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A quick search will find you all scientific papers on the subject of flying and how it negatively effects athletic performance.
Not just assumptions

Tigers, Pies and Cats to hog the limelight as AFL unveils 2020 fixture

Isn’t profit more important than revenue?

Geelong is officially the best team of the decade

That’s fair.
Cousins had no one else so he was ending up at Richmond or not at all.
Ball WAS picked up with Collingwood’s first pick in that draft.
Albeit there were clubs that past on him.
But I understand your point still stands.
I hope he does, most of my family are Carlton tragics and I would be stoked to see them improve, albeit not too successful, they’ll become unbearable to be around.

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

So one poor game against Hawthorn is the sign of a definite downturn?

By that logic GWS and Western Bulldogs won’t be seen at the pointy end either after their finishes to the season?

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

Scott Camporeale definitely relevant, especially as Carlton had a pick in the draft before the Bombers.
Mal Michael never gave the Lions a chance to re-draft him going to Essendon at pick 2.
Ben Cousins only had Richmond interested in him, every other club had pulled out of the race for him.
I don’t think Nathan is relevant given he had sat out of football for 3 years before the Suns picked him up.
Bachar Houli had been training with Richmond for over a month before he joined them in the pre-season draft at pick 3. Before Essendon ever had a selection.
Even Luke Ball, Collingwood’s first pick at 30 was before St Kilda’s first at 32.

So of all your examples Scott Camporeale is the only really relevant example.

Not to say Martin won’t end up at Carlton, but I wouldn’t exactly say that history is categorically on your side.

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

I don’t think you can mount an argument that Hurn is more important to WC than McGovern is. Especially given McGovern is arguably the best key defender in the game.
As for Kennedy Vs Darling.
Darling kicked 10 goals more than Kennedy last year whilst only playing two games more than him.

Both Kennedy and Hurn are important players for WC I don’t want to minimise that. However they are not the best nor most important players in their respective zones. Not anymore.

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

Didn’t realise McGovern and Darling were 33?

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

Who else has apart from Ball and Stevens?

AFL Trades 2019 report card: Every club graded

Sorry Williams, not Edwards.
100% Jack

AFL Trade News: Joe Daniher, Tom Papley, Jack Martin miss out on deadline day

I’m happy with how it all went down.
Priority should be to keep M.Allen and
Brayshaw.
Also everyone keeps harping on about WC needing Rucks.
We have Edwards coming through as well as Hickey, Vardy, Brooksby and NN. Not short in the ruck department.

AFL Trade News: Joe Daniher, Tom Papley, Jack Martin miss out on deadline day

I don’t think there is a specific number that equates to fairness rather a case by case scenario.

The travel factor is the biggest issue.
Time in the air or airports which impacts on the recovery time as a whole and that is without looking at the negative impacts of flying on athletic performance, of which there are numerous studies supporting.

If you use M44’s example of crowd dominance as “true home ground advantage” then surely you would have to admit that Richmond then see more than the games against interstate opponents as “true home ground advantage” games.
Richmond would have crowd dominance against teams like St Kilda, NM etc.

Personally I think the fixture can be manipulated to create a fairer competition.
Clubs that travel the least play the games in Alice, Darwin or Tassie.

It's Richmond's league now: The unstoppable Tigers confirm their place in history

What a load of sh@$
If you agree that the interstate teams get such an advantage then you must also concede that they must also be disadvantaged in their away games, ergo mitigating the advantage across a season.
Also should be noted, WC, Fremantle, Adelaide and Port Adelaide get 10 “true home ground advantages” as they play each other on neutral ground.

So in 2018 Fremantle had a mere 4 more “true home ground advantages” than Richmond despite being on a plane 60 more hours across the season.

The AFL is ultimately a handicap race.
Surely you would rather win in a fair league?

It's Richmond's league now: The unstoppable Tigers confirm their place in history

Average recruiters, what a crock

Who'll end up really winning the Tim Kelly trade?

Can’t get 6, maximum is 4

Willie Rioli to 'come back bigger and better' from drugs test turmoil

Let it go Jonboy!
You’ve been harping on about how good Kelly is all week.
Not your club so you don’t have to worry about whether it was a good trade or not.

Stop being so god damn salty..

AFL trade news: Tim Kelly, Eddie Betts, Mason Cox and more

Don’t need another small forward.
Cameron, Petch and everyone seems to forget about Venables who spent most of the year recovering from his nasty concussion.

AFL trade news: Tim Kelly, Eddie Betts, Mason Cox and more

Way too early to call!

This could go either way, in terms of who wins this trade.
I don’t think anyone necessarily wins it at the moment.

Geelong have lost their 2nd best player in a time where they are in the premiership window, especially damaging with the aging stars that they have.
WC have gained a great player and something that they needed but have they given too much away for it..

I think there are two measures for it to have been a success for WC regardless of what happens at Geelong.
If WC win a flag with Kelly on their list, it is a win.
If when the inevitable drop off happens they don’t drop for long or far then the Kelly trade has to be seen as a success for WC.

Who'll end up really winning the Tim Kelly trade?

When they got Lynch?
Hope it works out as well for us..

AFL trade news: Mason Cox, Orazio Fantasia, Tom Papley, Ollie Wines and more

Agree Matti, happy with that.
Seems to be air compo to me, dependent on the later pick swaps.
14,24 and 18 😛

AFL trade news: Mason Cox, Orazio Fantasia, Tom Papley, Ollie Wines and more

Respectfully disagree berrlins, I think that Kelly is a must get.

Our engine room was our area of weakness this year. Whilst a fit NN makes a huge difference Kelly should be a priority.
Adding Kelly sures up our weakest line and makes WC a scarily balanced team in 2020.

AFL Trade News: Tim Kelly, Joe Daniher, Jamie Elliott, Ben King and more

What do you consider to be fair compensation for Kelly, Aransan?

Carlton's big fish could help Tim Kelly become an Eagle

He’s out of contract though?
They won’t keep him.
Whether he ends up at Freo or WC is yet to be seen but he won’t be at Geelong.

Carlton's big fish could help Tim Kelly become an Eagle

Considering they are both contracted it is a different story..
But if we are playing the how much are they worth game.
Shuey 1st and 2nd rounder
Gov 2 x 1st rounders

It's official: Tim Kelly requests trade to West Coast

Brander played for the Bendigo Pioneers, not Geelong Falcons.
Was at GG in their Strength and Conditioning when Brander was there, great kid, had a few problems with his hamstrings in his final year.

It's official: Tim Kelly requests trade to West Coast

Unless you were a professional athlete during your time racking up long haul flights your personal experience doesn’t count for much.
There are numerous scientific papers on the negative effects of flying and athletic performance. Travel fatigue, exposure to mild hypoxia, disruptions of routines, plane noise, prolonged sitting all of which can effect athletes for up to 2-3 days after travel when 2 or more time zones are crossed. These might sound like small things but in a competition is close as ours is a team being off by very little can make a large difference.

It isn’t the flight time alone, although that is the most measurable time.
The waiting in the airports for planes, especially if they are delayed.
Time to and from the airport.

I understand that the layout of our league means that things are difficult geographically with a large portion of the teams located in Victoria but an extra home game for the interstate sides slightly mitigates the extraordinary travel disadvantage.
Even small changes to the fixture, like getting Collingwood or Richmond to fly to Tasmania to play instead of giving it to teams that are already flying 4 times as many hours could slightly change the evenness of the competition.

The AFL is only interested in what makes the most amount of money, which means that we have a handicapped competition.

Geelong and Richmond set the standard for excellence, precisely a decade apart