Paul I totally agree with you! I personally find Ray Warren’s commentary intolerable to the point of it almost being comical. I don’t think I made this clear enough in the article. What I was hoping to point out was that we could potentially take a leaf out of their book. I also do think that as intolerable as it may be to people who have more knowledge of the game and can make judgements of the game themselves, it has more appeal to the uninitiated wider public, which is what rugby needs.