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Surprised to see Asafo Aumua get a spot, thought Samisoni Taukei’aho had been better and I’d have been interested to see how he’d go against this type of forward pack.
Reece will be interesting with Bafana Bafana likely to continue their aerial assault. I’d like to have seen Blackadder and Akira swap seats, seems far more logical.
All going well DMAC will only be required with a decent lead on the board – wouldn’t like to see him out there for any other reason.
All Blacks team: Weber at halfback, ALB returns, Mo'unga on bench as NZ chase 'Grand Slam'
Thy have Japan, Eng, Scot and Wales.
I’m picking them to to win 2-3 of these, likely enough to retain 3rd (esp if the Boks continue to struggle)
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Fair call… but with NZ players so used to playing in Aus (more than any of the other two sides) and with there being a lot of local support (again far more thing other two sides) I’d have thought it’s the closest thing to an away ‘home’ series for NZ.
Not to mention two of the Boks results so far have been too close to call, had they been played at home it may have been enough of an edge to reverse the result.
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hard to tell the difference, both have a penchant for kicking and faking injuries
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
ABs, and especially the Wallabies (5 of 6 home games) have benefitted substantially from this years draw – something that shouldn’t go unnoticed when evaluating success.
The Thursday rugby two-up: Who gains what from the final round?
Surely Bok fans and previous Boks players find Nienaber’s DNA explanation of this current style laughable, possibly even offensive. Bok rugby, as much as I know it, has been about doing all things well and not being reliant on just 2 or 3 facets of the game – (that was more for the boys up Nth, and not even true of them anymore).
I’ve defended the right of the Boks to play as they choose, it’s their prerogative right?
But it seems to me it’s only ok so long as no other side adopts this approach. A Wallabies v Wallabies style play out fine, as would FRA v FRA etc. But imagine for a moment two sides playing each other in the manner of this current Boks side.
I think both sides would be booed off the park. With neither side willing to advance with ball in hand match stats likely to read like an AFL or soccer match.
Thankfully this scenario is unlikely, with no other side possessing this ‘DNA’.
Aust are travelling well, and even without recent Covid developments I don’t see the Argies finishing well. Expect to see Wallabies put on another decent margin.
The Thursday rugby two-up: Who gains what from the final round?
You’re right, the draw that especially Aust (5 of 6 home games) and the ABs have had shouldn’t go unnoticed when considering success in this RC.
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Surely Bok fans and previous Boks players find Nienaber’s DNA explanation of this current style laughable, possibly even offensive. Bok rugby, as much as I know it, has been about doing all things well and not being reliant on just 2 or 3 facets of the game – (that was more for the boys up Nth, and not even true of them anymore).
I’ve defended the right of the Boks to play as they choose, it’s their prerogative right?
But it seems to me now it’s only ok so long as no other side adopts this approach. A Wallabies v Wallabies style would be fine, as would FRA v FRA etc. But imagine for a moment two sides playing each other in the manner of this current Boks side – I think they’d both be booed off the park.
Boks legend says lack of variation costing team as Nienaber insists 'DNA' will win through
and competitive running games sell better still
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
The ref was very poor in this area, allowing three blood injuries to be attended to on the field and numerous times weakly asking the Boks to ‘hurry up’.
It has been a criticism of this Boks side all year, and refs do have a free kick at their disposal to penalize time wasting.
ABs certainly would have been pushing the ref to hurry the Boks along, tiring sides is part of their tactics.
My d=biggest issue is that the Boks wasting time at every stoppage with the clock often still running, therefore stealing Rugby time from everyone, fans included.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
Then you are in the vast minority… time wasting is rightly being heavily criticized. It is a blight on the game, and those that engage in it to the extent of the Bafana Bafana Boks…
(I use the term Bafana Bafana to separate this Bok side from the other great Bok sides that obviously never considered it necessary or acceptable to behave in this reprehensible manner)
…should be prepared to cop the scorn of the Rugby community.
Clear?
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
Regardless, does it explain away all the other fake injury breaks and time wasting?
At some stage you’re just going to have to accept what they’re doing, and that it is being heavily criticized – and rightly so.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
wow… is that evidence? If we believe that faking injuries is part of their tactics is it so hard to believe that they are capable lying to cover it.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
Typo… fat thumbs
But they don’t even need to be asked…. after all the instances this year it is rightly assumed that they are faking
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
like I’ve said every team does it… but not this extreme
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
How are you so sure that is the reason, because the coach said so? maybe they’ve just been rotated.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
A few others have been ‘confused’ by intent of your ‘facts’ too I see.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
And yet you don’t acknowledge why games go over… 100 mins is about normal. Simply stating other games go over when complaints are made for faking injuries is lazy at best, disingenuous at worst.
The reason Boks games go over are due almost exclusively to faking injuries, not all the other possible legitimate reasons. No one seriously cares if games go over, unless is for the kind of tactics employed by this generation Boks, (or poor TMO practices, which are also heavily criticized). If you don’t believe they need to stop this, that without official intervention to cub this behavior there is no reason to stop – well then there is a huge disconnect between you most others.
And as I mentioned elsewhere, Boks tactics (yes others do it but not to their extreme) are stealing game time from opponents, fans and sponsors as many of their breaks continue while the clock is running.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
USA, Ireland and I think Wales
Springboks make two enforced changes for final TRC Test but Kolbe falls short
Skull every time a Bafana Bafana Bok gets ‘inquired’ but doesn’t leave to field…
actually just skull every time the whistle is blown, the numbers are about the same.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
how many times did he lie down faking an injury?
None… well then the Boks owed him time 😂
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
But you don’t seem to acknowledge the different reasons why. Some, like the Bafana Bafana Boks, is due to blatant, frequent time wasting (indefensible), others due to TMO, a run of penalties where a kick at the posts is denied causing halves to run over 40min etc.
Everyone can see what the Boks are doing, and the rate at which they are doing it.
Your ‘defense’ is becoming a little laughable.
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
Time wasting is punished in NFL, 10 yard penalty for delay of the game. You are clutching at straws trying to conflate stoppages in others sports with the extremely regular time wasting tactics of this generations Boks (not wanting to tarnish previous Bok sides).
Time wasting hurts more than just rugby's spectacle
With their penchant for kicking and faking injuries – I think it’s an apt appropriation
All Blacks team: Weber at halfback, ALB returns, Mo'unga on bench as NZ chase 'Grand Slam'