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That’s the problem for South’s. Penrith do seem to bring their best against the Bunnies. 😔

What’s the point? Understanding Souths’ attack, and how it's uniquely designed to take down Panthers

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ANALYSIS: 13 points enough as Souths celebrate Sattler with Golden Point win over Manly - but key Demetriou move backfires

Well put DP. The voice of reason and great analogy re the no ball. Never really thought about that before. Your a wise man. Good luck to your Dragons today.

ANALYSIS: 13 points enough as Souths celebrate Sattler with Golden Point win over Manly - but key Demetriou move backfires

Hey DP. You have always seemed to have a level head and as a neutral I am interest to hear your thoughts on the following. Every one seems to be overlooking the fact that, despite the call on the pass, that Latrell was coming across in cover from the left and tass from the right. Latrell heard the call and slowed and stepped behind and he would in my option likely have tackled Tom. Even if it was not enough to complete the tackle in full it was likely enough to slow down For Tass to complete. In addition Graham was covering Schuster and Johnston covering jake with Cody lurking the back.
There was no guarantee that Tom would have scored, it’s not like he was 5 m in front of every defender and this is not the player of 2021, or got the ball away to support so for me so, for everyone to call it a disallowed try is optimistic. Let us know what us think from that perspective.

ANALYSIS: 13 points enough as Souths celebrate Sattler with Golden Point win over Manly - but key Demetriou move backfires

Saw Satts play in the 67, 68 and 69 GF. Couldn’t manage the threepeat but great memories from 14, 15 and 16 yo. From 1970 as a 17yo other things became more a priority.

When I moved to the GC for the second time in 2005, and whilst I never met John met Scott Sattler a few times. He seemed to be like his dad is described and nice bloke.

Thanks for the Memories “Satts”. RIP and commiserations to all of his Family and friends.

RIP, John Sattler: Albanese leads tributes for Rabbitohs legend, one of rugby league's toughest hombres

I hope “I don’t hold a hose, mate” is not Pongas response to the question “ what were you and Kurt Mann doing in the toilet”

Round 23 team lists Late Mail: Manly trio out for season, Moses early return, late Knights duo stood down, Latrell OK

Walter’s and Piggins – some talent there.

The ones who got away: South Sydney Rabbitohs

Nathan Peats was also a great hooker as is Apisai Koroisau who both made their debuts for Souths. Zane Musgrove also who now plys his trade with the tigers.

The ones who got away: South Sydney Rabbitohs

And the next post you said “I think we’ve said all we can say on this” and yet you are still going on. The next post after agree to disagree was in response to that and assumptions you made to which I diasagreed and so deserved a response. However unlike you I certainly didn’t state that I have said all I can say (I would never presume to speak for you TB that’s why I said I instead of we). Furthermore I didn’t state
1.show me a tackle that uses the arms to drive and I will change my mind only to deny that tackle shows that stating he was slammed
2. Laugh at someone in a post (getting personal as you put it) and then become all indignant when they cop a little sledge back. TB if you think what has transpired is personal then perhaps your skin is not as thick as I perceived.
3. continue to refuse to answer the question I have asked on several occasions being can you push/drive someone with another part of the body other than the shoulder
Now I understand the reason why you won’t answer a simple yes or no question in that if you answer truthfully yes you defeat your own argument and if you answer no well it’s plain to see you are just not willing to admit you are wr….. wr….. wr… not right. So yes you are deflecting.
The 3 post happened cause I thought the you tube clip didn’t go through (2nd post) so I sent a third to explain. I was wrong about that. See it’s not hard to admit when you wrong TB you should try it.
And I am chill TB. I love debating things and certainly enjoy the to and fros of challenging oneself against opposing ideas. But suggesting I am getting frustrated or upset couldn’t be further from the truth. That suggestion by you is a great tactic used to try and get an opponent to justify themselves as to why they are not getting frustrated to put them on the back foot so nice try on that one to- a bit more subtle that deflecting whilst refusing to answer the question about pushing with other than the shoulder.
I know I am not going to change your mind on the tackle – but it has been fun, something to do on a Saturday while waiting to head out to a party.
Its clear you and I have a different interpretation of the word driving, which I think can be achieved with either shoulder, arms, hand, you seem to think you can only drive with the shoulder.
Best of luck TB I’m off to party.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Not trying to prove a similar tackle only him being driven into the ground with the arms, which you required as proof it could be done and which you are now dismissing. Again never said it was similar.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

The Balmain player drove the newton player into the ground stand upright. Also when you drop something you generally let go of it. Lawton has not. Still havent confirmed if you can push or drive something with a body part other than the shoulder. It’s a yes no answer and easy to do.
Do this and it will tell me if you are genuine about discussing this or not

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Perhaps you forgot your question which was to show you a driving tackle with any part of the body other than the shoulder. This tackle shows that. The Balmain player thought the Newtown player was a star picket he tried to drive him so hard into the ground. You stated show me an example an I’ll admit I’m wrong.

Another nice effort at deflection there. I never stated this was a comparable tackle any where so to to start your response with a laugh makes me think I am discussing this issue with GB not TB.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

I tried to put the YouTube link for the one I mentioned above but after submitting it disappeared.. you can view it by searching worst NRL spear tackles. It’s Balmain v Newton

Also just below is 2016 NRL big hits/spear tackles. I note in that clip the tackles that are shockers are the ones useing shoulder to lift and arms to drive the player. The ones where the shoulder was used throughout were great tackles and players were not driven or speared into the ground. Looking forward to your thoughts on these or if you disagree your further points of view.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Spear tackle no shoulder

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Ok Tb. So no admission that an object can be pushed or driven with another part of the body and deflected the question.

So in my 53 years of watching rugby league if you want to compare I do recall a Balmain player placing his arms around the torso of a player as he was bent forward, picked him up and drove him head first into the ground. Worst spear tackle ever and didn’t use his shoulders at all.

As forLawton not having contact when Murray hit the ground I beg to differ. Whilst not actually on the ground the moment this photo was taken he would be 10thsof a second from hitting. You will note that Lawton has his arms around his legs and I won’t even bring up the fact the shoulder looks suspiciously like it’s against Murray’s leg because angles can be deceptive (although the fact he was holding him is clear)

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-greats-divided-over-send-off-for-dangerous-spear-tackle/news-story/f831463ab8bcde49f6242930586788a2

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Actually I think we are miles apart. Polar opposite’s in fact given we are discussing one aspect and one aspect alone and we disagree. So for me there is still much to say.

I continue with this question. Can you state that the only way you can drive an object in a specific direction is with a shoulder. Ie you cannot forcefully push or drive and object in a specific direction with arms.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Hey TB. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The reason why I used the wheelbarrow analogy is that to drive that forward you use your arms and legs not the shoulder. Shoulder is not a necessary component in driving something, in this case a footballer, into the ground. What it takes is lifting the ball carrier into a dangerous position, which Lawton did, and supply added momentum ( supplied by the arms and legs) which was achieved by Lawton holding him and adding his body weight to the ground. Landing on his belly is somewhat irrelevant as it still adds body weight and therefore force which is a component of the driving motion. the consideration of whether he was injured or not or what happens in other tackles is irrelevant as the only thing I was discussing was whether he drove him or not. I am not looking to compare apples and oranges, just this tackle which was horrendous.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Apart from Jaime Lowe in 2007 but you know Facts.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Hey TB. I replied on the match thread but thought I would also discuss here as well. I disagree that Lawton didn’t drive Murray. When looking at the clip above, in my view, you can see Lawton is holding Murray until he losses his grip after hitting the ground.
Lawtons right leg is of the ground and as Murray starts s to head down Lawton brings that right leg back to the ground and it seems to me that the foot flattens and then, in a pushing or driving motion, the foot goes back to the ball of the foot before leaving the ground. Now if I am pushing a wheelbarrow this is the motion my feet make to drive the barrow forward so rightly or wrongly I see what Lawton did as driving.
Landing on his Belly on top of him adding weight to the tackle still means a significant extra level of force. I don’t think there was any malice but it was a shocker and their is no defence for that.

'Which is a sending off and which is sin bin?': Lawton learns fate for dangerous tackle after Hasler questions send-off

Well done TFW. You threw in a line and caught a Westie. 😂 😂 😂

And then there were two: Talking points from NRL preliminary final weekend

Souths flying under the radar- Des would not be happy.

How the Sea Eagles can beat the Rabbitohs

So Manly are favourites in your eyes.

How the Sea Eagles can beat the Rabbitohs

Whilst I think the Panthers and Eagles will win I will be cheering on the underdogs. Carn the Roosters and Eels.

Do or die: Predictions for the NRL semi-finals

So in your world rant equals pointing out the bleeding obvious does it. Given your so even handed in your replies I am definately going to take medical advice from you 😂 😂 😂 😂

NRL Round 25 teams: Mass restings for Rabbitohs and Eels, but Panthers stay at full strength

Haha nice try again this time with the old deflection strategy. Your original post and self proclaimed even handed response was simply full of errors that I was pointing out to you. You can’t comprehend so it seems I will have to do it again. 1. You stated the roosters couldn’t change their ladder position – I pointed out that was not the case with a couple of scenarios. Strike 1.
2. You then suggested the Rabbitohs could potentially have another meltdown in week 2 of the finals. – I pointed out the Roosters had the meltdown with abuse of officials, ref and then JWH pushing a cameraman. Strike 2. Then you stated that the roosters desire for Rabbit Stew would see them kick Canberra to 2022. To do that they would need to loose and as such give Canberra a chance. Strike 3 and out. My post was simply pointing this out to you.
I don’t know how someone can make so many errors in a matter of a few sentences but then you double down and incorrectly assume I have a hatred for the Roosters – this is not the case (can you have 4 strikes) and you can go back and have a look at all my comments to see this. Perhaps you should let your red mist subside before posting again as if you feel you have been even handed in your response please come back to me as I have a nice bridge I would like to sell you.

NRL Round 25 teams: Mass restings for Rabbitohs and Eels, but Panthers stay at full strength

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