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Come on, you should know we’re a team of 5 million. We all get a say in the selections. You must be on the email list?

Oh- you’re not? Bugger… well this is awkward… sorry bro. I guess we’re a team of 4,999,999 then…

Christie gets first start, Cane returns for All Blacks vs USA

Always chills, and hairs on the back of your neck stuff. Especially the ones performed with such emotion and feeling. Really feel for Paige and the kids.

Friends and loved ones perform moving haka for Sean Wainui's wife and children

3:46 in this clip, if I am not mistaken. Looks like against the Blues. Credit to West for posting this link earlier.

'One of our tallest trees has fallen': All Blacks' heartbreaking tribute after Super Rugby star dies in car crash

Yep, can’t forget it was 5. First and only player in any form of Super Rugby to get a handful. A real underrated talent.

'One of our tallest trees has fallen': All Blacks' heartbreaking tribute after Super Rugby star dies in car crash

Devastating news. He was one I always loved to watch, but more importantly he leaves behind his wife and tamariki. Really tragic. You can see in the clip of him doing Haka with his infant son how much he loved his family and heritage. Aroha nui Paige, Kawariki and Arahia.

'One of our tallest trees has fallen': All Blacks' heartbreaking tribute after Super Rugby star dies in car crash

Hi Brett,
While I don’t comment much these days, I feel it would be good to put a reminder here.

Had the rugby officials you speak of actually been consistent and allowed Erasmus the post match platform that every other coach gets

He is not the coach, so gets no platform. He was allowed on the field as a water boy precisely because he was not the coach. SA Rugby can not have it both ways, which I am sure you would agree.

Erasmus is royalty in SA, so the danger is that people are letting that loyalty get in the way of objective discussions. Rugby use to be the gentleman’s sport where the referee was respected on field and proper conversations were handled in the proper space.

Below is a link to an old Roar article that touches on that. It might be time for a refresher on what makes our game great and what sets us apart from the other codes that allow free-for-alls on the officials.

Wasn’t rugby supposed to be a gentleman’s game?

Erasmus misconduct hearing set for October

The potential 50/22s certainly impacted the ABs when Steyn came on. You saw Reiko tearing back to try and stop one after Steyn had kicked a couple that way. Nick Mallett on Rugby Pass repeatedly pointed out the ABs had dropped 3 back to cover the kicks which left more space in the front line.

Do you think this is an example of exactly why the 50/22 was introduced? The ABs certainly seemed paranoid about the kicks in that second half.

Get your questions in for Issue 29 of Coach's Corner

While not being active anymore, I do stop by to read my favourite writers. One of your best mate.

Celebrating 100 Tests and 100 years: 'There's never a winner in NZ vs South Africa, just the next battle'

“I don’t remember an uglier time in the game.”

In this we agree. It seems any opportunity to have a crack and attack another Union and the crowd just piles on.

Even The Roar has increasingly become toxic and clickbaity, with everyone trying to cry foul of everyone else. Reasonable debate about rugby seems to have taken a backseat to ‘calling out dog acts’, virtue signalling, and name calling.

I’ve generally tried to remain open minded and reasonable, with greater or lesser degrees of success depending on the situation. But I think I’m done with the Roar. This world is a toxic enough place as it is, and this was a place to come and escape with like minded rugby fans, now it is attack attack attack.

Thanks guys. It’s been fun.

'We're comfortable': NZR boss defends Bledisloe no-show in face of Australia's 'emotion'

And go on to win 😛

Sorry, all this hyperbole and red mist clouding everyone’s eyes is just laughable now.

But I did like your comment, as I can just see bloody Coles doing that lol

'We're comfortable': NZR boss defends Bledisloe no-show in face of Australia's 'emotion'

There’s a lot of cherry picking bits and pieces of information to support a position.

I think this is very much a case of everyone has an opinion and is choosing the bits that support it, or contradict it the least.

WATCH: Dave Rennie tears New Zealand Rugby a new one in extraordinary presser

“While McGowan did not rule out an “arrangement” that would grant the All Blacks – who already lead the Bledisloe Cup series 2-0 – exemptions, he conceded the game might not go ahead as scheduled.

“We are not sure,” he said.

“Maybe we have to work out some arrangement, or there may be a bubble, or they just have to comply with the rules that exist for everybody else.

“It’s a moving situation and it would be disappointing for rugby fans if we are forced to cancel the game, but that is the nature of the world we live in.”

That’s about the latest thing I can find in the lead up to the announcement that NZ were not going to travel. So there was no guarantees that they were going to be able to play that first game. And nothing had been scheduled properly after that – which apparently was the issue which NZR gave RA a deadline to fix. A deadline they missed.

There appears to be a lot of half statements, positioning and posturing to make the other look worse, which is disappointing.

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

“Lie down with a dog. You gunna get fleas.”
Rein it in mate, you’ve gone a bit over the top here. The RC can still be scheduled if SANZARR can actually get their shot together – which is the problem.

WATCH: Dave Rennie tears New Zealand Rugby a new one in extraordinary presser

Well, history is relevant, but your right in the sense that teams start on 0 points. Maybe read the comment I was replying to though if you’re confused.

WATCH: Dave Rennie tears New Zealand Rugby a new one in extraordinary presser

Yea, deadlines are pretty tough to hit. I work on banking and our normal deadlines are really out of whack.

I guess when you are trying to plan you do need to make a decision at some point though as logistics have to be considered.

At the end of the day, we’re all missing out on rugby and all pretty gutted. The best we can do is actually try and understand the decision.

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

I prefer whites from Marlborough, but can always knock off a nice Red from SA.

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

I cant comment on that conversation, I wasn’t part of it. I think the truth is somewhere lost in translation to be honest. I assume you weren’t part of the conversation either, and I think we both know enough about to both parties to not truly believe either one fully.

I think NZR could have spelt it out more clearly to Marino’s. But also think for him to come out and say he had no idea, is quite disingenuous too.

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

Completely agree.

There is a lot of misleading half truths and hyperbole blowing this thing up.

WATCH: Dave Rennie tears New Zealand Rugby a new one in extraordinary presser

RA knew about it. NZR gave them a deadline to confirm by midday, they couldn’t meet the deadline.

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

So it also appears RA knew NZR wanted an answer, set a deadline, and RA missed it. So why is RA saying they didn’t know this was going to happen? Did they not know they missed the deadline?

Your report says they asked for 3 more hours, clearly that wasn’t granted. Clearly RA knew far more than they initially let on, and if DR was ‘blindsided’ maybe he should be having a go at his boss who didn’t keep him in the loop.

NZR may have needed to be more clear when the requested extension was not granted and they were going to make the announcement – we don’t know what that conversation was. But RA is trying to play the innocent victim here who had no clue, when the article you keep posting clearly shows this to be a lie at worst, or a deliberately misleading at best.

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

The reporting here, even the wholly biased Fox sports, also says that RA knew that NZR were looking to not travel and had provided a deadline to RA which they did not meet.

All this ‘we never knew, they never told us’, is very misleading. From reports on both sides of the ditch now we here that they knew there was a deadline and it wasn’t met. No one should have been ‘blindsided’.

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

Yea, you’re right, so we wouldn’t have been watching the 3rd test, I guess.
My point was really Rennie is trying to get on his ‘good of the game’ high horse, when a few weeks ago, it was solely Australia’s priorities he was looking out for.
It’s the same as all these holier than thou, bitter and twisted Aussie fans, letting out years (decades) of frustration, blowing this whole thing up out of proportion and actually losing sight of some facts.
Some of the narrative from people who should know better is embarrassing.

WATCH: Dave Rennie tears New Zealand Rugby a new one in extraordinary presser

Why? We beat them in the World Cup.

WATCH: Dave Rennie tears New Zealand Rugby a new one in extraordinary presser

“There’s only one of us who is interested in doing what’s best for the game.”

Was DR doing what was best for the game, or the best for Australia’s chances of a Bledisloe win when he said –
“We’ve talked about being prepared to be flexible and play on the 14th in New Zealand so that’s one of the likely outcomes but there’s certainly no option to play all three tests in New Zealand”

If he had agreed to 3 in NZ, we would be watching the 3rd test this weekend.

WATCH: Dave Rennie tears New Zealand Rugby a new one in extraordinary presser

Everyone seems to have missed that point. They haven’t pulled out or cancelled the RC, they have said they are staying put until a schedule has been confirmed. It seems inconceivable that a schedule hasn’t been sorted yet?

'Bloody angry', 'incredibly disappointing': Rennie furious, Marinos makes staggering claim about NZR CEO

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