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I have no issue with the Rebels being given a lifeline, but so far we have seen nothing from the current directors to show they are capable of doing what is right for anyone except themselves, and yet you talk them up like they are the saviours.

The fact is the DOCA only requires the new consortium (ie the current directors plus daddy) to fund the Rebels for 2 years, and it was only after the DOCA was released they had KM develop a long-term plan. If the directors had been doing their job, they wouldn’t have waited until now, but that’s ok, you keep defending them and reminding us how good they are.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HuzdPhQ-lIwdLOiA4PYz2dBx7TUpR-wb/view

The DOCA starts on page 65.
Part 11 – Within 30 days of the Effective Date:
a) the Investor Group will make available to the Company initial funding
(together with a binding commitment to provide additional funding)
sufficient to allow MRRU to operate in the ordinary course of business
for a period of two years;

Georgina and Geoff keep talking about 5 or 6 years, but the DOCA only requires funding for 2 years. Sounds more like they aree willing to pay 2 years worth of losses to get themselves off the hook rather than a long-term plan for sustainability.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

The Force haven’t lost every one of their contracted front rowers, but there are alot of people here that have compared how they fared when they were without a front row with how the Tahs are now.

The fact is no team can compete without a functioning front row (and there is more to it than just the scrums).

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

How many extra years of experience has Dave Wessels had since he left Aust. Maybe he learnt more not being a head coach in these years.

I heard an ex NRL player talking about their head coaches and he said he was interested but wasn’t willing to put in the 8 years needed as an assistant.

Also interesting that he isn’t being talked about as the Boks coach, just the head of high performance. Very different to being head coach.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

There Geoff, fixed it for you.

It is vitally important the new Rebels consortium clearly articulates a forward strategy for the club. Not some glossy plan that few people read or believe, but communicate plain language, realistic and fully transparent objectives, that are costed, so that everyone can be aligned behind it.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

EVB, if you have been following, you would have noticed that Geoff has gone in boots and all in support of the rebels directors and the DOCA over the past 3 months.

He constantly refers to RA wanting to cut a team despite there being no evidence for this. He overlooks the fact the DOCA is nothing more than a way to get the directors off the hook.

The Rebels directors constantly talk about a 5 year plan, but in the DOCA they only mention 2 years funding. Anything beyond 2 years is marketing. They talk about funding it via PE, but at this stage the consortium is the current directors and Georgina’s dad.

I find it incredulous that the directors talk about sustainability when they haven’t even produced an actual plan besides “trust us”, but now tell us they have engaged KM to produce a plan that is several hundred pages long (it might also be several hundred pages of rubbish, but noone knows because they haven’t made it public)…oh and why weren’t these directors working on this plan before it all blew up, and why is one of the conditions of the DOCA the ATO agreeing not to pursue the directors, and how much does the KM plan cost to implement?

The DOCA is nothing more than an attempt to get the directors off the hook and now after the event they are trying to make it look like they have a real plan.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

If you read the DOCA, it says the new consortium will provide funding for 2 years. It is silent on the 5 year funding.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

It has been suggested if RA were to hand back the license, then it provides an opportunity for the Rebels to sue them. I’m not too sure about how true that is.
It is written into the DOCA prepared by the Rebels directors. The new consortium will underwrite the legal proceedings against RA.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

with the arm of the organisation that is seeking to shrink Australia’s professional footprint?
It is wholly ironic that at the same time as there are numerous people happy to see the Rebels punted from Super Rugby
This is getting pretty boring. The reason the rebels are close to being cut isn’t because people in RA want to shrink the footprint, but because the rebels directors have accumulated a $22m debt that they are going to sue RA for while at the same time they get off scot free…oh and they (and you) expect RA should hand them back the licence while they only guarantee 2 years funding.

The Wrap: Is Australian rugby about to throw a whole heap of valuable coaching IP out the window?

Condescending – nah just a dose of reality, but the fact you and many others here think teams can still perform while their engine room is full of amateurs is funny.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

It appears you don’t really understand how rugby works Ian. Playing a 3rd or 4th string front row means the other forwards need to cover for them, meaning they can’t do their job properly. It is not just the scrums, it is defence and attack where the big difference is made as far as the work of the front row is concerned. Playing a 3rd or 4th string front row means the game is lost before it starts. It happened to the Force last year and the beginnning of this year.

To say no more excuses re the front row shows you have very little understanding of how it all works and should switch off and watch another sport.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

I reckon it is a combination of training, S&C, and bad luck.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

it is amazing how many experts on here just don’t understand this.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

It is unbelievable how many people think you can just pull people from Shute Shield and expect they will fit in seemlessly. The odd one might, but they have had to use so many that it is impossible to compete.

This then compounds onto the other players as they need to cover for the new players coming in.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

Difficult to understand how the Waratahs can stoop to such a low point at the bottom of the table.

Been following rugby much? Here’s a start – all their contracted front rowers aer injured and they are relying on Shute Shield players. It wouldn’t matter who the coach was, no team can deal with this.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

The Tahs haven’t spent millions on league players.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

tell us you know sfa about rugby without saying it.

They are playing with an amatuer front row because every one of their contracted players are injured. Do you seriously think players can be plucked from club rugby and compete against professionals?

Without a front row, no team can compete.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

It’s been a decade and a half since the Wallabies have been selected on performance

What absolute rubbish. There will always be a call here or there that individuals disagree with but mostly the Wallabies squad has been picked from the best players.

Tahs confirm wooden spoon with Moana Pasifika loss, as Crusaders surprise Blues to keep finals alive

I disagree with the “look at how poorly Noah has been treated” line. In the last few years he was not good enough, and even now it is only his goal kicking which is keeping him in the running.

He was given a good go but wasn’t working. Do you just keep persisting or look elsewhere?

As for Carter, he was thrown in behind a beaten pack. Never going to end well.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

Ah Keggy. You musn’t be aware of the rule that no matter how badly the Tahs go, the players are always in contention for Wallaby spots … look how well they went in the Shute Shield!

Nah, you’re not whinging at all. 😂 😂 …anyway, lets just hope the Reds don’t get sent packing in the first week of the finals otherwise you’ll be judging players on their HC form.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

Bitter much?

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

Have a winge about tahs making the WBs squad… and then list some tthat you think should be included. Gold.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

Wah wah wah. Ryan will be in the squad so keep your knickers on.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

The brumbies didn’t play the waratahs on the weekend.

'His decision making is exceptional': Lynagh masterclass, Ryan hat-trick as future Wallabies help Reds stomp Force

How do you get that from this article? How dare the coach treat his players like humans.

Cron delivers withering one-liner after Force flop, ducks Beale question as Reds run riot

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