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The paine pr club is more tiresome . I’m happy to remind you all of facts that have been reiterated on air during uk ashes by several legends of the game let alone this series here . It’s plenty of others in media , former cricketers and social media comments that back me up. Remember I’m talking Captaincy not keeping or batting although his keeping worries me this series as it turned out to be crucial at scg

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

You can second that again . If you don’t acknowledge paines key mistakes tactically on field and with drs in uk ashes or mistakes at adelaide , mcg and scg then your not seeing straight . It’s multiple tests on uk and aus this series . I’m forgiving him for the first series lost in india last time round in 19 20 but not the decisions this time round

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Paines batting has been good at times with luck I might add this series but he’s on home soil and india had replaced it’s bowling attack .. the key is that his captaincy on field is poor

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

He’s stuffed up tactically and with drs in three tests in the ashes uk let alone the win at trent bridge and machester . He’s made mistakes tactically and with drs let alone keeping at multiple tests this series

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

He’s made many errors over many tests since the first ashes test at lords from what I’ve seen. Endless tactical errors and drs calls in ashes uk and many errors with fields and tactics this series . He may be the first captain to lose and then on top draw two series in a row in Australia . Before paine we had never lost a series to india in Australia

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Paul that’s ridiculous he has had some terrible tactics , fields , drs not mention alot of drops this whole series and key one being being pant dropped in Sydney . Off field swore towards umpire and also lost it with Ashwin . His time has come surely .

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Paine has to go terrible on field decision maker and strategy see post below here , plenty of evidence since ashes first test

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Omg . What rubbish . Paine has a laundry list of poor decisions as captain on field not to mention dropping pant two hours plus before his wicket critical . In Adelaide we lost the first innings if he actually took kohli’s drs out on 16 we gain 100 runs back . Hazel and cummins took 9 wickets in a stunning bowling session is all . We effectively lost first innings at mcg and adelaide , lost mcg and then paines shambles Captaincy at scg not setting slips fields three times cost us three catches with fielders on boundaries . Laundry list on England was huge bowling first at oval , keeping lyon on fifth day lords let england get away from us in morning then we very nearly got bowled out but for labs . The 25 drs howlers there. Headingly drs howler was down leg means we lose the key challenge for plumb and a series win 3 1. Thank God he had smith making epic centuries and saving the match at headingly . First innings there as captain paine ran down pitch and smashed it when five wickets down to get out when we needed him to hang in there . Thank goodness smith got runs to get us two wins in england . Paines Captaincy bolstered by five soft test wins last summer batting first against poor opp on home soil .

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Agree on AB what a huge effort to hold up the team at times and usher australia in to irs best era since bradman. Border is underated I think

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Thought clarke and ponting mediocre captains . Great bats tho . Bit like paine has been a great wicketkeeper but poor captain . Can’t let india won and draw twice on aus soil and not get the full ashes win we deserved but for his errors

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Pointing was a poor captain lost three ashes series I think and on home soil . Also effected his batting . Smiths batting got better as captain . Smith all the way he’s done his time and will be a better captain

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Being kind to paine . His record is about to dip in to the 40s percent win moreover five of the softest test wins ever last summer batting first against pakistan on roads . As you know smiths record haul of runs in uk gave him another two test wins with cummins and hazel at trent bridge and machester where smith was on fire . Bring back smith as captain . Paine has to go after this series . Losing two series to india after never losing a series in aus is unacceptable . Even if we won at gabba it’s not good enough to many errors from paine test after test infield

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

More than a few want smith or someone else in to better the team going forward Geoff especially via better tactics field settings and drs . I agree there’s a difference between the man , the captain and the keeper tho

Give Tim Paine a break – he's earned it!

Fact is though Matt we should have won that series In england but for paines calls at headingly and but for smith would have lost it . Paine had seven easy tests two against sri lanka on home soil , three dead certs against pakistan on home soil batting first and two against nz who had decimated bowling without boult and ferguson . Smith for me had a poorer team as captain as in particular cummins was only back from injury in 2017 and was amazing in England alongside hazelwood

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

Geoff I think ironically we would have definitely won if paine held on to the straight forward catch of pant early on his innings it would have given as much more time at the rest of them as from memory he was out there for another few hours

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

Paine had australia’s strongest squad in uk in 10 plus years for me . At lords if not for smith with bat and cummins with ball we lose the series ,for me paine was a liability captaining there Geoff , granted he may have been a good man manager but smith and cummins manage themselves. Smith pleaded with paine not to take that headingly drs down leg at headingly and paine took it and series drawn instead of won , therre are critical moments and smith made right call there and 3 1 straight away if he captained and a series would have been won . If little doubt under smith captaincy we could have won scg as he’s more agreessive

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

Good point I like the outcome smith got there ,hidden in those stats for paine is that the result shoukd have been a 3 1 win if not for his poor captaincy tactics and decisions or worse we could have lost the series with his poor bowler and field tactics at lords on the fifth day morning were he kept lyon on getting spanked and labs came out to save us with bat

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

Scott your a bit late on this one , I nearly wrote an article on how it works with starc . Average of 38 at test level at scg he goes well at adelaide dn , gabba and perth . The trick was to play pattinson mcg av of 16 at test level . Starc should have been rotated to play at adelaide and Brisbane for the most part . This series is a bit of a repeat on the 2019 series so far and we didn’t learn to rotate at mcg and the flatter scg pitch yet again . It’s not rocket science

Mitchell Starc should be dropped for Brisbane

Australia is a better side now for sure with cummins and hazelwood on fire and smith had to take a poor side to England during his tenure

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

Hopefully we can also agree to move on from smiths.negkigenfe after he did 12 months as well and pick the best captain on merit , Steve has a superior win rate and paine had five soft games last summer and some howlers as we know in ashes and arguably cost us at Sydney alongside poor selection so there’s a case to say on merit he shouldnt be captain . When players screw up it can be forgiven if they get a fine and or do the time . I’m always after the win for australia that is all

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-11/india-gavaskar-says-days-numbered-australia-captain-tim-paine/13050106

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

I’ve always said he’s a decent bloke and I’m quite forgiving of outbursts or negligence with paine and smith considering the sanction smith was given was huge . With paine he will play gabba and Australia will win but I do think it would be a great test for him to go out on . There’s also the notion that we need to build for the ashes and give carey and inglis a go as we saw a few keeping howlers in the test as well which were very costly . Gabba should go well the bowling quartet usually smashes it there

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

Or in the ashes I might add he bungled headingly oval and lords with strategy howlers there and had a soft summer against weak opp last year

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves

You’ve got to admit though something is up with drs and timmy he got 15 plus drs decisions wrong in ashes and then several again this series and they count big time like headingly loss due to a terrible leg side waste of a drs and kohli at adelaide adding 100 in a partnership

Tim Paine's sledging backfires after horror day with the gloves