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Who wins the John Eales Medal?

As I cast back my mind over the last 12 months of internationals, quite aptly, the phrase “nobody is perfect” comes to mind. That phrase, of course, is synonymous with John Eales and for good reason. This then makes me think of the upcoming John Eales medal award.

the attack coach should not use attacking patterns his players can’t reliably execute so yes that lies at his feet.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

I am talking about england here with Wisemantel and Eng have very good 10’s and quite good 9’s, that isn’t an issue Wisemantel had to wrestle with.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

perhaps Rennie realised after interviewing with AB’s he was no chance this time around or expectations / conditions not right for him at this time

i.e there were some push as well as some pull factors.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

OK how many opportunities per year do you think were blown?

Remember any times when the player was unmarked out wide and the pass didn’t go to them?

Remember poor passes or poor options when the right one meant a good chance of a try?

I am talking about from 2017-2019 when the average number of tries was not that high, not just rwc.

Part of 2019 is the loss of Folau who scored the most tries for the wallabies since the wallabies rely on individual brilliance more than good attacking patterns and deception and multiple threats. In 2019 the plan shifted to Kerevi.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

In this case I disagree.

It is very realistic to believe that the Wallabies will improve after one of the poorest wallaby coaches they have had.

I do agree though that the daggers could come out if results don’t improve quickly and they will ignore facts like the super rugby teams being towards the bottom now that it is round robin (if that turns out to be the case).

Cheika was never given an allowance for how poor the aust super rugby teams were so nor will Rennie be.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

wallabies have had an average attack over the last few years, and been panned for it, look at average number of tries under larkham.

Yet many try scoring opportunities have been created but poor last options, balls dropped , poor passes etc have cruled them.

This year how many times was it noted that Kerevi failed to pass or had a poor offload and a try went begging.

So yes many opportunities blown and few tries scored and the attack is considered mediocre.

Since you are challenging my statements do you think Wisemantel is outstanding or excellent as an attack coach? If so state the reasons why.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

yes

But even better is to be able to have an attack that is deceptive and threatening all game, that challenges the defense all game.

That can be relied on to score tries every 20 mins not just last 20.

If the attack relies on wearing teams down then it won’t work well when the other team is too fit since they won’t wear down.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

wallabies created a lot of try scoring opportunities many many games yet averaged few tries and their attack is panned for it.

On the AB game, did the obstruction create the opportunity if so then it wasn’t a real opportunity.

Eng’s lack of try scoring until late game is consistent against all t1 teams, and sometimes they don’t score even late game against the better defences.

There is nothing to suggest to me that Wisemantel is an outstanding talent, sure he may be serviceable and solid and competent but is he the best that aust can afford and attract?

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

If Matt Taylor looks an excellent prospect on defence I am not sold on Wisemantel as attack coach though.

With England since he took over Eng score a lot of tries against low tier teams which is good.

However against the top teams Eng rely on scoring their tries in the last 10-15 minutes when they have been ground down.

However when the defence is not tired or committed through to the end Eng struggle to break defences down.

Didn’t score many tries against NZ or Boks and Eng’s attack never looked that threatening or deceptive rather they persisted and played percentage rugby in attack.

Not saying Wisemantel is a poor choice but I am saying he is not an outstanding choice.
However he is a good friend of Johnson!

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

Of admitting of making a mistake and overlooking someone who is best suited for the job?

Of analysing someone’s performance objectively?

Of focusing on defence as well as attack?

Or all 3?

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

he does look good Pinetree, however IMO Taylor at intl level and his record with Scotland is even more impressive, I detailed some of it in my post below.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

I had overlooked Matt Taylor since I din’t think he was available.

Scotland defensive record since he has been defence coach in 2017 has been excellent against most countries including NZ and SA.

England have done quite well attacking against Scotland in that time scoring 38 points in 2019, and 61 points in 2017.

Samoa scored 38.

Wales 34 in 2018,USA 30 in 2018, France 32 in 2019

These are the blowouts! 5 scores in the 30’s and 1 score of 61 in 3 years.

SA scored only 26 against them, NZ 22 against them.

It would be a welcome change to have a solid defence again.

Clean slate: Rennie appointment starts a new era for Australian rugby

NB – You state

not so sure about Jake White any more. Poss he may have been out of the coaching loop at the very top end of the game for too long!?

White has been coaching constantly Montpellier, Toyota.

If he has been out of the coahing loop at the very top how does that compare to Rennie who has NEVER coached at the top end of the game, he is totally unrpoven in that regard, at least White has been there done that.

The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?

maddocks is quite slow for a wing, ok and just ok pace for a f/b.

The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?

Jake White is certainly available, from what I read Vern Cotter is, and maybe Schmidt who wants a 6 month break from coaching.

All of these would have been better.

Out of those White was still interested , of course I do not know if the other 2 applied / were interested.

The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?

wallabies have dominated scrums recently

The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?

How is he a better fit than Vern Cotter or Schmidt (if available)

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

that is the best / only good point you have made

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

age level is very different to test level

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

it would look just as poor announcing rennie as coach with Clyne invloved AND then right on it’s heels announce he is going.

Just like Andrew Hore announcing Penney as Tahs coach and right after resigning and going to the blues.

That was very poor form.

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

Simmons no because he isn’t a guaranteed starter.

Rodda is a certain starter and plays 80 mins.

LSL should be the power lock, Simmons is too similar (a lesser version) to Rodda for both to start.

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

Paul D – Quite the converse actually.

In practical terms Rennie should have selected his assistants already, he would know the ones he wants from all the coaches he has worked with and seen in action.

They should be here in Australia ASAP doing the work on the ground , getting things ready until Rennie arrives in June.

No way would I want the current lot staying AND then being replaced in June, what a waste of time and loss of continuity under the new regime.

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

Wisemantle is not available, he is signed up with england and Jones

McKay may be good for a niche role , I would prefer a really good attack coach who is currently at intl level or at least provincial level.

Raiwalui isn’t an australian so I wasn’t including him.

Neither Berne or Grey should be there.

Mick Byrne I would keep if he works well with Rennie.

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

I want to know who the assistant coaches are.

Wallabies cannot succeed without a quality team of coaches, a very good head coach is not enough.

I hope Rennie can choose his own assistants and not have them foisted on him, i.e second rate aust coaches with no track record of success as a coach.

Dave Rennie inks deal to become next Wallabies coach

agree except for aust assistants, the oz coaches just are not good enough.

For a head coach to succeed he needs to appoint quality assistants that he works well with and who fix the technical gaps he is not strong in.

Maybe Laurie Fisher , who is not available, is good enough for a specific forwards role but that would be it.

The Dave Rennie casebook: Can a Kiwi coach the Wallabies again?