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Love football first and foremost although I keep one eye on most ball sports. Watching live rather than TV is my preference and away games are always more fun even when you lose.

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I am well recorded or on record as saying I take little notice of league tables until a third of the season is completed. However, with the totally lopsided fixture list this season and the way games are scheduled I don’t know what to believe at the moment. I’m almost inclined to say We need to see at least 50% of the games played before any real shape takes place but in the meantime it is quite good fun to look and speculate!

No more excuses - it’s time to talk about the A-League ladder

Excellent point. Suddenly we find a home game on a Saturday followed by Tuesday night. My partner is working night shift – no opportunity to change at such short notice. I usually work until about 7-00 pm and have certain responsibilities that preclude me from taking off early for something considered to be fairly frivolous! There are so many stories like those. Planning for this season has gone out the window. Normally we would book some away trips as well but I wouldn’t dare with the way borders open and close during the pandemic. Travel agents and airlines already have too much of my money not refunded from 2020!

Amazing A-League must bring fans back into stadiums

LH – do you think that there is much greater potential than we realise – we meaning FFA, clubs and fans alike? Is it just that people want to see household names or stars of the world stage? After all going along to see a pre season warm up game for an EPL side is not normally as exciting as watching an under 12/1 game on the local park. Changes galore throughout the game, and very much a training exercise – it really isn’t that interesting even though people are always reminding me about how 100.000 at the MCG all sang along to the song from Carousel one night a few years ago and how fantastic it was. Have we really got so many people living here that love the game but are disconnected from it in a big way?

Amazing A-League must bring fans back into stadiums

Mick,

I’m interested in opinions – highly subjective as they are but always interesting. In my opinion, FFA got the last round of expansion wrong. I’m not interested in how well or bad the teams are doing, just the fact we now have 3 Sydney sides and the same in Victoria. The general level of interest just doesn’t seem to be there and so the crowd numbers are small relative to the size of population. I believe they shy away from the likes of Canberra, Tasmania and country NSW as they are terrified that there just isn’t the interest but I’d argue that there could be more interest in regions as sport has a habit of galvanizing and a whole area could possibly get behind a team.
Newcastle and Gosford both have populations of around 300.000 and it is easy to see why they have been chosen over and above somewhere like Bathurst but what sort of regular crowd do you think somewhere like Bathurst or say Orange could muster? The immediate population is said to be around 44000 these days so a typical estimate might be under 2000 but is there a pent up demand that might surprise us all do you think?

Amazing A-League must bring fans back into stadiums

Thanks for that clarification although based on current attendances they are well below those capacities. Perth was around the 5000 from memory and considering their free scoring football they deserve a wider audience. WSW was a bit over 8000 with parts of the active area roped off but plenty of capacity. Newcastle was also around the 5000 too. Considering what they have been through in the last six months that is hardly a surprise!

Amazing A-League must bring fans back into stadiums

Wouldn’t that just mean you end up with a whole host of small clubs playing on poorer quality fields at local grounds that may or may not really be suitable and in front of smaller crowds? At least that’s how I remember the NSL – maybe with the exception of PG!

Amazing A-League must bring fans back into stadiums

I’m struggling to understand the current crowd situation. There doesn’t appear to be any restrictions in place, at least not in NSW and looking at the Perth crowd there was little in the way of social distancing taking place so it appears likely that there are few if any restrictions in place around the country.
That means people have found other ways to spend their time or at the very least have given up on the A League for the time being. The SFC v MacArthur game drew just over ten thousand and was easily the biggest crowd of the weekend but in other years that would have been considered to be poor. Right now I just put it down to that old curse “may you live in interesting times”.

Amazing A-League must bring fans back into stadiums

Good to hear from you Jb and a cracking story to boot. Johnny Haynes, one of a handful of Fulham legends. I came on football scene mid 60’s, earliest memory was Everton v Sheffield Wednesday 65 cup final. I did go and see Fulham in the 70’s when George Best played alongside Rodney Marsh -what a pair!

The battle for authenticity - real or plastic?

PG might end up with a record number of goals scored and conceded as they certainly look more than capable of both. As long as the ledger is in the black, nobody will really mind I expect.

Hot Glory cash in on rich goalscoring run

And don’t forget Brian Kidd, Nobby Stiles, Pat Crerand and John Aston – all,good players in their day. Man Utd had Johnny Giles at the club some years before and let him go……that had to be an error of judgement surely?

The battle for authenticity - real or plastic?

They did it in subbuteo so why not the real thing?

The battle for authenticity - real or plastic?

Title races are really only exciting when there are multiple teams that can conceivably win it. In the case of the EPL it isn’t a matter of Liverpool not being up there (they’ve only won it once anyway so hardly a pedigree) There is Manchester City and then daylight this season just the same as last season’s run in so hardly exciting? Best one in recent times as far as a close call went was when Man City popped United on the final day of the season with a very late goal. The red ribbons were already on the trophy when they had to make a last minute change.
Relegation and play off battles outstrip title races in terms of excitement by a long way even if the quality isn’t there. The other issue is that we are so used to see RM or Barca , Bayern Munich, PSG, Juventus, Celtic and such like take the title each season that we tend to switch off and it is only the ardent fans who notice the changes after a while.

Dare I say it: European football title races are, well, exciting

I love your passionate arguments and the points are quite valid. Logistically though NSW is the place to go for a hub in this pandemic as there are already 5 teams here. When borders open and close as fast as they have particularly in Qld and WA it brings about so much uncertainty whereas the “Glady’s approach” certainly has helped keep things moving and the number of cases is low compared to population and they isolated them and worked them away. Bear in mind that WA went into a five day lock-down on the report of one case – and nothing more. SA didn’t quite match that feat although my December trip was canceled in the midst of a handful of cases. Still we are all here and can go along and watch if we want – I’ll be at Bankwest on Saturday afternoon for the latest installment. I’m intrigued to see the effect that last week’s win will have on AU as well as wondering just how sluggish WSW might be again this week!

The Roar's A-League expert tips and predictions: Match Week 10

F.I.L – I often watch football with the sound down so that I don’t have to suck up the crass type of comments that you refer to. I wonder if we had a fan poll of the best player to play in the A league to date what the top 10 would look like? I know it would be in danger of being a popularity poll if people vote for their own players but I’d like to think there are enough football lovers that come on here that can get well beyond that type of behaviour. Ninkovic has been with us for quite a few seasons now and been very consistent as well as having some silky skills so I get why they might make the comments but have to consider the names you mentioned plus Broich and Berisha, Fornarolli of course – and they fawn over him whenever he is playing. Interesting idea for a poll though, I wonder if anyone might take up the challenge?

Football fans must give VAR time

AA – I understand the frustration at the layout of the fixtures. My own frustration is that my wife works shift work in a busy hospital and everytime the fixtures change at short notice it makes it difficult to attend if rostered on. When fixtures are first released we book time off around that – we usually travel away as well including Adelaide – in fact I have two refunds still owing for Adelaide trips last year!
However, your gripe about NSW teams not having to travel is a bit misplaced imo. The main difference is that during this pandemic, the borders here have been kept open as much as possible allowing us to go about our business and people to come here with fewer restrictions than everywhere else in the country so naturally it will favour games being played here. However, it will reverse around later in the season and see a glut of games played elsewhere and then as you say – we may see some very different results…….. except for poor Wellington who really are in the worst position. That should be the way things go unless Covid comes back big time and it ends up with teams having to forfeit home ground advantage like the end of last season.
One last point though – with reduction in crowd numbers and a great reluctance shown by fans to attend, atmosphere has been subdued and I’d argue there is very little advantage to a home side except for the fact they haven’t had to board a plane and wear masks for a few hours.

The Roar's A-League expert tips and predictions: Match Week 10

I am willing to give it a chance but with a set of accompanying rules that everyone is aware of or at least can see or get a copy of. I don’t want VAR making decisions or thought to be making decisions. If they capture something worth reviewing, they signal to the referee to go to the monitor and review. No prompting no nothing. Ref reviews the footage – preferably with a limit of just 2 or 3 runs of it and makes a decision based on the principle “was there a clear and obvious error made during the game” if it takes more than a couple of replays -,it isn’t clear and its play on. Let the referee referee the game and let the assistants raise their flags as they should do and if they make a mistake, go back afterwards, don’t keep them down and wait for Santa to arrive before a decision is made.

Football fans must give VAR time

Played off the park in the first 45 minutes and marginally better in the second half but two late goals might have you believe it was a close contest when it was anything but. Commentators kept mentioning “grand final rematch” – it was anything but for the most part; just a procession of chances and half chances for the home side…..a quick glance at the result will be very misleading imo.

Football fans must give VAR time

You’ve lost me on this one. Does this approach give you a claim to be a genuine fan or just a plastic?
Over the years, I have learnt that it serves no purpose to be a “hater” even when you are dealing with your biggest rivals! You can still enjoy watching them lose but don’t waste energy on hating – just love the game!

The battle for authenticity - real or plastic?

If we could try boiling instead of poaching it would still have to be KM! (Sorry, couldn’t resist)

How bad are Melbourne Victory? How good is Jamie Young?

You probably get accused if you pass comment or judgement on the A league and you don’t attend games? I don’t know….personally I find room for anyone who wants to talk football at any level rather than other sports! I don’t see enough South American football. Would love to get to a River Plate vs Boca Juniors game though. Apparently 70% of Argentinians support just the two clubs – that is staggering!

The battle for authenticity - real or plastic?

stadium/ground announcers should be in a sound proof box and they can entertain themselves. Mind you, personally I can’t stand club mascots that wander around waving to everyone and having their photo taken. I know it is meant for children etc but I’m the one that laughs when a little kid kicks and punches the mascot or pulls the tail – its far more entertaining.

The battle for authenticity - real or plastic?

agreed – they really missed out on some decisions that may have made the score look a lot worse…even more reason for MV fans to boo then!

How bad are Melbourne Victory? How good is Jamie Young?

AA – My family is a mixture of West Ham and Chelsea fans. I come from the East End and was taken to Upton Park as a 5-6 year old by a few much older relatives. I have an older sister who dated a Chelsea fanatic and he took me there when I was 9 and it was like being in a different world…I’m talking about late 60’s to early 70’s long before anyone had heard about Russian Oligarchs and riches in oil. I have always been torn between the two teams but one thing we all share is a strong dislike for a part of North London. I can’t begin to tell you how strong that runs in the blood and believe me, I have spilt a fair bit during much darker times!

The battle for authenticity - real or plastic?

Sometimes crowds just boo in frustration – at the final whistle. I have heard it many times over the years…don’t read too much into it. It isn’t a rifle shot. It is a “blunderbuss” affair, just venting the frustration for all to see and hear. We don’t like losing, we don’t think much of the performance, we don’t think the coach is doing a very good job, we didn’t think much of the referee, his assistants were awful and VAR was even worse. We don’t like the current board and we pay good money to come and watch this stuff – Boo!

How bad are Melbourne Victory? How good is Jamie Young?

The last few games I rather thought Kruse was living from his name. He was angry and frustrated at being substituted against WSW (that was how it looked and I sit behind the visitors bench at Bankwest. He just wasn’t making any impact though. He was better on Sunday – made one excellently timed run but I would have been upset at an under 12 player firing in an effort like the scuffed effort that came from the run. When chances are few and far between you just have to take what little is on offer and at least work the keeper!

How bad are Melbourne Victory? How good is Jamie Young?