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You’re right, expansion in SR was a bad idea for Aus. But, the very proposition you are making is to expand the NRC to a broader national club domestic comp? ie: thinning the talent pool and money pool further and thinner. ie: the same mistake twice!

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

Who knows. But trashing the current setup (which is succeeding in some areas and failing in others) while providing no viable alternative or an evidently worse proposition is counterproductive. If you think the NRC is expensive, how much is a comp with 3x the number of teams gonna cost?!

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

So in a country where we can barely find talent for 4 SR teams, you expect to create a competition at an equal or higher level then the NRC across all the shute shield, brisbane prem teams?!

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

No matter how many times you say grassroots and white elephant it doesn’t actually amount to a legitimate plan. NRL and AFL work because they have an order of magnitude larger participation/money base. RU cannot have a strong comp with dozens of club teams talent wise, or money wise. Secondly, do you think that if Brisbane norths gets into a national club finals, that UQ or brothers are gonna support them? What they need to do is attach these local clubs to certain NRC teams so that that grassroots support comes through at the NRC level.

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

Please list below these magical solutions that no one else in rugby australia circles seems able to figure out.

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

Secondly, how would the national club comp help fix any of the issues you mention, in a way that the NRC fails?

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

So it sounds like NRC isn’t the problem, rugby in Australia is writ large. Cutting a limb off won’t cure the body from a disease. What Australian rugby needs to do is build the level of rugby being played and start being competitive at SR and national level. The NRC is helping to build the talent pool in Aus, and therefore helping to achieve what needs to be done.

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

Still dilutes the player pool and only those clubs supporters will follow along.

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

His contract had already been extended when she came in. So she hired Johnson and created the selection panel to slow the rot. Got Rennie locked in early who now has a solid bunch of assistants around him too.

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

Yeah I don’t see why they can’t have club affiliations with relevant NRC teams – it doesn’t seem that difficult… Apart from crowd size/public interest, it has been a success in terms of creating that ‘in between’ tier of rugby quality that was needed as a stepping stone for SR. It is also allowing alot of ‘club’ players to play with SR and WB players more often and get exposed to higher level coaching. Win win win. So much of the young talent coming through now was fostered in NRC not to mention the likes of Kerevi, Naisarani etc.

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

Nothing worse then taking the legs out from under something before it even has the chance to stand up for itself. What’s the point of starting the NRC if you’re not even gonna give it the time to work… And for what its worth, I actually think it is working, it just needs time. Plenty of NRC players have come on to be solid SR and WB players. I’d say there is a decent return on investment there.

RA confirms national club competition in the works; NRC future unclear

agreed, although i’ve recently noticed he’s taking a couple of steps before passing. And he rarely snipes or locks defenders around the ruck base. Will have to keep a closer eye on him.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

who do you think is in line behind him? Does Powell get his shot, or do you take a bit of a risk and pick McDermott?

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

Not a bad 23.
1) My bolter – Irae Simone at 12. He has been Aus’ best these first 2 weeks imo.
2) I’d have speight in for Nawaqanitawase.
3) Haven’t seen enough of Louwrens. Powell safe option (although I haven’t liked him this season), McDermott for spark.
4) Toomua at 10 for experience, happy with Lolesio if he continues to impress.

Super Rugby Round 3 teams: Petaia ruled out in injury blow for Reds

Very hard done by. Sure wouldve done better then what hodge did last week.

Super Rugby Round 3 teams: Petaia ruled out in injury blow for Reds

Where is English?

Super Rugby Round 3 teams: Petaia ruled out in injury blow for Reds

Yep – in Rd1 hegarty’s kicking was rubbish (more pressure on Lucas), much improved rd2. I think McDermott needs to box kick more as well (he isn’t half bad at it), with more kicks looking to stay in field with a decent chase. Too many against the lions were kicked out with little angle to work with, sometimes not getting over the 22. Also, which 9 starts for the WBs come June? Is White available? No 9 in aus SR is a known kicker… something for Rennie to ponder. Powell, who’d be the natural first pick is taking too many steps for mine atm.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

Penney said he was working to rotate Maddocks into 15 on the rugby ruckus pod. But, he also talked up Beale’s fitness, communication and ability to open up the saders in week 1. Interesting hearing an outsider’s perspective.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

I’m sure these HUGE accusations are grounded in evidence and reason Tooly, because to be throwing such unfounded insinuations around would make you sound silly otherwise.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

But putting players aside, the pt is and you should agree, Thorn has not built the gameplan at the reds that allows Lucas (or Lolesio) to step right into that role and thrive. If you switched Lucas and Lolesio, do you think brumbies/reds would’ve performed substantially different in these first two rounds? I don’t think so personally.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

NB and this article begs to differ TWAS re: the brumbies ship. Not exceptional in terms of player excellency, but in terms of a well drilled team, with a quality gameplan. Look at who Lolesio has around him – Powell, Banks, Simone, TK. All experienced operators who have yrs together. Lucas has – McDermott, JOC, Petaia, Hegarty. McDermott and Petaia both young and inexperienced, JOC experienced but new to squad and Hegarty who has experience and time in the team.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

I think Lolesio has the spark, with the game mgmt shared between him, Simone and Powell currently. I think Lucas is someone that naturally plays whats in front of him with great vision, but hard to know if he has the game mgmt skills yet. He does not have an experienced 9 to feed off, but does have the 12. I think Hegarty, JOC and McDermott all need to contribute for the reds to succeed. Unfortunately Lucas didn’t start in rd 2 which I think was a mistake.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

But is it Lolesio steering the ship or Simone? Tbh I think the ship largely steers itself – somewhat the theme of this article. Making it a much easier, more fluent start to Lolesio’s career – noting that he is also doing plenty right. Reds looked no better without Lucas at 10 which says to me its a team issue not a 10 issue necessarily. Similar for rebels, Toomua was pulling out all the stops in half 1 to right the wrongs, but the team was in all sorts.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

I don’t think so tbh. I think the jury is still well and truly out, but Lucas made the last pass for the reds first two tries and several try saving tackles. The difference was the very theme of this article, that Lolesio is in a better and more structured team. Simone has been the standout general/playmaker for the brumbies imo (not that Lolesio is playing poorly by any stretch). Watch the match h/lights and Lucas does something positive in each of the first 4 snippets: 1) 1st brumbies try – Lucas tackles Kata at full steam. 2) Missed brumby try – Lolesio and Simone both nice touches, Lucas try saver on TK. 3) reds try – Lucas inside ball to Speight drawing Lolesio. 4) reds 2nd try – Lucas cutout to Hegarty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNXPdMlpLcY&t=156s

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics

The difference in cleanliness of reds attacking ball between week 1 and 2 was stark! Brumbies very good at making it a mess for the opposition 9. Lots of players blowing past the ruck, driving through etc just gives them a second here or there. I dare say that you only find that wisdom in a man who wears a bucket hat.

Why Warren Gatland is winning the battle of the basics