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Peter Hunt

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Like so many other Australian Cricket fans, I was mortified by the ball tampering scandal in Cape Town in March 2018. It made me question my life-long passion for Cricket and my steadfast support for the national team. And so, combining my passions for cricket, the law and writing, I embarked on a search for `The Spirit of Cricket'; one cricket tragic's attempt to define `the line'. Does Cricket have a distinct spirit? Can we define 'the line'? How are the values Cricket holds dear different from any other sport?

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That’s a great post, Bayman!
You should copy and paste into an article of your own.
I’m think I’ve been convinced that `the new Davey Warner’ is partially redeemed by the maturity he has exhibited from the moment his ban went into effect.
I hope he can keep it up and not `revert to type’.

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Thanks Rowdy. I’m sure you are. I was reminding myself (and anybody else who may have forgotten the detail).
I don’t think either Smith or Bancroft were thrown under the bus by anybody. They both abdicated their free will to say `no!’.
Boof? Perhaps.
That said, I don’t think there is any doubt that the CA investigation demonstrated Warner was the primary instigator. As you’ve pointed out, the penalties demonstrate as much.

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Old! Ha! You got that right!

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I have just reviewed the transcript of what Warner said in his press conference. Here are the first two paragraphs (only):
“First of all I’d like to thank you all for coming this morning. To the fans and the lovers of the game who have supported and inspired me on my journey as a cricketer, I want to sincerely apologise for betraying your trust in me. I have let you down badly. I hope in time I can find a way to repay you for all you’ve given me and possibly earn your respect again.
To my teammates and support staff, I apologise for my actions and I take full responsibility for my part in what happened on day three of the Newlands Test. To Cricket Australia, I apologise for my actions and the effect it has had on our game under your care and control. I want you to know that I fully support your review into the culture of the Australian cricket team. To South African players, administration and fans, I apologise unreservedly for my part in this and I am sorry. I brought the game into disrepute on your soil. South Africa is a fine cricketing nation and deserves better from its guests and deserves better from me
The rest is more of the same. Warner apologised, on my count 7 times for `his actions‘ (or words similar to that). But he never explained what his actions were and proceeded to dodge and deflect media questions about exactly what happened.
Is apologising profusely and often enough? Or does he have to say EXACTLY what he is apologising for?

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Let me clarify that I’ll never forget what Warner (or Smith) did in Cape Town. It was an obscene betrayal. But that doesn’t mean I can’t respect the character they have demonstrated in not just coming back, but also excelling. I think that takes tremendous character.

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Yeah, sorry Haydos, whilst I appreciate the physical fitness and mental application required to score 380, I don’t rate the innings in the same way as the others in the Australian 300 club such as Warner, Bradman, Taylor, Clark, Bradman again, Simpson and Cowper.

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You’re right. Of course, you’re right. But the history of soccer would be poorer without Diego (every aspect of him).

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I think Warner was more than an @rse (as you describe it) before sandpapergate. He apparently hit Joe Root that time before the 2013 Ashes. He behaved like an untamed dog in the stairwell when De Kock baited him. And he was involved in some pretty ugly incidents on the field when confronting opposing players. I genuinely hope his year out of the game has caused him to reflect on what he wants his legacy to be.

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It was very nostalgic. And Greg Chappell gave some good insights into his mental state on the day (although I had heard some of it before in the `Cricket in the 80s’ documentary (which you can find on YouTube if you haven’t seen it before.

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For me, Diego Maradona, is one of the most fascinating sportsman of my lifetime. I’m not suggesting Warner is either blessed by the same divine skill-level as Maradona or cursed by the same level of excess, but there is definitely a place in sport for the flawed genius.
I haven’t given a lot of thought to the batting record. One the one hand, I would prefer Warner to be the Australian record-holder than the current incumbent, who was batting against a bowling attack not much more skilled than the bowlers I faced in the 16As (okay, I’m exaggerating slightly for effect). On the other hand, it grates that Warner went past Bradman and Tubby. I think it would have been nice if Warner joined them on 334.
On the third hand – if I had one – it would have been magical if Warner passed 400 and Lara, who was in town, walked onto the field to shake his hand.
As you can see, I’m all over the place on that issue!

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That’s a great post, Winston! Thanks!
My visceral reaction was to rebel against your comment that we should be proud of Warner. But, on sober reflection, you are right.
Post-Cape Town, his behaviour has been beyond reproach (subject to whether Stokes is telling the truth about what happened at Edgbaston). He even found it within himself to engage in some self-mockery in the face of vicious taunts from the English crowd.
And his horrible Ashes performance is relevant too. Dare I say that a lesser man – with the Cape Town scandal and an abysmal 95 runs in 5 Ashes Test dominating his recent backstory – may have been tempted to chuck it in.
Oh my God! I can scarcely believe that I am talking myself into admiring David Warner’s fortitude!

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Thanks Qwetzen. That was nice of you to take the time to write that. Much appreciated.

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Cam has shown some `character’ in coming back from a dark place too, so he has my respect for that as well. I don’t really rate him, however, as a batsman.

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It’s bound to happen one day! Just like Fox Cricket ran a `Joe the Cameraman’ expose just last week and Channel 7 did a doco on the underarm incident last year (which was excellent, by the way).

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Let’s face it, Davy has `form’ and the ongoing dislike for him in opposition circles is real.
I met an English guy before the 2015 Ashes series – who seemed an otherwise reasonable bloke – and he said he didn’t really care who won the Ashes provided Warner was somehow `seriously injured’. And that’s long before sandpaper-gate!
Whether Warner really sledged Stokes at Edgbaston or whether Stokes is stirring the pot, I guess only the guys on the field know. The truth may be somewhere in the middle (excuse the pun).

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I agree, Marty. As traumatic as the events were at the time, I think it was a positive turning point; including, as it turns out, for the Smith and Warner. Bancroft? Yet to be seen.

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I agree, James, although they may not be at liberty to make any public statement about what really happened. Hopefully, they have been full and frank with Cricket Australia and accepted responsibility to their employer. I fear the Australian public may never be told the full story…other than, perhaps, through a 60 Minutes expose a decade from now when all the key participants have retired.

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Here’s hoping he can continue presenting himself thus. I hope that the adulation which comes with this recent feats does not result in a regression in his behaviour.

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Nicely said Dave. As I have said previously, including in a comment above, I maintain that sitting out one Australian summer was an appropriate penalty. I don’t really care whether other countries were as harsh on ball-tamperers among their ranks or not. I’m actually proud that the Australian cricket community – and Australians generally – reacted spontaneously with, ‘nah, that’s not us; we want to win, but not at the expense of our reputation’.

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Thanks El Loco, I totally agree that the Australian Men’s Team salvaged their position and won back a lot of trust with the appointment of Paine as captain. It was an inspired choice. And some good cricket, played in a good spirit of competition, has also helped.

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Thanks Brainstrust. I have said, all along, that the suspensions were appropriate. Smith and Warner essentially had to sit out one Australian summer.
The suspension handed out to Emily in the WBBL was beyond ridiculous given that she appeared to have made a naive mistake, but at least a large proportion was suspended.
That’s news to me re Tim Zoehrer. Is that common knowledge? I remember reading at the time that there were concerns over him over-appealing, but I accept that may have been propaganda

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I agree Diamond Jackie. Who would have predicted that Warner would be the one to take the suspension on the chin and shut up?

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Thanks Paul. Your comments are, as always, particularly astute. I’ve really struggled with whether I can (or should) enjoy Warner’s run-scoring over the last fortnight given my condemnation of his behaviour, culminating with the travesty in Cape Town. I almost feel guilty for wiling him on to a double century and then a triple.
I think your final line is right. We can admire a man’s skills in a particular field (in this case, run-scoring) whilst reserving our position on his behaviour (in this case, ball tampering).

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Thanks Tlux. I do have considerable sympathy for that sentiment!

There's a simple solution to our no-ball conniptions

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There's a simple solution to our no-ball conniptions