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Love football first and foremost although I keep one eye on most ball sports. Watching live rather than TV is my preference and away games are always more fun even when you lose.

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Great memories Apaway. The 1972 cup final was also the centenary of the cup and in the UK they produced coins and a folder come booklet for them which I still have amongst my football books. Unfortunately, This site doesn’t accept images so cannot share with you. I don’t suppose you have such fond memories of the 1973 cup final – May 5th, my parent’s wedding anniversary and Sunderland did the deed on That star studded and very talented Leeds team much to the delight of most neutrals. Heroic goalkeeping from Jim Montgomery is my lasting memory and seeing manager Bob Stoke smiling away at the end. I used to attend so many games In those days but by 1975, it could be a dangerous pastime due to the hooliganism and violence that was flaring up just about everywhere and as a young teenager, whether you were involved in it or not, the police treated you like the scum of the earth- to be fair, the behaviour of many meant that was not a really unfair description but it was tough – especially away games. I have the scars to show for it!

How the 1970s made me a football tragic

Stuart – May 10th 1980. I had the good fortune to be at Wembley that day with quite a few friends all supporting The Irons. I was at University in London at the time so with the help of some art students we made a giant banner “You May Have Kopped Liverpool but Hammers will Iron You Out”. A reference to the marathon semi final that Arsenal won in a second replay. In those days you could take enormous banners with large poles into grounds – even though there was an under current of violence at many venues. The cup final was generally peaceful though, bright and colourful and there were always some great banners – some well decorated, some witty. Lots,of references to Rice in the Arsenal side…..We had traveled to Elland Rd to see West Ham dispose of Everton thanks to a Frank Lampard rarity very late in the piece and that was after traveling to Villa Park for the first drawn game.
My family was always (and still is) divided between West Ham and Chelsea after a bit of “inter marrying” by an older sister. However, that season my best mate at the time and I decided we would go to whoever had the more appealing 3rd round tie and West Ham were drawn away to West Brom so a quick trip up the M1/M6 to Birmingham along with thousands of others decked out in claret and blue – well it made a great day out with a victory and so the story gathered pace. We went to all their cup games – and most of their league games too if the truth be know. In those days you queued up for cup final tickets and although we had the right credentials to secure tickets, we slept on the pavement in Green St and were very early in securing our tickets on a Sunday morning a few weeks before the final. It was one ticket per person and no chance for ticket touts to muscle in as I had experienced queuing up for tickets previously. You had to have attended X number of games and bought a programme – they cost about 20 cents in those far flung days!
Paul Allen became the youngest player at the time to appear in a cup final at the time and would have almost certainly scored but for a professional foul by Willie Young but it was the mercurial Trevor Brooking with a rare headed goal that took the cup back to London E13. We went back to college to a student disco that night having secured a crate of Champagne (12 bottles) the dance floor was awash with it – don’t think we actually consumed much as we insisted about every fourth song was the club anthem “I’m forever blowing bubbles” – yes we had a 7 inch single of it and we made sure everyone present sang along irrespective of whether they even liked football never mind supported West Ham. Join in they did though and it was a memorable night and next morning we joined the crowds along Green Street to welcome the team on their open top bus parade and celebrated in the Anne Boleyn again with pie and mash for lunch washed down with a few pints.
Thanks for reminding me of happy times at football – a long time ago now but it still shines away in what is a long list of happy times granted by this sport I have loved for so long and am sorely missing now.

In troubling times I'm calling on your football memories

Well my comment wasn’t totally serious but they play FIFA as far as I’m aware!

Whoever wins the A-League will be the best at playing behind closed doors

Your comments about distraction are pretty well spot on Waz. You want to look away and not take in any more but you just can’t as it hits you from too many angles.
The A League should be played out online with a representative from each club playing FIFA. The skill level would increase no end, there’s no VAR and the crowds are amazing even when the teams are struggling…..seems like a perfect answer to me as it fulfils all the social distancing requirements as well!

Whoever wins the A-League will be the best at playing behind closed doors

Is anyone really the slightest bit concerned about A League or sport in general right now? Distraction from what is in front of us 24/7 may be a legitimate argument but the very fact that games are being played in empty stadiums only serves as a reminder of how things are, and so distraction does not work.
I watched about 2 minutes of the Rugby League game last night before turning to some televised fiction as a distraction from the bombardment of information and reminders of how appallingly behaved some people are. I’m not sure I understand the definitions of social distancing when I see sports people in closer contact than I ever would engage in the workplace.
Unlike in leagues where there are promotion and relegation issues to be fought out or argued, the A League could stop right now and declare “as is” with little in the way of controversy and contentious argument. Right now it seems an insignificant part of life,although I still like to think, talk and debate various topics but it does seem a trifle frivolous.

Whoever wins the A-League will be the best at playing behind closed doors

I hope you are right Waz. Personally I feel depressed watching games with few fans – no fans is far worse!

The Roar's A-League expert tips and predictions: Round 24 (sort of!)

I predict that you will not see much in the way of change to viewing figures on the various platforms. Watching football in empty stadiums with the noise of players echoing everywhere doesn’t hold a lot of appeal. Whilst I accept that the focus should be on the football, it all goes hand in glove. However, overseas viewing may well increase given there Is nothing else going on!

The Roar's A-League expert tips and predictions: Round 24 (sort of!)

Cameras lie, tables don’t as they only display statistics based on what has taken place.
You cannot sustain an argument that says Sydney FC are only a little better than other teams. At least, you can’t argue the case unless you hide or exclude a whole bunch of known factors – but often they are the ones that don’t show up in a statistical analysis.
I recall sitting in the departure lounge in Brisbane early in the season watching SFC play Wellington and imo Wellington were by far the better side (highly subjective) but Sydney won the game by scoring a pretty spectacular goal that killed off the Phoenix momentum at the time and there’s just one of the factors. We have seen SFC win plenty of times when they could just as easily have lost. You can argue that this will support the notion that they aren’t much better. However, they are better at winning and finding ways to,win. They might only have a few shots on goal but if their conversion rate is higher than other teams, that is a telling factor. When you listen to Simon Hill and the gang you get the impression that any time Le Fondre gets the ball he is going to score – and Fornaroli as well -,used to be Berisha. It might be cloud cuckoo land but it is real and there is always a sense of disappointment in the commentary when they fail to find the net or they hit the ball high over the bar with the skill of a true Sunday league player. Consistency and producing football at the same intensity is something SFC have displayed that no other team has come close to this season. Adelaide are the best example of a side who at times have been excellent to watch and the next week, awful, likewise MV, attractive football but no end result. WSW mediocre for the most part and then they find a spark of life, win a derby, score five against Adelaide and then start believing the media and so they don’t really turn up for a game in Brisbane. Find that desire and intensity and I’d argue that quite a few teams can match SFC on the field, without it they are “also rans” to the tune of at least 10 points.

This season's A-League shows that the table does lie

There is usually a set fee for using a ground which is based on what is needed. Security, bars, food outlets etc etc…..none of that will be required now so the fee structure should be about pitch, dressing rooms, lights and not much more surely?

What happens if there's no more A-League?

I play that too although it has become incredibly complicated compared to the early versions that I enjoyed over a decade ago.

What happens if there's no more A-League?

You need to learn to play fifa online. It is such good fun, lots of skill and excitement, often far more entertaining than the real thing. Each club should have a representative; they have to use the current roster including suspensions and injuries and play out the games that way ….they could possibly be televised as well – now that would be an historic way to wind down the season!

What happens if there's no more A-League?

Right now public health and safety is the main concern and everything else subordinates to that priority.
Professional sport will survive and come back at some point in the future whereas the closing of borders, reduced trade etc will mean job losses, reduced time and a mini, if not a major recession.
We could always look at the effect that the current pandemic will directly have on our population as that is slightly more of a concern than any announcement being made by the various sporting governing bodies.
A league though is far easier than the winter codes. Crown Sydney FC as champions and If there is a suitable date in the calendar at some point when there is less chaos, play a one off game with the second placed team for the toilet bowl……… which seems like a very appropriate trophy right now!

What happens if there's no more A-League?

Yep agree and if that is a fair reflection on ability (rust aside) they will win some and lose some, might be about level of motivation. As a fairly casual fan I’m not too concerned. I pick and choose what I want to watch – I’m not nailed on! Now then, more to the point why is this a discussion point on this page?

How will the A-League weather the coronavirus storm?

I hate to put it in these terms but the western side was very busy. The corporate boxes were all pretty full , the outdoor boxes were busy and the lower terrace where it costs $1300 for a season was also bustling so I imagine the profits were pretty good last night. Traditionally Thursday night is intensely disliked in Sydney in both nrl and a league. Ultimately though I just look at the figure and would be pretty happy for a 21000 plus crowd at the A League for a game at BankWest other than against SFC.

How will the A-League weather the coronavirus storm?

It contained 2 things in Rugby League that bore me to tears and stop me watching.
1. Play the ball. One pass, run up and thump! bulldogs persisted with it all night and although they completed their sets it was dullsville! Eels did throw the ball around more but kept coughing it up.
2. Time to kick, how high can we kick the ball? I find aerial bombardment deadly dull when it isn’t mixed up. I recall Moses doing a grabber kick twice all night and both times it caused mass panic in the Bulldogs defence.
They are very personal views, not a criticism of the game. I consider myself to be a casual fan that goes along a few times a season – I rarely (if ever) watch on tv and that type of play makes me not wish to go back that’s all.

How will the A-League weather the coronavirus storm?

NSW health is not sending out messages anything like that though. All leave is canceled or requires special approval for extended periods and there are extra rules regarding isolation, quarantine etc but that’s about all.

How will the A-League weather the coronavirus storm?

I went to BankWest last night along with over 21000 other fans. There were not swathes of empty seats at all. The upper tier at the southern end was sparsely populated and possibly the upper tier at the northern end too, but the eastern side and lower tiers behind the goals were jam packed solid. I don’t believe people stayed away in any great numbers due to Covid-19 and for a change, I witnessed most (well everybody I saw) wash their hands in the toilet which makes a pleasant change as anecdotally, my random surveys in public places tell me that only about 30-40% of males wash their hands and at times it can make you feel quite queasy. I dare say we will end up following suit with sport around the globe and we will all sit at home playing fifa on line! – welcome to the dystopian future predicted in so many films over the last 50 years.

How will the A-League weather the coronavirus storm?

Thanks…..I’m not a great fan of stats to present an argument as they are always used to argue a certain line and there are so many grey areas and stats provide a clinical response.
As a supporter of WSW, I watch Mo Adam who is getting a bit of game time but not hitting any great heights and I doubt that his statistics will read well but I want to see more of him and for him to be given opportunities to blossom. Likewise young Nick Sullivan who was excellent in the first derby of the season but then disappeared onto the bench as an unused sub, resurfacing in the last few weeks but to a lesser effect.
There is also an amazing difference between given a start in a team that is at the top of the table and playing well vs a struggling side low on confidence. Stats won’t take any of that into account.

Why Victory should persist with Elvis Kamsoba

I thought JA was recovering from heart surgery and was unlikely to be back in the game anytime soon?

Why Victory should persist with Elvis Kamsoba

You mean lies, Damen’s lies and statistics! – amazing how appropriate that old expression is.

Why Victory should persist with Elvis Kamsoba

Love seeing stats on just about anything these days. Are there any for George Blackwood from his days with SFC. They punted him before he blossomed. Adelaide persist, although I sometimes wonder why?
There is an opportunity to develop players in the A League but results and goal scoring are too important in the main so opportunities are limited except for a handful who then move on pretty quick, or at least they try!

Why Victory should persist with Elvis Kamsoba

I didn’t want this discussion to drop into an argument over format and finals etc but I personally dislike the term “minor premiers” in any code. It strikes me that when you play a whole season in any code and you finish top; whether it is by a country mile or on goal difference or even goals scored, there is nothing minor about it.

A finals series is just what the A-League needs right now

I thought it was The Premier’s Plate, not a minor premiership. It provides the first placed team a chance to compete in the AFC champions league as the primary qualifier irrespective of what happens in a series of one off games that take place post regular season.

A finals series is just what the A-League needs right now

Stuart, half of me feels that 10 of the 11 clubs are lacking various pieces of the jigsaw puzzle whilst SFC are complete but don’t really get any better than this which is how I account for their AFC performances and the occasional lapse in the A League. Saturday night at Marvel showcased how far MV have slipped this season, which came on top of a not so good year last year. How I long to see another Delpierre at the back; such a picture of calmness and control and he worked so hard alongside Thomas that it must have inspired allcomers. If SFC really do have a solid backbone it has to show up in a competition that is going to really stretch them and you’d have to say for the most part, this season’s a league isn’t doing that. They go out do their stuff and Lo and behold, another 3 points. I’m not saying they go through the motions, they do way more than that but they do the same thing week in and week out – I believe it is called consistency. I want to see if they can take it up a few notches though.

Substance in the A-League: Who has it and who needs it badly?

I certainly agree on the pre-season rumblings predicting the early demise of RF. I tend to think it was a cheap piece of Pom bashing in many ways as that is still a popular pastime and for whatever reason, has not been declared as racist behaviour in the same way that most other nationalities can claim these days.
As for Friday night; I’m still inclined to think that BR were made to look good by a collective “stinker” of a game from WSW. I was embarrassed to be there watching that performance after 3 pretty good ones. They just didn’t turn up possibly with the exception of Duke and I found it difficult to work out whether BR were being made to look good or whether they were playing well. It was probably a mixture of both as the one thing they did really well was to push forward in numbers and they regularly profited from an overlap down the right side which WSW had no answer for and it caused mayhem in the penalty area. Waz, I’m interested on your take in relation to crowd. I thought the game deserved about 2k more and with a 7-30 pm kick off and all to play for, I thought there would be a better turnout.

Substance in the A-League: Who has it and who needs it badly?