive, is that he is such a big unit that has the agility/speed etc to match it in the backs and on the fringes and really maximise his size advantage to gain meters/dominate collisions. Put him in the middle against retallick, Etzbeth etc and he is no longer a man amongst boys.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

Waxhead, but is it a 7s job to dominate collisions? name one who is picked on this ability… A 7s role in this day and age is to have a huge number of involvements – this is what Hooper does best because he is so fit/fast. It is the tight 5s job and maybe your 6 or 8 to be physical. Also, Wright and McReight are no bigger/more physical than Hooper so you suggest no better alternates. Wright is taller but no heavier so hooper is actually more compact then him and mcreight is the same size… Everyone is ragdolled against SA, thats why you pick a quick team to tire them out and go around them (see NZs game plan of broken fast play). Why fight fire with fire when you can pick a bucket of water?

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

I think maybe an ASY or McReight would be a better 6 in terms of balance with LSL at 4/5. But I do like the mongrel Blyth brings as well…

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

He has stopped plenty dead in his time. Although he is small he has great technique and has fast feet so can hit at speed and rarely gets squared up. He is also not in the team to be an enforcer, thats the tight 5s job. that is why they make 5-10 tackles, but they are in the tight stuff and ‘should’ be dominant, and hooper makes 10-15 in the wider channels. Different roles. You don’t blame a winger for having no lineout wins, so why blame a 90kg openside for not flattening 130kg props.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

ISI is also backing it up with good stats this SR season. Definitely earnt the right to retain his spot and have first crack at 8 in my opinion.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

100% right Rhys. NB showed a couple of these efforts in part 1 of this series. Running from the front of a lineout to nearly charge a kick down on the other side of the field in one phase. Another was a ‘missed tackle’ from him in backplay, but he was the only one from the D line who was within 20m of the ball to even be there to make the hit.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

This is the thing, Hooper can often have poor stars in the way of a high number of dropped balls or missed tackles as examples. But he is dropping a 50/50 offload from a linebreak because he is the only one within 20m to support. He misses some tackles because he often (used to) shoots on the 13 to turn the ball inside so he had done his job despite the missed tackle. It’s amazing his tackle completion rate is so high considering. Although he does not often drive players back in tackles (he isn’t trying too), he does not get as dominated as you suggest soapit.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

So would most of us 😛 could be a reason for Rennie to have him in the squad. Just to get a few pts in his head to work on skill/decision making wise.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

This is my hesitation. No doubt he is keen to go head first into plenty of rucks, but maybe he is being encouraged to do so rather than advised against… Id also argue there are bigger fish to fry in the Reds defensive department then wrights output unfortunately. That fringe D was schoolboy and a key pt for McDermott to wear the 9 jersey again imo.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2

I agree entirely that the backrow is disjointed defensively. But I think i put the blame on LSL and Wilson more than Wright. He is getting through his work but being let down by others and is currently not as immense as Hooper to do the job of 3 others. Maybe I’m being too easy on him… The first two vids you put up are telling, Hooper rarely trots/jogs anywhere and would’ve shut that break down promptly whereas Wright watched it. Lack of urgency.

The great Australian openside debate: Round 2