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To be honest, I think SA have a long long history of doing their own thing and not caring what the rest of the world thinks of them. While it lead to missing out on the first 2 world cups, that kind of self-confidence and giving the rest of the world the middle finger, in itself is commendable. NZ is probably a little too pre-occupied with making sure we are included in a world map (sometimes we get missed off 😔 )
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks
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Surely this is satire… I mean… it has to be?
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“What do you think history will say in 50 years from now when today’s generation is in care homes.”
“And after those diabolical series the global interest in this sport dwindled away until its final tournament in 2031, when it was sued out of existence due to ongoing concussion lawsuits.”
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks
“Man! The 2015 ABs just barely beat the 2015 Boks who would surely lose to the 2023 Boks.”
Can make this really easy. SA won with NZ missing two kicks. Just one goes over, and SA lose.
Swap out Ritchie for Dan, that kick goes over. NZ win.
Swap out Cane for McCaw, NZ keep 14 on the field, and make smarter decisions arguably NZ win.
For me, based on the actual 1pt win against the 14-man ABs, with not one, but 2 missed kicks, this isn’t a hard question?
Can reverse the question though, – do you think the ‘15 ABs would do WORSE than this ‘23 ABs did ex Sam Cane?
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks
History was written by the victors when it was conquest. I’d suggest is now written by the prevailing media.
Take the recent Lions series between SA and Lions… what’s the first thing that’s springs to mind… is it the victory by SA… or the Rassie video?
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks
To be fair Harry, there is no doubt the ‘23 ABs are no where near as good as the ‘15 ABs; and the Boks barely managed to beat a 14-man ‘23 ABs.
Based on that I’d say the ‘15 ABs team win easily.
That’s taking nothing away from SA being the best World Cup Team – they absolutely know how to win this tournament and trophy. And while this trophy remains the pinnacle of our sport, they stand atop the mountain alone.
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks
Shhh… we’re meant to believe this Bok team is the greatest team the sport has ever seen.
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No one is surprised you don’t see anything wrong there 😂
SPIRO ZAVOS: 'Crazy brave' Boks are a team for the ages - but key decisions cleared their path to glory
Mate, from your comments, no one bloody knows what game you watched 😂
SPIRO ZAVOS: 'Crazy brave' Boks are a team for the ages - but key decisions cleared their path to glory
It was close to the neck for sure, but the ref and TMO both looked at it, and they ruled it was fine and very clearly only penalised falling on the leg. It almost impossible to stay well clear of the neck, and as long as there is no cranking of the neck or wrenching, and any force is applied through the shoulders rather than the neck, WR have ruled its fine. Bongi certainly had no neck issues, it was only ever his leg.
SPIRO ZAVOS: 'Crazy brave' Boks are a team for the ages - but key decisions cleared their path to glory
Because it wasn’t around his neck, and ref and TMO clearly say this and agree.
The only ones bringing it up are SAs looking for more offences.
SPIRO ZAVOS: 'Crazy brave' Boks are a team for the ages - but key decisions cleared their path to glory
“I think you will agree that any “accident” that results in an opposition player leaving the field, needs some kind of sanction.”
I think you’d agree if the Boks made damn sure Barnes knew it was tactical replacement, and wasn’t an injury, either they were lying, or he wasn’t forced to leave the field.
SPIRO ZAVOS: 'Crazy brave' Boks are a team for the ages - but key decisions cleared their path to glory
No one argues Cane shouldn’t be a card. The only card on dispute is Frizzels. Correctly rule and his card disappears, ABs have 1 card, aligned with their average.
Your point actually supports SA being lucky that ABs got 2 cards.
Interesting that Frizzels card was given for injuring a player but the Boks still got away with lying and saying it was tactical and not an injury replacement.
SPIRO ZAVOS: 'Crazy brave' Boks are a team for the ages - but key decisions cleared their path to glory
Billions is hard to believe, come on.
Maybe millions, but the overwhelming majority will be SA fans. This game was not a great advertisement of what rugby can be. Let’s not pretend it was.
SPIRO ZAVOS: 'Crazy brave' Boks are a team for the ages - but key decisions cleared their path to glory
I’d need to rewatch _ and I do t think I can bring myself to do that 😢
But I think given he said ‘sorry’ which refs don’t tend to say. And he said ‘you didn’t do anything wrong’. I think it’s fair to assume he admired a mistake, as much as a ref will do on field.
I think there is room for interpretation and depending on your motivation, you could interpret it another way.
But, this is also going off my rather jaded memory, and to be honest I doubt I will rewatch it 😛
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
It’s an interesting one, I agree with you. The laws can be implemented in a number of ways in which they aren’t. If you read the laws and then watched the game, you’d remain perplexed as to what actually happens.
Pre-bound players
Maul forming in front of ball carrier.
Rucks with player shoulders below hips.
Hand a in the ruck from the half back.
Pre-jumping in lineouts
Letting go of/throwing a lineout jumper (celebrated in a recent game but actually illegal)
So many things the laws could be applied to but are not… or applied to where they shouldn’t…
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
This is a losing battle against a couple of these posters Geoff. If they can’t/didn’t hear the very clear and detailed explanations of the ref and TMO at the time, which are completely clear and unambiguous, ain’t no way they will listen to you or I, or anyone else here.
They have created their reality and will revel in it.
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
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Literally in the game, live broadcast. Explained by the TMO to the ref, the ref then explains it twice to each captain…
…did you even watch the game mate? so many of comments kind of suggest you didn’t?
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
To be fair jimbob, MOST media has taken that route, not just NZ media. Make of that what you will.
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
I think what he said can be taken a few different ways. It’s pointless arguing it though, the engravers finished 😂
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
I get that mate, but the rules don’t allow for that. I’d live for that to not have been rubbed out, but Foster put it really well, we scored a try, had it rubbed out, so went back and scored it again.
Even though only one shows on the board, we scored two (unofficially).
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
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Your quote literally contains the word ‘probable’, and then you deny it and say ‘definite’ – what?
Even if you wanted to infer that logic, we know a try definitely would have been scored because it was! 😂
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
Think you’re getting a bit defensive and reactionary to this one mate. Read Peter and Geoff’s responses to your comment; you’re well off the mark if you think that’s what Geoff said in the article.
The World Cup Wrap: France 2023 got a final befitting the host nation - imperfect, baffling and historic
Yea, the way RA have statements made very carefully to be factually true while giving the impression of saying something else.
Like the whole ABs delayed Perth trip a few years back. They are masters of spin…
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I hav been very close with some SA in my time – was engaged to one for a long time – so know secondarily some of the challenges.
I think when we live in Australia and/or NZ we think we understand race relations, but that’s nothing compared to the complexity that you need to contend with over there.
Sport is very much a nice break from the reality and the challenges of everyday life. I don’t begrudge the Boks winning – in-spite of me giving you all some grief about it 😛
Boks won, and it’s hard to argue that the Bok team in general has been the stand out World Cup team, 4 from 8 is remarkable.
Enjoy the win mate. And we’ll see you next year 😊
Legacies can't be won: History won't look back kindly on Rassie's Springboks